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Praetorian
Apr 21 2010, 12:09 AM
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Just a quick mention here...

How about a check box on each lesson section, that we can click off when we have that section mastered. Then, a main check box once we have memorized a lesson. I often find myself loading up a lesson that I have already played because I can't possibly remember all the ones I have already played.

Also, a video chat room for everyone would be killer!

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Apr 21 2010, 12:30 AM
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To all the guys speaking about video chat room: I know the stream for the current video chat is of Ustream.com, but a site such as Tinychat.com allows video chat with multiple video chatters. Maybe that could be incorporated in some way.

This post should not be included in suggestion competition though.

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Apr 21 2010, 04:34 AM
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I think Kris will have a LOT of work to do with all these ideas. Hahaha

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Apr 22 2010, 10:13 PM
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Using Self Daily-Checker and Weekly Checker.

Everybody knows that being good player is a long journey. It does not happen in flesh with ease. We all understand that we need to practice very hard to be a good guitar player like GMC instructors. However, we often feel very overwhelmed because we do no know ‘what to do’ and ‘how to do it’ and ‘how much to practice it.’ Fortunately, GMC has been helping us to solve the questions; ‘what to do’ and ‘how to do it’ by offering A1 video lessons. But ‘how much do’ is still remaining a question.

There is no doubt that techniques, tones and theories are all important for all guitar players. But another importance is to enjoy playing and practicing the guitar for a long time without fatigue and discouragement. It is strongly related to the question ‘how much do I need to practice each lessons’? An answer is ‘step by step’. However, it is needed more detail ‘step by step’.

Since GMC is online based, we should look after ourselves. Under the circumstance, I recommend that GMC introduce Daily and Weekly Self-checker sheets to any paid-members.

Here is a daily checker. (See attached Files~~~I have three files; daily checker, Weekly checker and Chromatic checker)

It is consist of sections (subsections), names of method (videos title & level), time, tempo on a metronome, key and remark and self-comment. I explain how to practically use.

Students do not have to practice all section and subsection. What we focus on is to record what we will do (did), how long we will do (did).

1. Just pick one video that you want to play and you can do(as your feeling).

2. And record video title.

3. Do not forget to check and record how long you practice. The reason to limit 30 minutes a subsection is to prevent students from overplaying over 30minutes and to have a five minute break. Apparently, practicing one technique over 30 minutes can make us sick and tired of playing. High obsession to one piece of riff or techniques is not good for long run.

4. Do record tempos on metronome. It reminds you to practice guitar with metronome. When it gathers on Weekly checker or other checker, it will let you know how your picking speed grow. (I apply the checker system into chromatic-checker. See third file). The visual evidence for development and achievement is another joy for guitar-kid who wants to be down stroke machine, Metallica.

5. Record some notes (if you need)

Well, one subsection is ended and now moves on the other video or sections by expanding the way. Before finishing practice, check total time and write opinions or impressions, feelings ideas or plans that you have. It will reflect on next day practice. As days go by, we need to check your progress on each section by comparing with previous charts. After one week, Seven daily-checkers becomes one weekly checker. Players summary weekly result on weekly checker. I will expect that it will influence your lesson planning.

I recommend that you use them for a week by a way of showing example. It helps you to enjoy practicing without fatigue. Plus it will guide you to construct your lesson plan with own style.

It would be fantastic if GMC prepare online self-checker to customizing paid member. It will be also applicable for a future policy. Assuming that 1:1 online instructor system was offered in GMC, the self-checker would be helpful for instructors to overlook students’ status. Instructors will check whether they go on a right track or not.

Thanks

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Attached File  Dailychecker.pdf ( 653.02K ) Number of downloads: 274
Attached File  Weeklychecker.pdf ( 608.66K ) Number of downloads: 165
Attached File  Chromaticchecker.pdf ( 613.03K ) Number of downloads: 181
 
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Apr 22 2010, 10:38 PM
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Hello all of GMC

This article will be about improving the GMC website and is part of my participation in the competition
I've decided to use my sense of logic to point out what can be improved. So lets begin



To improve something you need to know what is wrong right?

