Maharzan's Mtp Thread |
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Dec 16 2009, 01:12 AM |
Thanks Emir, will look at the lesson.
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Dec 16 2009, 02:58 AM |
If you play 1, 3, 5, 7 position in the chord separately, its an arpeggio!!!!......... Did I get that right? yes, it's a maj7 arpeggio. When you stack 3rd on top of 3rd. If you do that with major scale you will get 1, 3, 5, 7 If you have maj3rd and normal(maj)7th then you call this maj7 In order to call something dominant, you need both maj3rd and b7th Phrygian dominant is the same as phrigyan but with maj3rd respectively. This one comes from different mode family called harmonic minor scale. that scale is the root scale (like ionian in normal major scale modes) and you count modes from there. Phrigyan dominant is the 5th mode of harmonic minor scale. This is the list that can help you for now: Ionian - major mode (because has maj3rd) Dorian - minor mode (because has min3rd) Phrygian - minor mode Lydian - major mode Mixolydian - major mode Aeolian - minor mode Locrian - minor mode (exception) The last one is just a passing one (tends to resolve somewhere), you will never play that over any other chord apart from m7b5. --------------------------------------------- Now other mode families Their names are as follows: (but you might find other names as well) HARMONIC MINOR SCALE (this is a must in neoclassical style) 1) Aeolian #7 (Harmonic Minor) - A B C D E F G# - AmMaj7 / you can also add (b6) 2) Locrian #6 - B C D E F G# A - Bm7b5 3) Ionian #5 - C D E F G# A B - Cmaj7#5 4) Dorian #4 - D E F G# A B C - Dm7 / you can also add (#11) 5) Phrygian #3 (Phrygian Dominant) - E F G# A B C D - E7 / you can also add (b9,b13) 6) Lydian #2 - F G# A B C D E - Fmaj7 / you can also add (#9) 7) Mixolydian #1 (Diminished) - G# A B C D E F - G#dim7 the last one people also call - Altered Dominant bb7 MELODIC MINOR SCALE (this one is used in jazz non-stop) 1. Ionian b3 (Melodic Minor) 2. Dorian b2 3. Phrygian "b1" (Lydian #5) 4. Lydian b7 5. Mixolydian b6 6. Aeolian b5 7. Locrian b4 (Superlocrian) This post has been edited by Emir Hot: Dec 16 2009, 04:20 AM -------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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Dec 16 2009, 04:17 AM |
Thank for this Emir. This is a great resource. I will recall other scales later as we move on. It is too much to take at this time, you know. I will focus on the major modes first and then come back to it later. Yes that's a good decision I have just replied about it on the other thread -------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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Dec 18 2009, 05:35 AM |
Yes you are right.
In your example A, D, E you are playing A major scale. However when the chord goes to D then you think of your D root and memorize that D shape. That's your D lydian and your phrasing should circulate around that note, not around A note. We'll go more into this next month when I introduce some other stuff. First we need to sort this out and learn some arpeggios. QUOTE Locrian (3b7b or something) This is m7b5. If you harmonize this mode into 4 note chord (stack 3rd on top of 3rd) you will get m7b5 chord. Ionian - maj7 Dorian - m7 Phrygian - m7 Lydian - maj7 Mixolydian - dom7 (we only say 7) Aeolian - m7 Locrian - m7b5 -------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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Dec 18 2009, 07:43 AM |
Cool.. can't wait to practice more of this.
Does that last bit mean the mode's respective chords ? |
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Dec 18 2009, 07:59 AM |
Cool.. can't wait to practice more of this. Does that last bit mean the mode's respective chords ? Yes. Each mode harmonized into 4 note chord will give you those chords. Try it yourself. Take Dorian for example and play first, third, fifth and seventh note in order. You will get m7 chord and that's also m7 arpeggio. That's the same as when I say "stack 3rd on top of 3rd" but here I am talking about intervals not notes in order. Either way you will get the same thing. -------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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Dec 18 2009, 10:42 AM |
cool. Thanks Emir.
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Dec 19 2009, 05:30 AM |
He is my friend and one of my guitar heroes. Vinnie is awesome.
However I remember this video like 15 years ago and I tried to learn it this way. It didn't work for me. If you want to try it this way then of course you can have a go. I'd be more than happy to see you nail these modes like he does. I have a different approach for modes but in the end we all end up with the same result -------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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Dec 19 2009, 05:11 PM |
Ah great.. Perhaps I will have to find my own way to remember these modes.. lets see. I will keep on experimenting. I just want to be able to play on the neck correctly on a backing track.. on the fly improvisation (no matter the melody part). But that is definitely a long way to go and a lot of practice. Even Vinnie is still learning new stuff and that's an endless process. His every new album has different modal approach and licks. That's very noticable in his progress. -------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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Dec 27 2009, 05:36 AM |
Thanks for the PM. It's all good now. Your chord notes are wrong but don't worry about that, I didn't ask for it anyway The arpeggio notes are all ok.
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Dec 27 2009, 06:16 AM |
Yes they have arpegios. The same ones as their related chords. Actually the chords produced by a harmonized mode are arpeggios. Arpeggio is nothing more than a chord but when you play notes separately (not at the same time).
Major scale has maj7 arpegio (if we're talking about 4 notes). If you take only 3 notes you will get pure major triad arpeggio. Dorian has min7 arpeggio, the same as its corresponding chord - etc... You already know all of them except Locrian (m7b5). Now there are extentions that you can use. For example if you add 9th in your maj7 you get maj9 arpeggio but when you have 5 or more notes people usually start calling it scales. 5 notes is a pentatonic scale of some kind. It can be pure major or minor, hybrid etc... We can try to speed up things in January so you get to do the whole thing. -------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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Dec 29 2009, 06:16 AM |
Hmm... I tried recording the REC take today but its not 100% right. I m also not getting that clean sound (note to note separation) and then at least timing issue in one place. I will try another session tonight and hopefully post it. What was the distortion level on your setting in the Alternate Triplet Feeling Lesson? I have it 6-7 but its it feels like too much distortion (although I am palm muting). I will play around with the setting. It's about 6-7 but that depends on which amp/distortion you use. I use plugin Amplitube 2. My settings won't help you. You just have to feel what sounds right and go for it. -------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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