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maharzan View Member Profile	Jun 6 2010, 05:36 AM
Jun 6 2010, 05:36 AM	Veteran Guitar Lord Posts: 2.381 Joined: 2-May 09 From: Kathmandu	Hi Ben, I saw your new lesson (and welcome to GMC again). This lesson is fantastic mainly because this horizontal vibrato technique is something I never knew. I have seen few other guitarists do it but I thought it was more like trilling or something. I tried to move my fingers horizontally, even tried without resting my thumb on the neck. While I can get the movement, the sound doesn't change a pitch.. Its just like one note is ringing and no vibrato. I have seen the videos and it looks like you are just moving your finger horizontally.. now whats the secret here? Can we go into more detail on how the actual fingers should be moved? Please help me understand this technique. Thanks, Chandra You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Checkout my YouTube & my band Nissim's YouTube channels.

jafomatic View Member Profile	Jun 6 2010, 09:14 AM
Jun 6 2010, 09:14 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.049 Joined: 6-May 09 From: Austin, TX	I can't tell you what I first thought when I read the subject of this post. I'm eager to see if the moderators change it You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- ::jafomatic http://jafomatic.net/tunes/ <-- Here lies the master collection of my collaboration and other improvisation recordings. Might as well add my youtube channel

Ben Higgins View Member Profile	Jun 6 2010, 09:16 AM
Jun 6 2010, 09:16 AM	Instructor Posts: 13.792 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England	QUOTE (jafomatic @ Jun 6 2010, 09:14 AM) I can't tell you what I first thought when I read the subject of this post. I'm eager to see if the moderators change it Me too, it certainly made me raise my eyebrow and wonder what sort of message I was giving off ! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Lessons My Youtube Channel My Band

Darknodar123 View Member Profile	Jun 6 2010, 09:20 AM
Jun 6 2010, 09:20 AM	GMC:er Posts: 235 Joined: 22-October 09 From: Greece	QUOTE (jafomatic @ Jun 6 2010, 11:14 AM) I can't tell you what I first thought when I read the subject of this post. I'm eager to see if the moderators change it At first I didnt think of that I see you guys are familiar with this stuff Just kidding You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! --------------------

zen View Member Profile	Jun 6 2010, 09:22 AM
Jun 6 2010, 09:22 AM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 1.138 Joined: 26-January 08 From: Melbourne, Australia	... thats how we welcome new instructors to gmc You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- "If the need is deep, you WILL find a way , if it isn't, you'll find some excuse" Check out my Student Instructor Lesson on Metal Riffing HERE Visit My Youtube Channel

Ben Higgins View Member Profile	Jun 6 2010, 09:34 AM
Jun 6 2010, 09:34 AM	Instructor Posts: 13.792 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England	QUOTE (maharzan @ Jun 6 2010, 05:36 AM) Hi Ben, I saw your new lesson (and welcome to GMC again). This lesson is fantastic mainly because this horizontal vibrato technique is something I never knew. I have seen few other guitarists do it but I thought it was more like trilling or something. I tried to move my fingers horizontally, even tried without resting my thumb on the neck. While I can get the movement, the sound doesn't change a pitch.. Its just like one note is ringing and no vibrato. I have seen the videos and it looks like you are just moving your finger horizontally.. now whats the secret here? Can we go into more detail on how the actual fingers should be moved? Please help me understand this technique. Thanks, Chandra Hi Chandra, First of all, thank you for your kind welcome and I'm really happy that you've shown an interest in this lesson. Ok... I remember that I had the same sort of problem with this vibrato when I first tried it. The key here is pressure. To get the vibrato, you have to apply quite a lot of pressure.. more than you may first think. When I do it, the force comes all the way from my elbow, through my forearm and hand... and then to the fingers. If you try moving the fingers on their own, then it probably won't do much. Also, the other important thing is to use your idle fingers (the ones that are not playing the note) to push against the finger that is on the note... this adds more strength and allows you to add more pressure. Which fingers have you tried using to play the vibrato ? Try using your 3rd finger to play the note. Then use your 1st and 2nd finger to push against your 3rd finger. This means that your 3rd finger is not 'on its own'. You can combine the strength of more than one finger. Ok.. so to recap... allow the force to come all the way through your arm and to your hand. Almost imagine that your arm is applying the vibrato.. and your fingers are just holding the string in place, and stopping it from escaping Don't worry if you have a little difficulty at first. It took me a while to be able to use this type of vibrato... so just experiment with adding more pressure and using the strength of your whole arm. Think of it as a combination of arm & fingers.. rather than wrist. The wrist doesn't really do much with classical vibrato. All the wrist needs to do is be a steady point between arm and fingers. I hope this helps. Please feel free to ask again though if you'd like more help Take care and good luck Ben QUOTE (zen @ Jun 6 2010, 09:22 AM) ... thats how we welcome new instructors to gmc Excellent... thank you You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Lessons My Youtube Channel My Band

maharzan View Member Profile	Jun 6 2010, 10:01 AM
Jun 6 2010, 10:01 AM	Veteran Guitar Lord Posts: 2.381 Joined: 2-May 09 From: Kathmandu	OOOPs sorry guys.. that wasn't intentional.. I just saw it now LoL!... Thanks Ben.. I have tried with all fingers (as you mentioned / pushing together with idle fingers). I will experiment with adding pressure and see how it comes out.. I guess thats the only thing I haven't tried. It does tend to cut the fingers (feeling) though.. like sliding your finger on a knife (at least the pinky finger on the 1st string. OUCH! ) Thanks again all.. I hope if someone searches for vibrator now on google, GMC is gonna get some traffic.. EDIT: OH YEA!! I hear it now.. cool.. that is quite an intensive pressure we need to apply.. hmm!! nice! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by maharzan: Jun 6 2010, 09:59 AM -------------------- Checkout my YouTube & my band Nissim's YouTube channels.

