Printable Version of Topic
Click here to view this topic in its original format
GMC Forum _ PRACTICE ROOM _ You Know That Cool Riff
Posted by: michaelwalker Apr 22 2012, 08:19 PM
I always to have a really cool but easy riff to play to impress people, anyone got one, you know teh one that always impressed you when a buddy's friend came over with him and played it and you said, man I wish I could do that?/
that's what I want, I learn scales but never seem to put together a cool riff of my own, anyone got any tabs to those cool riffs??
Which scale is the best, seems everyone is confusing me on this, G major, then a minor, then ??
I just want a really cool classic rock riff..
Posted by: Bossie Apr 22 2012, 08:53 PM
Maybe something like this .. 
Posted by: Dinaga Apr 22 2012, 08:53 PM
I almost always start my way off on rehearsals or gigs warming up with Iron Maiden's The Wicker Man or Deep Purple's Burn riff It's just simple and in your face 
I'd love to shoot all the metal riffs that come to my mind right now, but since you ask for classic rock, you can try Zeppelin's Black Dog... or Rainbow's Man on the Silver Mountain... Simple yet very very effective! 
Also, Bad to the Bone riff is pretty badass too
Actually, I found this site where you have lots of material to choose from
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_guitarriff.html
About scales... well, there isn't such thing as the 'best' scale 
There are scales which are used more than others, but that shouldn't limit you because you can always find a song in a different scale (key), so you should know how they are formed.
Without going too much in theory, I'll just say that when you know one major scale, you pretty much know all of the major scales because you just change the position of that scale. If you want more detail about that just let me know
And when you know one minor scale, you can quickly generate all of them! So, the good news are - you only need to learn 2 scales - major and minor scale, and you can play a HUGE number of songs
To make it even easier - There is a relationship between major and minor scales too! But I won't go into that for now, I'd just recommend you to check this out if you want to learn more about scales:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Beginners-Corner-13-C-Major-Scale/
Posted by: michaelwalker Apr 22 2012, 09:19 PM
Actually, I found this site where you have lots of material to choose from
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_guitarriff.html
About scales... well, there isn't such thing as the 'best' scale There are scales which are used more than others, but that shouldn't limit you because you can always find a song in a different scale (key), so you should know how they are formed.
Without going too much in theory, I'll just say that when you know one major scale, you pretty much know all of the major scales because you just change the position of that scale. If you want more detail about that just let me know
And when you know one minor scale, you can quickly generate all of them! So, the good news are - you only need to learn 2 scales - major and minor scale, and you can play a HUGE number of songs
I liek this idea only need to learn 2 scales, yes please tell me more...so far this is the best answer i ever got..
Posted by: Dinaga Apr 22 2012, 09:39 PM
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_guitarriff.html
About scales... well, there isn't such thing as the 'best' scale
There are scales which are used more than others, but that shouldn't limit you because you can always find a song in a different scale (key), so you should know how they are formed. Without going too much in theory, I'll just say that when you know one major scale, you pretty much know all of the major scales because you just change the position of that scale.
If you want more detail about that just let me know And when you know one minor scale, you can quickly generate all of them! So, the good news are - you only need to learn 2 scales - major and minor scale, and you can play a HUGE number of songs
I liek this idea only need to learn 2 scales, yes please tell me more...so far this is the best answer i ever got..
Well, there's much more to scales than this simplified view I posted, but for starters it will do fine
I made these two for you using GMC's scale generator.
This is the A major scale:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
This is the C major scale:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
Now tell me, do you notice any similarities?
See for yourself This is A minor scale:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
And this is C minor scale:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
Now compare the first two scales and tell me your observations
Then compare the last two scales and again, tell me what you noticed!
Posted by: michaelwalker Apr 22 2012, 10:42 PM
I made these two for you using GMC's scale generator.
This is the A major scale:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
This is the C major scale:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
Now tell me, do you notice any similarities?
See for yourself They are the same shapes different Fret locations is all
This is A minor scale:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
And this is C minor scale:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
Now compare the first two scales and tell me your observations
Then compare the last two scales and again, tell me what you noticed!And by the way the Scorpions is my Favorite Band...I have the original Animal Magnetism album from Germany...
Love your scorpions, it is my Dream to play their music..
Posted by: Dinaga Apr 22 2012, 11:13 PM
Yup, that's right
Now you know the major and minor scale! The next step is to learn more than just one shape!
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
Et cetera et cetera...
It's all same notes - the same C major scale, just in different positions.
After you practice the positions, at the end you should be able to connect everything and see the full picture:http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
You love Scorpions? Then check out Ben's lessons - lots of awesome Scorpions material there! With enough practice and dedication you can play 'em
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Ben-Higgins/
Posted by: michaelwalker Apr 22 2012, 11:18 PM
Now you know the major and minor scale! The next step is to learn more than just one shape!
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
Et cetera et cetera...
It's all same notes - the same C major scale, just in different positions.
After you practice the positions, at the end you should be able to connect everything and see the full picture:http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
You love Scorpions? Then check out Ben's lessons - lots of awesome Scorpions material there! With enough practice and dedication you can play 'em
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Ben-Higgins/
I think this is where I get lost, what do I do now..How do I make my own riff out of that..
Posted by: Dinaga Apr 23 2012, 12:34 AM
Well the simplest answer I can give on that is - play with the notes in the scale a combine them using different techniques. That's called phrasing.
It's not an easy task - but with time you'll be able to create better and better riffs. It's a matter of creativity, inspiration, musical knowledge and technique!You can also listen to music you like and try to find out how those riffs are formed, then try to apply those ideas.
