London Burning: Riots For Third Night?, What in the heck is going on? |
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Aug 10 2011, 12:27 AM
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Any Londoners on GMC? What is going on ? Looks pretty crazy.
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Aug 10 2011, 12:55 AM
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Yeah man
 ! I wanted to ask about it ,what's going on there ?!?!?!?
This post has been edited by Sinisa Cekic: Aug 10 2011, 12:56 AM |
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Aug 10 2011, 03:54 AM
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they're riotting against the state,but it's always the innocent people that get's their car burned and houses demolished...etc..
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Aug 10 2011, 05:27 AM
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that's crazy and stupidly violent.
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Aug 10 2011, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE (Sollesnes @ Aug 10 2011, 03:01 PM)  +1 England has always had strong social status differences. These are people with no job, no school, no forseeable better future. It started with a protest against police brutality (in england the police can be kinda brutal) after a familydad was shot dead by police (and police saying he shot (first), which later was found there are no proof of), and then escalated into people rioting for goods. They have nothing, and grabbing the few things that they can, is worth it for them. It is a very sad situation - not just the fact that there are hundreds of thugs robbing whatever they can get, but the fact that society created this group of people in the first place. You don't have to look further than the british political system to see that it's a very divided society. As some youth worker said in an interviewe about these riotsr, 'Children are not born as thugs, it's socialised in to them.' I'm old enough to have been around and living in Toxteth during the Toxteth riots some 30 years ago. I also remember Broadwater Farm, Handsworth, Bristol and other places in the UK rioting over 25 years ago. At the time much of the general rhetoric was the same and what was glossed over and largely ignored were the social inequalities in the UK. Little has changed since then, and arguably some things have gotten worse. In 1980 95% of the wealth in the the UK was in the hands of 15% of the population now it's 98% in the hands of 6%. England is at the bottom of the league table for social mobility - if you are born poor you are more likely to die poor then in any other developed nation. Health and life span is considerably worse for those who live in the inner cities and the inner city population is disproportionately non-white. The police are10 times more likely to stop you if you are non-white then if you are white in the same area and doing the same thing. If you are under 25 yrs old its 20 times. If you appear in court you are 20 times more likely to receive a custodial sentance for the same 1st offense as someone who is white. Non-white children are significantly more likely to grow up in a home where the male role model is either in prison or has a prison record. If you have a prison record you are significantly more likely to be unemployed. I could go on at length but I won't as this sort of inequity leaves a nasty taste in my mouth. What I will say is this - 35 years ago after Toxteth the UK government talked about the lessons to be learnt. It seems like we haven't learnt any. -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Aug 10 2011, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE (Sollesnes @ Aug 10 2011, 11:01 AM) +1 England has always had strong social status differences. These are people with no job, no school, no forseeable better future. It started with a protest against police brutality (in england the police can be kinda brutal) after a familydad was shot dead by police (and police saying he shot (first), which later was found there are no proof of), and then escalated into people rioting for goods. They have nothing, and grabbing the few things that they can, is worth it for them. It is a very sad situation - not just the fact that there are hundreds of thugs robbing whatever they can get, but the fact that society created this group of people in the first place. You don't have to look further than the british political system to see that it's a very divided society. It's a pity, the same happens here in South America... the social/economical differences are so strong and this only bring problems.. there are lots of Children that aren't going to school, and this will be something dangerous in the future... We had similar problems around 10 years ago... I hope that everything goes normal soon. -------------------- My lessons
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It looks like they looted and burned the SONY distrubution warehouse that is supposed to supply big parts of Europe. Evidently 150 indie/minor record lables had their product in there to be distributed by Sony through distribution deals. About a years worth of product just went up in flames (not that most folks want CD's these days) but if you are in Europe, it may be a while before certain releases have physical units again. But that's the smallest issue at this point. |
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Aug 11 2011, 10:12 PM
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Definitely bad thing for the people, I hope it will pass, and that they will come to sense. I'm not sure what is happening there, I'm not living there, so I won't pass any judgement.
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Aug 12 2011, 01:42 AM
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I had no idea the social unrest in England was this bad. I don't think anyone here in the states really does. I mean, we have rough parts of town and high unemployment but folks dont' bust in to a riot and start burning busses (Well, outside of LosAngeles) without some serious provocation.
 
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