Ben Higgins View Member Profile	Jun 6 2010, 10:44 AM
Jun 6 2010, 10:44 AM	Instructor Posts: 13.792 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England	QUOTE (maharzan @ Jun 6 2010, 10:01 AM) OOOPs sorry guys.. that wasn't intentional.. I just saw it now LoL!... Thanks Ben.. I have tried with all fingers (as you mentioned / pushing together with idle fingers). I will experiment with adding pressure and see how it comes out.. I guess thats the only thing I haven't tried. It does tend to cut the fingers (feeling) though.. like sliding your finger on a knife (at least the pinky finger on the 1st string. OUCH! ) Thanks again all.. I hope if someone searches for vibrator now on google, GMC is gonna get some traffic.. EDIT: OH YEA!! I hear it now.. cool.. that is quite an intensive pressure we need to apply.. hmm!! nice! Hi Chandra, Haha... yes, regarding the accidental traffic.. maybe we should put that idea to Kris ? That's brilliant.. I'm really glad you've noticed a result. Yes, your fingertips are just not used to doing it yet.. but the skin will harden and you'll be a vibrato wizard in no time !! You'll really notice how it opens the door to adding more expression, especially on those higher notes on the 1st string which are difficult to add vibrato to. Let me know how you progress... I'm always glad to help in any way ! Take care Ben You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Lessons My Youtube Channel My Band

maharzan View Member Profile	Jun 6 2010, 03:01 PM
Jun 6 2010, 03:01 PM	Veteran Guitar Lord Posts: 2.381 Joined: 2-May 09 From: Kathmandu	Thanks Ben, I will keep testing it and your lesson, lets see if I can get all that perfect. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Checkout my YouTube & my band Nissim's YouTube channels.

thefireball View Member Profile	Jun 6 2010, 03:15 PM
Jun 6 2010, 03:15 PM	Learning Roadie Posts: 4.537 Joined: 9-March 10 From: United States, Arkansas	QUOTE (jafomatic @ Jun 6 2010, 03:14 AM) I can't tell you what I first thought when I read the subject of this post. I'm eager to see if the moderators change it +1 I hate to say I thought the same thing. QUOTE (zen @ Jun 6 2010, 03:22 AM) ... thats how we welcome new instructors to gmc hahaha I think "Vibrato Question for Ben Higgins" would've been a better title! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- YouTube - A Place For Melodic Guitarists Instagram - Behind the Music Analyzed Within - My Christian Metal Band

maharzan View Member Profile	Jun 6 2010, 03:25 PM
Jun 6 2010, 03:25 PM	Veteran Guitar Lord Posts: 2.381 Joined: 2-May 09 From: Kathmandu	haha.. the secret here is you must own one to give that lesson a try.. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Checkout my YouTube & my band Nissim's YouTube channels.

jafomatic View Member Profile	Jun 7 2010, 05:56 AM
Jun 7 2010, 05:56 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.049 Joined: 6-May 09 From: Austin, TX	in addition to pressure, I'd suggest another note: remove any of that RIDICULOUS fastfret stuff if you want this classical vibrato. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- ::jafomatic http://jafomatic.net/tunes/ <-- Here lies the master collection of my collaboration and other improvisation recordings. Might as well add my youtube channel

maharzan View Member Profile	Jun 7 2010, 05:58 AM
Jun 7 2010, 05:58 AM	Veteran Guitar Lord Posts: 2.381 Joined: 2-May 09 From: Kathmandu	lol You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Checkout my YouTube & my band Nissim's YouTube channels.

Staffy View Member Profile	Jun 7 2010, 08:06 AM
Jun 7 2010, 08:06 AM	Learning Tone Master Posts: 2.294 Joined: 18-June 09 From: Genarp, Sweden	I dont get this, was it a woman who started this thread???? //Staffay You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars: Ibanez AM-200, Ibanez GB-10, Fender Stratocaster Classic Player, Warmouth Custom Built, Suhr Classic Strat, Gibson Les Paul Standard 2003, Ibanez steel-string Amps: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, Marshall JMP 2103, AER 60 Effects: BOSS DD-20, Danelectro Trans. Overdrive, TC-Electronics G-Major, Dunlop Wah-wah, Original SansAmp, BOSS DD-2 Music by Staffy can be found at: Staffay at MySpace

maharzan View Member Profile	Jun 8 2010, 12:02 PM
Jun 8 2010, 12:02 PM	Veteran Guitar Lord Posts: 2.381 Joined: 2-May 09 From: Kathmandu	LoL Staffay! I bet you are jealous You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Checkout my YouTube & my band Nissim's YouTube channels.

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