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 Nov 25 2009, 10:32 PM
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The Dark Fire, a refinement of the robot series, with built in multiple tunings and tones.
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Nov 25 2009, 10:36 PM
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 GMC Admin & Bass Instructor  Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 14.038 Joined: 30-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia Member No.: 3.410 |
Wow guitar looks great and it comes with some sort of recording interface from Gibson!
 I really like the "robot" tuning technology! Its a real advancement and pretty useful tool to have installed!
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Nov 25 2009, 10:41 PM
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GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 484 Joined: 25-May 08 From: Southwest USA Member No.: 5.174 |
Apparently it can do some rather drastic drop tunings. I wonder how they accomplish that physically without changing string gauge, truss rod tension, etc.
It comes with Ableton and Guitar Rig 3. Price is around $3500. -------------------- "I dreamed a lot when I was younger.. I'm older now but still I hunger For some understanding. There's no understanding, now. Was there ever? ...Joe Puerta (Ambrosia)... Finally got a YouTube page going. |
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Nov 25 2009, 10:47 PM
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GMC Admin & Bass Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 14.038 Joined: 30-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia Member No.: 3.410 |
QUOTE (jdriver @ Nov 25 2009, 10:41 PM)  Apparently it can do some rather drastic drop tunings. I wonder how they accomplish that physically without changing string gauge, truss rod tension, etc. It comes with Ableton and Guitar Rig 3. Price is around $3500. I don't know how they do it. I guess all tunings are programmed but you need to have proper gauge strings for it to actually work in practice Its a nice package/price for a robot gibson I guess... -------------------- Need to ask about anything GMC related? Send me a pm
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Nov 25 2009, 11:12 PM
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 Learning Tone Master Group: Members Posts: 1.423 Joined: 9-October 08 From: East Midlands U.K Member No.: 6.062 |
I wonder if it can self-intonate HAHAHa gibson stop making guitars nobodys gunna buy...
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Nov 25 2009, 11:17 PM
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 Learning Tone Master  Group: MVC Posts: 3.185 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Germany Member No.: 2.164 |
It actually can self intonate!
The DARK FIRE is out for a while now, Gibson is coming up with the next step in *revolutionary* guitar design and technology... god the CEOs will ruin my favourite company!! I present to you, the Gibson DUSK TIGER: http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Feat...son-dusk-tiger/ http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/84790 --------------------  Gear: - Jackson USA Select KV2 King V with EMG 81/85 - Gibson Les Paul Custom Arctic White with EMG 81/85 - Ibanez Rg 8527 J Custom 7-String with DiMarzio Evolution and Air Norton - Peavey 6505+ head with Marshall 1960AV 4x12 cab - Peavey Vypyr 30 Practice Amp - Dunlop Crybaby From Hell, Maxon OD808, Boss TU-2, MXR CarbonCopy, ISP Decimator, MXR Custom Audio Electronics Booster |
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Nov 25 2009, 11:19 PM
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Learning Tone Master Group: Members Posts: 1.423 Joined: 9-October 08 From: East Midlands U.K Member No.: 6.062 |
QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Nov 25 2009, 10:17 PM) It actually can self intonate! Damn i knew i was gunna be proved wrong! XD This post has been edited by VictorUK: Nov 25 2009, 11:20 PM -------------------- |
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Nov 27 2009, 05:23 PM
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 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 5.655 Joined: 11-October 09 From: Bogota Member No.: 7.694 |
that is crazy! you could even use the auto tuning in the middle of a song,
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Dec 1 2009, 06:52 PM
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 Instructor (Blind Guardian) Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 3.433 Joined: 5-March 08 From: Germany Member No.: 4.464 |
The tuners work flawless, I used them live and in the studio already, it is amazing what tronical invented here.
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Dec 1 2009, 07:31 PM
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 Learning Rock Star - Wiki Coordinator  Group: GMC Senior Posts: 6.575 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Spain Member No.: 3.338 |
After many threads about dark fire/robot guitars, I have to ask, is it good for a guitar to constantly change tunings from standard to drop D to half step down etc etc.?
I was talking with the guys at my local shop the other day and they told me I shouldn't be changing tunings all the time on my SG as it affects the neck set-up etc. This post has been edited by Fran: Dec 1 2009, 07:31 PM -------------------- Guitars:
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Dec 1 2009, 08:43 PM
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 Learning Tone Master Group: MVC Posts: 2.294 Joined: 18-June 09 From: Genarp, Sweden Member No.: 7.291 |
Hmmm, I dont really see Gibson as innovators in this area, since Piezo-mics has been around in years from other manufactorers. The tune function is however kinda cool, even that I would personally have different guitars for different purposes instead. The intonation/autotune seems also a little obscure, since a guitar without a trem does'nt normally face the latter problem at least.... Also, I dont think its a good idea to have that much technique "onboard" - it will be harder to do future updates and the instrument itself will become obsolete....
Otherwise, I'ts good to see that Gibson tries to be innovative and not just stays on old fame and their regular models. But personally I prefer my LP Standard instead.... //Staffay --------------------  Guitars: Ibanez AM-200, Ibanez GB-10, Fender Stratocaster Classic Player, Warmouth Custom Built, Suhr Classic Strat, Gibson Les Paul Standard 2003, Ibanez steel-string Amps: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, Marshall JMP 2103, AER 60 Effects: BOSS DD-20, Danelectro Trans. Overdrive, TC-Electronics G-Major, Dunlop Wah-wah, Original SansAmp, BOSS DD-2 Music by Staffy can be found at: Staffay at MySpace |
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Dec 1 2009, 09:53 PM
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 Experienced Tone Seeker  Group: GMC Wiki:er Posts: 1.037 Joined: 30-January 07 From: Canada Member No.: 1.135 |
QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Dec 1 2009, 10:52 AM) The tuners work flawless, I used them live and in the studio already, it is amazing what tronical invented here. Marcus, You were exactly the person I thought of when I saw this. I wondered if you could make use of them for performing. Thanks for reading my mind.  Tom --------------------  Still looking for my soul mate, guitar. |
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Dec 4 2009, 09:57 PM
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Instructor (Blind Guardian) Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 3.433 Joined: 5-March 08 From: Germany Member No.: 4.464 |
The big advantage of the tronical system (those tuners) is that also on stage you can be sure that for every song your guitar is perfectly in tune. Tuning takes about 2 seconds (!!!), I never tried it but in theory you could even retune your guitar in a short drumbreak or something like that
Personally I am not using many different tunings, the BG standard tuning is E-Flat, but I love playing around with different tunings when looking for new ideas, cause a different tuning forces you to leave your routine behind, chords are different, scales are different, you don't use the regular stuff over and over again like that. And with a system like that you can change to a drop d tuning for example in a few seconds, which is pretty confortable. Also in the studio it can save you a lot of time. Normally I check my tuning every couple of takes, with this system you can check it all the time, it will only cost you 2 seconds.
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Dec 4 2009, 11:31 PM
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Experienced Tone Seeker Group: GMC Wiki:er Posts: 1.037 Joined: 30-January 07 From: Canada Member No.: 1.135 |
Thanks for that info, Marcus. As I neither play in the studio, or live, I've often wanted those tuners just to relieve the hassle of continuously tuning my guitar. Obviously a luxury, but....so?
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