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Posted by: Rated Htr Sep 16 2008, 07:24 PM

I know all the chord formation rules, and the major chords in their first shapes but, I don't know the notes on the fretboard (yet) and I would like to know how to form the chords with 6,maj7 and all that because I might know the theory, but if I play a C Major Chord let's say, I don't know which note in what string is the root, which one is the 3rd andwhich one is the 5th, I want to know if it's possible for me to learn how to do the C6 chord let's say, without knowing the notes on the fretboard...I hope I got myself understood


Thanks in advance
Filipe

Posted by: fatb0t Sep 16 2008, 07:35 PM

http://www.blackbeltguitar.com/Generator.php

Learn the ins and outs

Posted by: Rated Htr Sep 16 2008, 07:53 PM

Sorry, but can you tell me what you mean by ins and outs?

Posted by: Emir Hot Sep 16 2008, 09:16 PM

If you are playing C major chord, your root is every C note regardless in which octave you have it in the shape. To be able to form chord shapes like you want then of course you need to learn all notes on the fretboard. You only have 12 of them so it's not that difficult. Start with dotted frets - 3rd, 5th, 7th fret... Then add ones in between. When you learn this it shouldn't be big problem to generate chords. I never think of notes and intervals, I always learn the shape. Once I know my chord shape I can always use it in any key but of course I need to know the notes on the fretboard so I can set my root correctly.

Posted by: Rated Htr Sep 16 2008, 10:12 PM

So it really is mission impossible I guess ...The shapes I already know but sometimes, when I forget, let's say, a C7, If I knew the fretboard, I would know auto which string to lower down the fret, that was what I was trying to find out, if there was a possible way before knowing the whole fretboard, since I wanted them for next tuesday...

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Sep 17 2008, 10:02 AM

Your problem is exactly what you said - you don't know notes on the fretboard. Furthermore, it is important to connect the scale notes on the fretboard to chords in theory as well. So if you have a major scale, you must be able to know exactly where are the chords on top of that scale in every position. Tough job? Well not really..
If you approach the problem in a wiser way, you will see that you don't need to go in-depth right away. First it is important to find where are those basic "E shaped" "A shaped" and "D shaped" (they got their name after the open E A and D chords). Find those basic chords on top of the key you're in and in the same time print out a fretboard layout of that scale (for example go on top of the C major key and print out a C major scale). You will see all these notes around the chords you are fretting, so now all you have to do is count the notes from the rootes of chords and make any chord you want.
Although this seems like a lot of work, I suggest you just take your time, and let things settle naturally, nobody learned this in one go, so take it easy, and practice as much as you can, if you do, you will learn it in no time.

Posted by: Rated Htr Sep 17 2008, 10:40 AM

I guess the problem here is than, which are the better ways to learn all the notes on the fretboard...I strongly agree that fretboard knowledge is very helpful but I've yet to figure out a proper way to learn it all...

Posted by: Jerry Arcidiacono Sep 17 2008, 10:53 AM

As Emir said before, start with dotted frets. As example the 3rd, 5th and the 7th fret have no alterations - except on the 3rd fret on G string and 7th fret on the B string. So, these notes are quite simple to remember.

You can also learn different shapes for different chords but if you know some theory you will be able to find your own voicings. A lesson about voicing is coming...