Now I personally find the website a tiny bit unclear. The are boxes everywhere and sometimes it makes me loose my head a bit. I've had some computer and web technology in school and i've learned that frames are a great way of keeping things clear and simple on a website like this. However these frames should be placed in a good way. A good way and much used way of the usage of these frames is pretty simple: Create 2 frames which separate the website in 3 parts. One horizontally, which could be used as a head( currently
"Guitarmasterclass.net, more then 2000 online guitar lessons and active community". The other frame would divide the rest of the page in 2 parts, one about 5 or 6 times bigger the the other. The smaller one could be used for links to navigate around the page. At the moment when you click on " guitar lessons " or " workshop " a new page loads. This isn't the most convenient way of navigation. Dropdown menu's keeps things together and clear. The bigger part is used for the content a person wants to achieve. Only this part can be reloaded when a link in the other frame is clicked on. This way only a relatively small HTML-file needs to be reloaded, this might save some time. Remember that clear navigation is a high priority one web-building. Another often used way of web building is smart usage of colours. Forms should be quickly to identify from the rest of the page. Black-White differences are a great way of achieving this.
If the grey-white tints are to simillar, people with colour-blindness or other eye conditions might get a little agitated. I will include a simple drawing of how it might turn out. Being able to build a fancy website with nice pics and bright colours all over might look good. But the most important part of a website is its navigation.

An other aspect of a good running community is COMMUNICATION
Communication allows individuals to interact with one-another. I am not really active that much on GMC but if you want to have a good running online community, make sure people are able to simply send each other messages or chat. Again simplicity is the key. Nothing fancy, a clear simple communication system is all there is to a good running community. Maybe a system on the website which allows the student/user to directly send an email to an instructor just by filling in a form. Or a live chatbox where questions can be asked and answered quickly in a matter of seconds/minutes.



The lessons:

I really enjoy the lessons here, and i have learned some pretty sweet skills in the half year i have been a member of GMC. But there seems to be missing a bit of structure sometimes. One teacher places all the notes on tab, the other one includes them in the actual video. Both are good but its better to keep things in one way only. I prefer the tab because then you don't need to rewind the video. This isnt a major problem however if the teachers want to do there lessons their own way that is absolutely fine. Im just a regular guy behind his computer lol.


Guitar Theory,

What i kinda was looking for around this website was a nice article with all the theory about chords scales intervals etc etc. A load-out of information which can be accessed quickly and maybe with some cool features to print out.



And I guess that is pretty much it, I hope you guys find some of my information useful. My point of this article was to illustrate how a good website functions and not to criticise GMC's current website, which I think is fabulous. A summary of this article would be that, if you keep things clear and simple, and make sure interaction and communication are running fine, GMC will be a truly awesome place for guitarists

Good luck all and rock out!

p.s Sorry for any grammar-mistakes, I've tried my best and hope I've done well

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audiopaal
Apr 23 2010, 06:45 AM
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Competition Closed!

Thanks for all the remarkable improvement ideas, you have really outdone yourself this time smile.gif

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Andrew Cockburn
Apr 25 2010, 05:42 PM
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Wow, thanks all for the amazing entries, there are a lot of great ideas here! Thanks also to Paal for organising this!

The instructors are currently taking a look at the entries, and we will be announcing the winners in around a week or so.

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Daniel Realpe
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QUOTE (Alexiaden93 @ Mar 31 2010, 09:58 PM) *
Hey there fellow GMC'ers.

I've been watching some guitar related videos on YouTube and keep stumbling upon shred competitions like "Shred This" and "Petrucci Fever". I am no shredder, so I haven't entered any of them, but I have noticed that hundreds of guitarists submit their entries. Of course, being a SHRED competition, many people, like myself, feel unworthy of joining the fun, but with a more generous view concerning the solo, maybe more people would join? I mean to say that having a guitar-solo or melody competition using a certain backing track would be attractive to a larger part of the guitarist population than a high-level shred contest.



In this competition, Tom Quayle and Rick Graham were among the judges. Both of these guitarists are active instructors at infiniteguitar.com and I do not intend to advertise for that website. Obviously, putting their names on a video like that will immediately make people wonder "Hmmm, why would these guitarists be qualified judges?" and of course evoke an urge to learn more about them. Searching Rick Graham on Google, the third link displayed is from Infinite Guitar. People will check out his YouTube videos and also his lessons, and be blown away, and eventually subscribe to the website.

http://www.google.no/#hl=en&source=hp&...99f78b6effe3417

Now I am asking myself why GMC doesn't do the same thing, and after a long period of deep meditation I concluded with the following: I don't know.


How does this apply to GuitarMasterClass, and why am I writing all of this?

GMC is, as far as I know, a private "company" and needs customers to sustain the instructors and people running the site. There are many ways to make GMC a better place to learn guitar, but how does this quality matter if people do not take the risk to join in on the fun?

Advertisement or POPULARITY BOOST are keywords here.

As many of you may know, GMC has implemented a new tool called "Collaborations" which basically consists of one of the instructors handing out a backing track over which GMC members can record their solos. The collection of the takes will be mixed and posted as an audio file.


