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Bogdan Radovic
GMC Admin & Bass Instructor
28 years old
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Belgrade, Serbia
Born Jan-7-1986
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Music,bass guitar,composing,tennis
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27 Oct 2014
Hey everyone!

I thought it might be cool to have a thread which features links and info on how to track and date guitar serial numbers for different brands. I think it can be fun to know a little bit more about our instruments and try to dig up some history if possible.

As I have never did this myself before, please help me compose a useful resource for everyone to use as a reference when they need to get more details on their guitars based on the serial number.

Disclaimer: listed resources represent what I've found online. The accuracy of data found there is not guaranteed, except for Fender which I've had chance testing with one of my basses.

Let's add info for other brands, please do so by posting in this thread :
[Brand] - [Link to information about serial numbers]


Also, it would be cool to hear what you've found about your guitars by tracking the serial number and which of the listed methods for tracking serials are valid.

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FENDER

U.S. made Fender serial number dating charts

Mexican Made Fender serial number dating charts

GIBSON

Vintage Gibson serial numbers guide

Modern Gibson serial numbers guide (1975-Present)

YAMAHA

Yamaha guitar and bass serial number dater

EPIPHONE

Epiphone serial numbers dating guide

GRETSCH

Gretsch serial numbers dating information

ESP

ESP serial numbers chart

IBANEZ

Ibanez serial numbers dating
Ibanez serial numbers - how to read

CHARVEL

Identifying Charvel models from Japan

G&L

G&L Guitars and Basses serial numbers
G&L models chart

PARKER

Parker serial number dating

OTHER

General serial numbers quick reference overview for many different brands

Dating instruments using pots and other parts
Speaker codes and dating
Pot code dater/finder
16 Oct 2014
First I must admit that I have never bought a used guitar in my life.

Thinking about it, there were several reasons to it ranging from - who knows what I'll be getting to crazy ones like : guitar needs to be new so I can channel my musical energy into it laugh.gif

I have been told million times that buying used instruments is a good idea so I wanted to check with others what is the general consensus on it, do you prefer new or used and why? For example, I would hear an argument that guitar needs to be "played in". Is this a myth or there is some truth to it? Also that guitar sounds better as it ages, is this one true? Never really put much thought or research into it.
9 Oct 2014
I was reading another topic here in the forum and I was wondering, how many products (music gear related) are nowadays outsourced and made in other countries?

Does this still matter as much as it did in the past or the quality has increased over time.

Obviously countries like China has taken the lead role in manufacturing products the world consumes.
How much is there difference really between USA, Mexico, Indonesia, China and Japan made guitars in terms of sound?

I haven't been really following this, for example are Marshall amps still made in England?
Does it put you off when you see where the guitar was made if its foreign factory?
8 Oct 2014
I often find myself, when listening to music, to be isolating different instruments in the mix. Basically, I would shift my "ear focus" and listen to what the bass guitar is playing exactly, than rhythm guitar, fills guitar, drums etc. Thinking about it now, it feels really cool to be able to do it. Basically it is like you increase the "resolution" and zoom in on just specifics which make up the whole song. On the other end, it can become a curse as well if you start doing it unintentionally. This can also be done when attending live gigs and concerts, it is even somewhat easier to do depending how good the sound is.

I was wondering if anyone has been doing this?

Guess it would be something only musicians can effectively do when listening to music. It is our super power and curse.
I'm writing this as it opens up one important subject related to practicing and learning how to play - LISTENING.

When I try the described "focus thing", it always hits me in the head how much I'm not usually listening actually, when listening to the music/backing track etc.

It can be a great drill and you can do it like this :

1. Turn on the song or backing track
2. Listen to only the bass guitar to the point that you can hear the individual notes and what is going on
3. Shift your focus to drums and focus when kick and snare drums are playing, than shift focus on hi hat and try to see what notes values/rhythm is played there
4. Listen to the guitar and try to figure out different layers of guitars (if they are present in the mix)

Why would you do this and how does it benefit? When we can't play well against the backing track, we tend to not on purpose, not listen fully. It can be hard to focus on listening and your playing, but that is the only way to really get to know the backing and be able to play nicely and in timing over it (if you are having issues like keeping time and rhythm over the backing track). This is especially important when playing live with other people as there will be no fixed tempo you can just lock in with your foot and be alright. Tempo will shift and vary slightly and organically by each player in the band and in order to play as a "group", each musician needs to listen and anticipate how others will play the song. Over time, by practicing listening you'll start doing this automatically. When playing a backing track, you'll pick up some clues to the rhythm/timing be it hi hat, drums as a whole, just the kick drum or rhythm guitar. This will open up space to focus more on your playing as you'll be at the same time actively listening to your rhythm/tempo guide, even if you don't push yourself.

Try isolating lines a bit and you'll see your ear opening up. The same principle is used later on when trying to learn songs from the recordings by ear. Only difference is that this time you are also trying to figure out which notes exactly are being played.
For start, it is perfectly fine to just focus on "hearing the individual notes" and what is going on with each instrument.
3 Sep 2014
I often used Youtube as a fast way of listening to a certain song but lately the quality has been dropping considerably. Ever since the songs detection mechanisms have been added by Youtube, people have become desperate and used pitch shifting of the music to get around it. This can really be annoying and I think there should be a way to filter out "random users" who upload music they don't own from official channels. Have you also noticed this? Last time I was searching for a song, I had real trouble finding the one which is not pitch shifted. Worst thing is that I bet a lot of listeners don't even know they are listening to a pitched shifted version of the song.

Spotify and Deezer are excellent services for listening to music but it is really interesting how Youtube as a video platform naturally took the first position as being also "audio listening" platform as well.

Do you think the YT platform will become more strict in the future?
...or the beautify of it is in the certain "chaos"? smile.gif
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MonkeyDAthos
Happy B' Bogdan wish the best for this day \m/
7 Jan 2011 - 1:47
Bjaron
hehe no problem :) then i hope you will have a nice party and much gifts.
8 Jan 2010 - 1:22
Bjaron
Happy Birthday Bogdan.
Greetings Bjaron
7 Jan 2010 - 23:30
Dexxter
Cool Bogdan! Looking forward to see/hear what you come up with, if you do :)
1 Aug 2009 - 13:27
Dexxter
Hi Bogdan, thanks for the add! :) Any chance of some Heavy or Thrash Metal bass lessons? ;) Even if that's not your style really, am I right? :)
31 Jul 2009 - 20:31

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