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Jan 31 2008, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 31 2008, 02:13 AM)  Maybe I didn't understand,what is wrong,my personal opinion about him as unique(lead) player?  Hehe yes muris, in this case I think it's safe to say your personal opinion is wrong  I get your point and surely this goes for many guitarists that maybe wouldn't have made it with support of a unique band. Led Zeppelin as a whole were unique, so Page was noticed. In this case maybe the Yardbirds helped a bit but that "plant school" for musicians is a story of it's own and some really interesting coincidents in switching between guitarists that all became huge. Same with AC/DC I'd say, would Angus have been noticed if it hadn't been for Bon Scott's and brother Malcolm? Did Ian Gillan help Blackmoore to become noticed? Someone like Eddie Van Halen I belive would have made it anytime, anywhere end if he had had me as a drummer in his band  It's just personal opinions. Just as muris I can be wrong too  Hope the initial "urgent message" was taken so some OT discussion is allowed
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Jan 31 2008, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE (mattacuk @ Jan 31 2008, 11:12 AM) Well you know . In all honesty Jimmy Page as a guitarist doesent do it for me in the slightest.... but that doesnt mean he i not an excellent guitarist - its just he dosent "float my boat" as it were He was a studio musician prior to Led Zeppelin, or Yardbirds even, and I don't know if studio musicians are hired on criterias that they can apply different styles without adding their own coloring. So to say - Make it sound like the band you're recording with no Page in it. Just as a parallell to own style vs being a good musician in general -------------------- My bands homepage
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Jan 31 2008, 01:50 PM
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Agreed - we need a Page lesson urgently!
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Feb 2 2008, 01:53 AM
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QUOTE (blindwillie @ Feb 1 2008, 11:08 PM) No worries Muris, that's a good thing. Makes people think  Of course I disagree with you though. If you are saying that it's the solos that defines a guitarist then in my opinion you are wrong. Listening to solos that's not really part of the song (showing off) is just as exciting as looking at how excellent someone can handle a toothbrush. Of course I didn't say that!!! I sad his solo playing isn't that unique for my taste and view, like per example Knopfler,Jeff Beck,Blackmore,Hendrix etc , these guys have their own VEERY powerful trademark, even today which is quite amazing,you try to copy them a bit and it'd be sooo obvious. I putted more light on his solo parts cause most the In Style Lessons here are solo stuff,correct me if I'm wrong. And finally,we are ALL aware of the fact that soloing is just a small piece of being guitarist,musician generally. Composing,innovations,generation leader, I would say those are major parts of Page's greatness! -------------------- Youtube
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Feb 2 2008, 03:12 AM
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All great guitarists must be seen in the context of their era.
Is a model model T ford a good car by todays standards? No, but it was the most popular car of its era. Just because the craft of guitar playing has moved on and is today judged by different technical standards, does not invalidate the contributions of earlier players. Jimmy Page is not a Vai or Pettrucci, but in his day he was the equivalent - a dude who was breaking the rules and playing stuff the like of which noone had ever heard before - that has to count for something. To say nothing of the technique versus musical feel argument - older guitarists like page played slower, less notes, but perhaps they were closer to the music as a result. I realize that this comment may be contravrsial as we all have different opinions, but I am trying to make the point that faster and more modern techniques are not necessarily better, because at the end of it all, the judgement of music is in how it makes us as listeners feel, not hom many notes we play, or how flawlessly we play them. For that reaosn, I see players like Page, Clapton & Hendrix to be just as deserving of the guitar god label now as they were in their time, modern developments not withstanding, but at the same time you have to give props to the newer guys for taking the art to an entirely new and unbelievable level - its all part of the same thing whichever way you cut it. Ok, I'm done ... -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Feb 3 2008, 01:58 AM
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QUOTE (inertia @ Feb 3 2008, 01:47 AM) I'm a bit surprised that some people don't think he had great leads, everyone is entitled to their opinion though for sure And once more I've been misunderstood Page's leads ARE great,I wasn't talking of greatness(you define it) but of uniqueness,a special stamp. Many players have great and powerful leads but without major personality imho. -------------------- Youtube
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