MY SUGGESTION (finally)

1. A sacrifice is made, in that the GMC community lets the outside community on YouTube download ONE backing track freely in a solo collaboration, just like we already do on GMC, but on YouTube with videos.

2. A video, like the one posted above, is made by somebody on GMC, who should get some form of credit for it. Every active instructor donates 5-10 seconds of recorded guitar-madness, and the sum of these videos will be mixed and we should get something like 2-3 minutes of very efficient advertisement, showing off our instructors.

3. Following the couple of minutes of show-off, we announce a video collaboration, where anybody can upload a 20-30 second take (according to the backing chosen) playing over the backing track.

4. The prizes are announced. Now I don't mean pedals and amps and guitars that we send around the world. I am talking about something virtually free, but very valuable.


PRIZES

TOP 10 guitar solos / melodies are chosen, mixed and posted on YouTube as a final mix / video collaboration.

All of these guitarists get a certain time period of FREE subscription on GMC. Maybe 3 months ? All they have to do in return is write something to advertise for GMC on their YouTube channel, and maybe add a referral link.

All other participants get a 50% discount for the first 3 months (an elite referral bonus, as I'd like to call it), given that they also add a referral link on their YouTube channel.



SUMMARY and RELATED SUGGESTIONS

This kind of collaboration will involve the outside world with what GMC is all about. First of all, they will have the opportunity to experience the great quality of backing tracks available on GMC. All participants will get a large price reduction on their first few months at GMC. GMC does not PAY for this, but can potentially earn a great deal knowing that many of these guitarists will want to stay.

GMC members will have a chance to prove their worth by taking the responsibility of editing and mixing the video, and could be given credit or a free subscription for a certain time period.

A "GMC Community" YouTube channel can be created, where GMC related events and videos will be posted. This will be GMC's official link to the outside world, much like Kristofer Dahl's channel. Every video collaboration that GMC organises will be posted on this channel, and YouTubers can get more views by taking part in these collaborations.

This video collaboration could be standardised and taken care of by a responsible member, and repeated once every month or second month. This is up to the management.

All in all, this is a win-win situation. GMC gets a largely increased popularity, and guitarists all over the world can become more famous, as well as become better musicians by experiencing the thrills GMC has to offer. If very capable musicians take part in this collaboration, then these could also be potential new instructors who can help improve GMC's learning community.



I hope this is somewhat comprehensible, and I look forward to reading more posts. Good luck to all other participants! smile.gif

Alexander


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I know the competition is closed, but I have some ideas that I'd like to get on the floor. I'll start posting tidbits from my notes here.

The Site liason
New users when they sign up should get an email with links describing the main features of the site and how to engage in it. If there is a REC program, then there needs to be a "this is what the REC program is, these are the people who head it up, this is where you go (<link>) to sign up, this is how you sign up and this is how you submit to it. The same goes for the MTP program.

But this in my opinion, is not enough. GMC needs to be pro-active in user retention. If there are 10,000 users registered in these forums, but only 60 members online at any one time, that tells me that users are losing interest for a reason. I'm going to assume several reasons.

1. pricing
2. confusion on how best to use the site
3. fall off the map because they aren't being encouraged the way they hoped they would be.

I've seen great ideas for pricing. If there are 500 guests every day who aren't signing up, then making lessons pay/per/download is going to be quick income for GMC that can be used for bolstering the concept I'm going to share next.

Instructors should act as site liasons. That is, when a new user signs up, that user should be assigned to an instructor, whose duty is to keep that person's interest by showing interest in that user. Interest would be in the following form.

"Welcome to the site! I will be your first point of contact for questions you may have concerning how to use this site and how to leverage all the great information on this site. I would like to see where you are at in terms of skill level, so if you are willing, let's get you set up with an introduction video that I'll help you create. This video will give me an idea of where you are at musically. It will also be your introduction on how to submit videos for critique. We have several programs, one of which is a mentor program where I help you find an instructor who will help you learn the genre you are intersted in, as well as any other topics you are interested in."

You get the gist. If GMC shows an active role in pursuing its users, and encouraging them pro-actively to engage the lessons, and ask questions, then they will feel like GMC has a vested interest in them, and they will feel wanted and valued as a member. It will break the ice, and mitigate confustion on "how do I enroll in any given program"? Who do I talk to, where do Post? How do I record? etc.

I think the concept of a GMC new user Liason would be a huge benefit to user retention, which is something I think GMC could use based on the feedback I've read in this thread so far.

I have some more ideas I'll post when I have time.

Christian A.