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 23 2012, 06:18 AM
What about this one?
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 23 2012, 11:46 AM
I would go for this one 
The intro riff sounds incredibly powerful and optimistic!
Cosmin
Posted by: RobinDutchZHero Apr 23 2012, 12:13 PM
I keep checking this topic as well. Hmm... I might go with the Aerosmith clip and try that one! Cool!
Posted by: michaelwalker Apr 23 2012, 02:29 PM
The intro riff sounds incredibly powerful and optimistic!
Cosmin
Can't see it Cosmin, says not available in my Country LOl....can ya fix, I'm curious...
It's not an easy task - but with time you'll be able to create better and better riffs. It's a matter of creativity, inspiration, musical knowledge and technique!You can also listen to music you like and try to find out how those riffs are formed, then try to apply those ideas.
Ok, how bout a Small Riff using those 2 Scales, or one of them?? you got something maybe already made up or simple? an Example would be nice a Tab maybe ?
Thanks for all the help, i'm on it today with those 2 scales, then I got a small e book 99 Rock Riffs.. famous ones and will prqactice those they are like one liners so that should give me some ideas!
Any more awesome Riffs I like the Eat the Rich! and Sprint of the radio even though it Fast.. can't See Cosmin's Lol..so can't say much....lol
Posted by: Dinaga Apr 23 2012, 04:55 PM
OK mate, here it is. We'll be using the scale of E minor, in this position:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
And we're going to play Iron Maiden's Hallowed be Thy Name riff.
Here's the tab:
If you have Guitar Pro 5, then download the tab in attachment and try it out. If not, then download the midi so you can listen to the timing of the riff. Notice that the whole riff is entirely inside this E minor shape.
Iron_Maiden___Hallowed_Be_Thy_Name_riff.gp5 ( 3.82K )
: 120
Iron_Maiden___Hallowed_Be_Thy_Name_riff.mid ( 4.11K )
: 74Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 23 2012, 05:04 PM
Great! Aerosmith has really cool riffs.
Here you have other ideas:
Posted by: michaelwalker Apr 23 2012, 05:20 PM
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
And we're going to play Iron Maiden's Hallowed be Thy Name riff.
Here's the tab:
If you have Guitar Pro 5, then download the tab in attachment and try it out. If not, then download the midi so you can listen to the timing of the riff. Notice that the whole riff is entirely inside this E minor shape.
Ok awesome, I have GP 6 actually..it will work..Man I wish I knew what you did, it sucks starting out at 50, now i'm 51, it's just memory and patience for me, luckilyI am retired now thanks to my business I can practice everyday..if I want to..
Posted by: Dinaga Apr 23 2012, 05:25 PM
No problem mate, and don't worry
It's all about playing what you love, with enough work it will come!
Posted by: Bossie Apr 23 2012, 06:48 PM
You'll make it ..just go easy, try to relax when you learn riffs or licks...plenty of time to learn.
Age doesn't matter at all.... succes with it!
Posted by: Ben Higgins Apr 23 2012, 07:50 PM
Classic riffs you say ?
Long Live Rock n Roll by Rainbow ! 
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 23 2012, 08:11 PM
Sure thing man!
Posted by: Bossie Apr 23 2012, 08:37 PM
well since you are a true scorpions fan this is the ideal intro for you.. 
Posted by: Ben Higgins Apr 24 2012, 09:32 AM
Posted by: RobinDutchZHero Apr 24 2012, 01:02 PM
Oeh Yeah, Beat It from MJ
When I'm comfortale enough playing them, I will upload some of me playing it! Very nice, thanks for these tutorials!
Posted by: michaelwalker Apr 24 2012, 02:06 PM
Yeh the Scorps, Ben I have been learning from you with your lessons on the Scorps, my Favorite band..
in your lesson Scoprs Ry-them, I tried to stretch my Fingers index and little finger to do the 75 to 85 Power chords but I seemed to not get my fingers to stretch that far.. like they point inward and not straight, does that take practice to get them to go straight across the fret board, my fingers are average length not short but it makes them feel that way..
So I had to use my thumb to play that chord that goes from
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 24 2012, 02:43 PM
What a great song! It's been a while since I listened to it.
Posted by: Ben Higgins Apr 24 2012, 04:10 PM
in your lesson Scoprs Ry-them, I tried to stretch my Fingers index and little finger to do the 75 to 85 Power chords but I seemed to not get my fingers to stretch that far.. like they point inward and not straight, does that take practice to get them to go straight across the fret board, my fingers are average length not short but it makes them feel that way..
So I had to use my thumb to play that chord that goes from
Hi Michael, glad to hear you're enjoying the Scorps lessons ! They're a great band
It's quite normal for the fingers to point inwards.. even though my fingers may look straight, when they're stretched out to my limit then they start bending inwards too
It's a boring answer but the only way to train your hands to adapt to it is just by doing it regularly and slowly increasing the time that you hold your fingers in that position. It will probably start a burning sensation after holding your fingers in a stretch for a while so keep taking frequent pauses.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 25 2012, 07:30 AM
How about another classic?
Posted by: michaelwalker Apr 27 2012, 01:04 AM
I always loved this song...
Best Guitar solos ever with Acoustic..well one of the best lol...
Best Guitar solos ever with Acoustic..well one of the best lol...
ok how do you get the you tubes to show up??
Powered by Invision Power Board (http://www.invisionboard.com)
© Invision Power Services (http://www.invisionpower.com)