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Tolek Being Mentored By Muris, from zero to hero :D
Tolek
Mar 1 2009, 02:38 PM
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Here´s a new take of the Luke lesson, this time with a much better tone. smile.gif




By the way, I´m currently listening to "Drunk Funk" and I fell in love with that masterpiece. biggrin.gif Due to this, I added to the "My Goals" list: play jazz. smile.gif I love jazz and tried it once and learnt chords, scales, arpeggios, some rules,... . Could you give me some advice how to develop in that fantastic style, please?

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QUOTE (Tolek @ Mar 1 2009, 02:38 PM) *
Here´s a new take of the Luke lesson, this time with a much better tone. smile.gif




By the way, I´m currently listening to "Drunk Funk" and I fell in love with that masterpiece. biggrin.gif Due to this, I added to the "My Goals" list: play jazz. smile.gif I love jazz and tried it once and learnt chords, scales, arpeggios, some rules,... . Could you give me some advice how to develop in that fantastic style, please?

VERY NICE TOLEK!!! smile.gif smile.gif

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Mar 1 2009, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Mar 1 2009, 03:05 PM) *
VERY NICE TOLEK!!! smile.gif smile.gif

Thank you, Muris... eeeh, Monte! biggrin.gif

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Muris Varajic
Mar 1 2009, 04:57 PM
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It was much better Tolek,
tone and also timing!! smile.gif

There are small issues after tapping notes
but you'll get it done after more practicing,
those timings are bit tricky indeed,
you could try to pay more attention to GP file
to get those timings nicely, just an idea.

Now, one thing I would like to point at is vibrato,
you're holding your hand way too much in a "classical" shape
so you don't have good and solid stand for powerful vibrato,
how about trying to wrap your thumb more around the neck? smile.gif

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Tolek
Mar 1 2009, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Mar 1 2009, 04:57 PM) *
It was much better Tolek,
tone and also timing!! smile.gif

That´s what I was working on. smile.gif

QUOTE
There are small issues after tapping notes
but you'll get it done after more practicing,
those timings are bit tricky indeed,
you could try to pay more attention to GP file
to get those timings nicely, just an idea.

Ok, good idea. I´ll try that and record another take then.

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Now, one thing I would like to point at is vibrato,
you're holding your hand way too much in a "classical" shape
so you don't have good and solid stand for powerful vibrato,
how about trying to wrap your thumb more around the neck? smile.gif

I just tried out that new position and it feels very uncomfortable and strange. However, I´ll try to get used to that to get a better vibrato as you said. smile.gif


What about that jazz thing? biggrin.gif

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Muris Varajic
Mar 2 2009, 02:37 AM
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I know it's probably uncomfortable atm since you've
been doing it in "classical" way for a long time.
But it'll work fine for you, do some practicing and playing
like that until you get used to it, shouldn't take long. smile.gif

As for Jazz, we might try diving there right now
bit imo it'd be wise to stay a little bit longer on diatonic stuff,
once we get that nicely we can start working on Jazz,
after all, Jazz isn't just a style, it's a final step. smile.gif

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Tolek
Mar 2 2009, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Mar 2 2009, 02:37 AM) *
I know it's probably uncomfortable atm since you've
been doing it in "classical" way for a long time.
But it'll work fine for you, do some practicing and playing
like that until you get used to it, shouldn't take long. smile.gif

Sure, that´s normal. smile.gif I never knew that it´s better to grab the neck more in order to get a better vibrato. I tried it out and yes, I can hear a difference. smile.gif

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As for Jazz, we might try diving there right now
bit imo it'd be wise to stay a little bit longer on diatonic stuff,
once we get that nicely we can start working on Jazz,
after all, Jazz isn't just a style, it's a final step. smile.gif

Oh, sure. I just remembered that you explained me that in Igalo. Let´s continue with diatonic stuff! smile.gif

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Muris Varajic
Mar 2 2009, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE (Tolek @ Mar 2 2009, 03:13 PM) *
Sure, that´s normal. smile.gif I never knew that it´s better to grab the neck more in order to get a better vibrato. I tried it out and yes, I can hear a difference. smile.gif


Sounds great, looking forward to takes! smile.gif

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Tolek
Mar 8 2009, 03:54 PM
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Hi,
here are two weak takes at the two lessons.

