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17 Sep 2014

So I put together a theoretical 14 string guitar, well, actually, just two stacked 7 string necks. They are both in standard tuning, and the 7th string is added at the high-note-end instead of the typical 7 string guitar's low B. I did this so you can see the repeating pattern of the modes, if the guitar just continued for one more string. There are 7 modes, therefore, you need 7 strings, one to start the top of each mode.

I.e. From top to bottom, the strings are EADGBE ADGBEA

Being able to recognize a mode by the pattern is sometimes helpful, especially when you are trying to determine the key of a song quickly, by simply hitting a few notes in scale order - you'll be able to recognize the pattern.

Pretty interesting actually.

Viewing the image below:
If you start the pattern on the first string, you will play the Mixolydian scale pattern, which can be identified by the distance between frets for the the 3 strings. In the case of the 3nps myxolydian scale, one fret between each note for all 3 strings. Easiest of the patterns to recognize.

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If you start the pattern on the second string, you will play the Ionian scale pattern, likewise identified via 3 strings worth of pattern.

Note that the distance between the E string and the A string, tonally is a 4th, which makes sense, that starting on the A string of the first neck would equate to the beginning of the the ionian pattern, 4 tonal notes away from the Mixolydian pattern.

1. Mixolydian
2. Aeolian
3. Locrian
4. Ionian

I labeled the starting points of all of the modes, had this neck been extended like I did.

If you view each pattern as 9 dots, 3 dots per string, you can visually see what the mode looks like.

For instance, Ionian and Mixyolydian compared look like this

    Ionian        |      Myxolydian
X......X......X    |    X......X......X
X......X......X    |    X......X......X
X......X...X       |    X......X......X

Phrygian Looks Like this


And if you travel from one neck to the next, note that Dorian looks like this (opposite pattern of Lydian)


Naturally, looking down at your neck, you'll have to some visual translation / reversing to do, but the patterns are consistent, which means if you practice visualing the patterns, then at any given point, if you recognize a "pattern top" (usually only takes 2 strings), you know what pattern is sittting on top of it. Good for pattern recogniztion when you're on stage and knowing notes just doesn't happen quick enough.

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8 Sep 2014
Just watched this video - naturally, they make everything look easier than it really is, (you know, cutting out all the swearing and people telling them to stop making noise in public smile.gif, but I love the iPad interface, and think this is where recording is going so I think you should start thinking about this in terms of gearing up for it.

2 Apr 2014
By our fun loving legend, Paul Gilbert
2 Apr 2014
oh dang... I hate it when naturally talented people have the talent I want, but know I can never have... taunt it on the tube! doh! Still pretty impressive to watch though - if you thought the dog video was cool, here's a smug little child that tells you what note is played....

Kid demonstrates perfect pitch: YouTube http://buff.ly/1dO3Vdy

and the wiki on absolute (perfect) pitch
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