Why Not To Use Pirated Software, Some personal thoughts for debate |
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Why Not To Use Pirated Software, Some personal thoughts for debate |
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Nov 14 2007, 02:32 AM
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First of all, Kudos to blindwillie, his post made a lot of sense.
Your full of crap! You would care, its like in school you do your homework and everyone else copies it you feel screwed because your the only one who did it and everyone else got a free ride. If you bought a 1500 dollar guitar and every one else got it for free how would you feel. Its all the same say I buy Adobe Photoshop CS3 for upwards of 600 dollars, but you got it for free I'd be pissed and you would to if it was the other way around. So don't lie to me, yourself, or anyone else. Coincidentally Apple did that with the iPhone, people bought it when it came out and then two weeks later dropped the price $200, big business is not against using questionable tactics as well. In recent surveys piracy also appears not to have effected album sales either: Interesting Guardian Article On Canadian Album Sales Also in 2005 the UK albums chart recorded its highest ever sales in history, despite the rapid influx in people downloading music from the internet. Of course this only applies to CD's - which are generally available at a cheap price anyway, I have no idea how piracy effects small software companies producing high cost and high budget products - however I'm willing to stick a limb out and say not positively. Dont get me wrong, I'm not trying to put forward the case for piracy here, but in general it doesnt seem to be effecting most industries at all, most people will buy the majority of products they use and I've not seen many of the more successful software companies harvesting a loss financially of recent. In short I think the whole thing is a tad blown out of proportion but never the less it is illegal and if people want to find illegal things they dont have to look hard - a quick search on google will do it, as such I do not think it is appropriate to post such things up for discussion on GMC - people know how to find this stuff and GMC need not be associated with it. I am not going to stop people pirating, people have their reasons and we're never going to change that by simply saying "Piracy is bad, stop now!" or being rude and hollering at them, legally Fsgdjv is in the wrong but who am I to tell him what and what not to do? He doesnt seem to be having a negative impact statistically so at the end of the day, why should we enforce something when he is most likely causing no harm. We have all done immoral and wrong things, now I'm no Christian - I'm actually an agnostic, but there is a quote by the big J that makes perfect sense in this context; Let ye who is without sin, cast the first stone. Hope someone understands where I'm coming from here - Owen -------------------- Don't Panic.
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Nov 14 2007, 02:34 AM |
And for the record, my edit was more about the big letters than the content - it would have got through unscathed otherwise but I took the opportunity to soften it slightly.
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Nov 14 2007, 04:33 AM |
Apologies Andrew - my mistake.
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Nov 14 2007, 05:19 AM
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Really good post radarlove. I agree with you on many points you mentioned.
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Nov 14 2007, 06:27 AM
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Nov 14 2007, 06:44 AM |
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Nov 14 2007, 07:37 AM |
Anarchy. Well, we could all just stop questioning things and walk a straight line. See how that works out. -------------------- My bands homepage
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Nov 14 2007, 07:58 AM |
Good example of the flaws in the logic of people deciding whatever they want to decide. Here one guy decides what traffic laws matter. I don't think a lot of cops would agree with you, maybe they have a good reason? Nobody is perfect, but come on, stealing is stealing. All this hand waving so people can feel justified and taking something that does not belong to them, because they can get away with it. Just like those people looting television sets, robbing houses in New Orleans after the flood. Stealing software is what middle class do, the poor break into the stores. Same thing in my book. Same dishonesty. Just different opportunities presented to both economic classes, but still the same basic character. Take whatever you can take, whether it belongs to you or not, if you think you can get away with it. edit: btw, pretty much the same philosophy of life of your average rodent. Hope that does not offend anyone, I actually respect rodents. But we are not rodents. And should not have rodent ethics I believe. I wasn't refering to any "reclaim" streets/the city or whatever action which main purpose seem to be to destroy things. And it's so neat how you managed to deminish both the middle class and the poor in one single sentence. Why not mention the rich? Avoiding taxes, elbowing their way up while others have to take the fall, record company bosses who cash in the big money. Do you think they are all honest? It's typical you forget to mention the rich who probably move the most dishonest money around and it's a typical mistake to think honesty is in their nature. A little civil disobeyance is just healthy, both for society and the indivudal, healthy as in evolving. And if you're refering to animal society and having so many animals you should really know of survival of the fittest. If we would break the discussion down to what's in mans nature it's for certain not to follow the laws but to survive. Much like a rodent or a cockroach. And with a flooding situation like you refeer to there are other philosopical rules that apply - Pavlov - as the basic foundation to material and economical security gets swept away. People from outside will also see their chanse to fetch stuff as their needs tell them they need to improve their situation, wether it's to buy drugs or they need a TV. None that apply to software stealing or how companies steer the music or movie insustry. Nor has it anything to do with running a red light or speeding. Especially speeding as in my example is something that most part of the population does at some time and the affect it has will in some cases be that the speed limit is increased. It happens here. Civil disobeyance since the runles dont apply to the reality leads to a change of rules. Stealing a TV like you said will clearly not change the rules so that act will become legal. Seriously, to that extent I don't see your point... at all. Nobody (again, in the whole grand scheme of things) really cares about college kids downloading Metallica on Limewire. Lars does -------------------- My bands homepage
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