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Setting An Input Recording Level, recording levels - hot and too hot
Saoirse O'Shea
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I've never used the L2 Nemanja but from what I've been told about it it is good - well all Waves stuff is generally good.
A large pro studio may have AD/DA that is better then the L2 however but the L2 is as good as Apogee and RME from what I've heard and it's going to be a sound that you're used to. It's brick wall limiting is v good as well and has look ahead. Personally I don't think it would hurt to have it as a back up to whatever the studio has but I would leave the limiting until the Mastering stage when everything is summed and set the gain at the console for the recording and mixing as you're suggesting.
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Nemanja Filipovi...
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thanks....it studio they have L2 hardware in rack...so....I will wait to the masteroig process..thanks again

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I think that you send your recordings on mastering without anything on the master bus, but Tony can confirm that..

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Nemanja Filipovi...
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QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Feb 18 2008, 12:52 AM) *
I think that you send your recordings on mastering without anything on the master bus, but Tony can confirm that..

yeah...was interested in the subject a little more so I went to my producer...he sad if you do not plan to take your songs on profesional mastering in big studio you shoud put some limiter...but the again it is important wich one...L2(software,in rack is diferent story)gives to much color to the song...and the better solution woud be Timeworks or LA2A..and if you deside to master in big studio limiter is not a good solution...

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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Oct 13 2007, 01:25 AM) *
Great advice Tony - you can always normalize, but you can never undo digital clipping.

Sometimes clipping can be a good effect and several bands have used clipping to actually add to the song. An example is Territorial Pissings by Nirvana. The vocals clip but that is the idea of the song and what they were going for.

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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 18 2008, 06:06 PM) *
Sometimes clipping can be a good effect and several bands have used clipping to actually add to the song. An example is Territorial Pissings by Nirvana. The vocals clip but that is the idea of the song and what they were going for.

off course...whole Stadium Arcadium(RHCP) is cliping,Califonications to...SOAD..and manny more...but they have the comfor...and limiters and maximizers do not just make your volume up and not cliping...they have there own color...that is why hardvare limiters cost 3000$ and even more....Tony?

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Saoirse O'Shea
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QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Feb 18 2008, 12:52 AM) *
I think that you send your recordings on mastering without anything on the master bus, but Tony can confirm that..


Generally yes spot on Ivan though with stems being used more and more and with the rise of the home studio it seems that things are changing on this. The mastering engineers I know aren't happy to be sent stems that have been 'premastered' though. Guess time will tell as to how much we all move to stemming.

Also all limiters etc will have their own 'sound', or 'voice' or 'colour' etc, it's one reason why a big commercial studio will have potentially a lot of outboard so that they can pick and choose which sounds best for a particular track. Most producers though have their own favourites for particular genres.

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Nemanja Filipovi...
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thanks Tony....buy the way...what is the best hardware limiter in your opinion

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Saoirse O'Shea
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I don't master v often Nemanja - much prefer to send stuff to a mastering studio. However when I've done it I've had good experiences with Chandler. That probably means I'm a fan both of analogue and maybe a more European as opposed to US type of 'voice' smile.gif .

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Nemanja Filipovi...
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thanks Tony...always helpfull...

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