Knopfler


Luke


Cheers. smile.gif

Tolek

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Muris Varajic
Mar 8 2009, 04:06 PM
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Hell yeah, Luke is sounding a WAY better,
vibrato is growing nicely and you nailed that tricky
timing part after tapping almost 100%, which isn't easy! smile.gif

And sound for Knopfler was very cool imo, no need to worry about it at all.
There was some problems with timing, perhaps you need
few more listens to my take to "remember" how it should sound.
Also try not to apply much power in picking when playing
those slower licks, whole Idea with Mark is small or none drive
with lots of Dynamics.
Can I ask for one more take but with just a little bit slower backing,
like you did with Luke?

And for a home work, take Luke backing original tempo
and do some solo over it, use any kind of sound you want
and compose us a nice melodic solo with sweet lick.
How about that? smile.gif

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Tolek
Mar 8 2009, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Mar 8 2009, 04:06 PM) *
Hell yeah, Luke is sounding a WAY better,
vibrato is growing nicely and you nailed that tricky
timing part after tapping almost 100%, which isn't easy! smile.gif

Really? laugh.gif A few parts were sloppy, though... wink.gif

QUOTE
And sound for Knopfler was very cool imo, no need to worry about it at all.
There was some problems with timing, perhaps you need
few more listens to my take to "remember" how it should sound.
Also try not to apply much power in picking when playing
those slower licks, whole Idea with Mark is small or none drive
with lots of Dynamics.
Can I ask for one more take but with just a little bit slower backing,
like you did with Luke?

Ok, I´ll do that. smile.gif

QUOTE
And for a home work, take Luke backing original tempo
and do some solo over it, use any kind of sound you want
and compose us a nice melodic solo with sweet lick.
How about that? smile.gif

Sure, sounds great. I´m looking forward to it! smile.gif

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Muris Varajic
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QUOTE (Tolek @ Mar 8 2009, 04:33 PM) *
Really? laugh.gif A few parts were sloppy, though... wink.gif


I was talking about vibrato and after tapping part only,
I know some spots were bit sloppy but you'll fix that anyhow. wink.gif

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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Mar 8 2009, 04:35 PM) *
I was talking about vibrato and after tapping part only,
I know some spots were bit sloppy but you'll fix that anyhow. wink.gif

Sure. smile.gif

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Finally, I had a liitle bit of time and the power to record something. Here´s my own solo over the Luke BT.



The ending was not correct in rhythm.

Cheers! smile.gif

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Muris Varajic
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QUOTE (Tolek @ Mar 16 2009, 04:14 PM) *
Finally, I had a liitle bit of time and the power to record something. Here´s my own solo over the Luke BT.



The ending was not correct in rhythm.

Cheers! smile.gif


That was nice jamming Tolek, well done! smile.gif

There were some tapping licks and legato one near the beginning
that didn't come out clean enough tho,
so I'm asking for another take when you get some free time
but try to keep it clean, you don't have to shred at all
but go for clean phrases with lots of melody,
think of vibrato as well which is getting better btw. wink.gif

And for Knopfler lesson, we might try another take
with better timing, it was kind a off on slower parts so you
missed the groove a bit.
You did learned notes nicely and now it's all about
your reproduction of the piece. smile.gif

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Tolek
Mar 28 2009, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Mar 25 2009, 01:00 PM) *
That was nice jamming Tolek, well done! smile.gif

There were some tapping licks and legato one near the beginning
that didn't come out clean enough tho,
so I'm asking for another take when you get some free time
but try to keep it clean, you don't have to shred at all
but go for clean phrases with lots of melody,
think of vibrato as well which is getting better btw. wink.gif

And for Knopfler lesson, we might try another take
with better timing, it was kind a off on slower parts so you
missed the groove a bit.
You did learned notes nicely and now it's all about
your reproduction of the piece. smile.gif

Ok. smile.gif After Tuesday, I´ll have a lot of free time because holidays begin.

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Muris Varajic
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QUOTE (Tolek @ Mar 28 2009, 02:10 PM) *
Ok. smile.gif After Tuesday, I´ll have a lot of free time because holidays begin.


Ok then, looking forward to it. smile.gif

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Finally, here is the newest Knopfler take. This time without video (sorry sad.gif ) because my father hasn´t got a video editor. When I´ll be back home, I´ll try to do a video. smile.gif This take is slower than the original (3/4 of it). Some licks aren´t clean yet.

Attached File  Knopfler.mp3 ( 963.26K ) Number of downloads: 12



The new Luke solo is going to come soon, I think. smile.gif


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Timing was much better this time Tolek, well done!
Still, you slowed it too much so you could try something
just a bit faster, we lost the groove somehow. biggrin.gif

Looking forward to new Luke take! smile.gif

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Apr 6 2009, 11:41 AM
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Here´s the faster version of the Knopfler lesson. Still some troubles with the fast pentatonic run. smile.gif

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