Hosting Collaborations on 3rd party sites for exposure

Sites like Indaba Music and Kompose all have home pages where they show off the latest collaborations. If GMC does its collaborations on these sites, and sets up the collaborations with a description detailing who the collaborators are "GMC students" and that the reason for the collaboration is not only to make music but to learn HOW to collaborate, and that the leader of the collaboration is a teacher, you'll find a lot of people drawn to GMC to be part of those collaborations because

1. A lot of people sign up for these collaboration sites because they have hopes of doing something, but *alot* fall off because they don't know how to participate.
2. A lot of people aren't skilled enough.

If GMC trains people both musically, but also shows them HOW to collaborate by virtue of doing their collaborations on these 3rd party sites, visitors of THOSE sites willl be exposed to GMC's professional approach at training people.

3rd party sites like indaba and kompose might even showcase GMC with a few contacts to their marketing or other insders - GMC would help them retain and get more people involved, and GMC would get exposure by being on their sites active withint their communities with no extra effort - you're just collaborating on their site flying the GMC flag so others can monitor what is going on.

christian A.

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QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Apr 25 2010, 11:53 PM) *
Wow man, this is a really good idea!

Thank you Daniel ! I just read the end of this thread, and I didn't realise somebody actually likes my idea smile.gif I'm sure you would be a great show-off instructor for GMC with your crazy shred-madness biggrin.gif ph34r.gif

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QUOTE (SirJamsalot @ May 10 2010, 08:07 PM) *
I know the competition is closed, but I have some ideas that I'd like to get on the floor. I'll start posting tidbits from my notes here.

The Site liason
New users when they sign up should get an email with links describing the main features of the site and how to engage in it. If there is a REC program, then there needs to be a "this is what the REC program is, these are the people who head it up, this is where you go (<link>) to sign up, this is how you sign up and this is how you submit to it. The same goes for the MTP program.

But this in my opinion, is not enough. GMC needs to be pro-active in user retention. If there are 10,000 users registered in these forums, but only 60 members online at any one time, that tells me that users are losing interest for a reason. I'm going to assume several reasons.

1. pricing
2. confusion on how best to use the site
3. fall off the map because they aren't being encouraged the way they hoped they would be.

I've seen great ideas for pricing. If there are 500 guests every day who aren't signing up, then making lessons pay/per/download is going to be quick income for GMC that can be used for bolstering the concept I'm going to share next.

Instructors should act as site liasons. That is, when a new user signs up, that user should be assigned to an instructor, whose duty is to keep that person's interest by showing interest in that user. Interest would be in the following form.

"Welcome to the site! I will be your first point of contact for questions you may have concerning how to use this site and how to leverage all the great information on this site. I would like to see where you are at in terms of skill level, so if you are willing, let's get you set up with an introduction video that I'll help you create. This video will give me an idea of where you are at musically. It will also be your introduction on how to submit videos for critique. We have several programs, one of which is a mentor program where I help you find an instructor who will help you learn the genre you are intersted in, as well as any other topics you are interested in."

You get the gist. If GMC shows an active role in pursuing its users, and encouraging them pro-actively to engage the lessons, and ask questions, then they will feel like GMC has a vested interest in them, and they will feel wanted and valued as a member. It will break the ice, and mitigate confustion on "how do I enroll in any given program"? Who do I talk to, where do Post? How do I record? etc.

I think the concept of a GMC new user Liason would be a huge benefit to user retention, which is something I think GMC could use based on the feedback I've read in this thread so far.

I have some more ideas I'll post when I have time.

Christian A.

Hosting Collaborations on 3rd party sites for exposure

Sites like Indaba Music and Kompose all have home pages where they show off the latest collaborations. If GMC does its collaborations on these sites, and sets up the collaborations with a description detailing who the collaborators are "GMC students" and that the reason for the collaboration is not only to make music but to learn HOW to collaborate, and that the leader of the collaboration is a teacher, you'll find a lot of people drawn to GMC to be part of those collaborations because

1. A lot of people sign up for these collaboration sites because they have hopes of doing something, but *alot* fall off because they don't know how to participate.
2. A lot of people aren't skilled enough.

If GMC trains people both musically, but also shows them HOW to collaborate by virtue of doing their collaborations on these 3rd party sites, visitors of THOSE sites willl be exposed to GMC's professional approach at training people.

3rd party sites like indaba and kompose might even showcase GMC with a few contacts to their marketing or other insders - GMC would help them retain and get more people involved, and GMC would get exposure by being on their sites active withint their communities with no extra effort - you're just collaborating on their site flying the GMC flag so others can monitor what is going on.

christian A.



I really like the idea of site liason and welcoming new members and guiding them. Also some email newsletters are always great resource. Those made me sign up for many things smile.gif))

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