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Posted by: Francis Viviers Sep 3 2007, 08:03 PM

This is something i really struggle with. Whats the best way to appoach doing this ?

Posted by: Nick325 Sep 4 2007, 11:22 AM

i also have problems with this it seems to make my bend go out of tone

help us plz

Posted by: MickeM Sep 4 2007, 03:42 PM

Try this.

First bend to the note you're supposed to. Hold it for a ms or two and then apply vibrato. i think the key is to find the note before any bending vibrato takes place. The more accurate you get the quicker you'll be finding the note.

EDIT: Error, I exchanged "bending" with vidrato

Posted by: Francis Viviers Sep 4 2007, 04:23 PM

Yeah i know that. I can bend to pitch fine. Its just i cant get the vibrato part going

Posted by: Nick325 Sep 4 2007, 11:44 PM

same

Posted by: Bedlam Sep 5 2007, 12:02 AM

I'm having the same problem!

Posted by: MickeM Sep 5 2007, 12:03 AM

OOOOPS, I didn't notice this was the "Ask an instructor board" but though it was a general question.
Sorry for wasting your time guys!

Posted by: Nick325 Sep 5 2007, 12:12 AM

u didnt waste our time u tryed to help but we need marcus

Posted by: Francis Viviers Sep 5 2007, 04:49 PM

Haha yeah!

Posted by: blindwillie Sep 6 2007, 12:47 AM

Hahaha! I'm not alone now!

Posted by: shredmandan Sep 6 2007, 01:36 AM

I'm not Marcus
But i can give you my opinion.Nick you say your bends go out of tone.Thats because your bends must be presice to the exact note your going for.You should practice and really understand what 1/4 ,, 1/2 and 1full bends are.Example alot of times on these vibrato's you will be playing you will strike at 7th fret but after the bend you will be making it sound like your hitting the 9th fret.Thats a 1full bend .You have to practice it to get exact control when your vibrating it in and out that pitch. Maybe you get it if not im sure Marcus will be around before the day's over.

Posted by: lavendell Sep 6 2007, 03:21 AM

Some great advise from Shredmandan and MickeM here! Thanks!

This has been discussed on another thread, and this was basically what I answered there:

* Don’t press down the string too hard, you only need to press it hard enough that you don’t “drop” it. The harder you press it, the more tense you’ll be, and you’ll lose control over the string.

* Work on finger exercises (GripMaster or similar) to strengthen the muscles.

* If you bend the string with your ring finger – then of course it’s ok to place the index- and middle finger on the string as well, to support.

* Use a lighter string guage

Most important though is that you set your mind to how you want it to sound. Kind of like hearing the sound/vibrato "in your head"


-Marcus

Posted by: MickeM Sep 6 2007, 05:07 AM

lol I gladly share the shame with you.

Posted by: Eat-Sleep-andJam Sep 6 2007, 05:28 AM

Marcus and others made some great points here I struggled with this for awhile but I finally got it done after lots of practice.

One thing I suggest is to always have your thumb kind of over the neck and not in the back, It may be common since to most but I believe that without proper grip of the neck itself , you wont get the bends and the vibrato down.

And if your not getting it dont worry ! Great Vibrato comes with lots of time ! And a scalloped fretboard

Posted by: Ryan Sep 6 2007, 05:46 AM

What im wondering is. That do you use yoru wrist when doing bend vibrato, or your fingers??

Posted by: Nick325 Sep 6 2007, 06:45 AM

i no how to bend to tone but its seems like when i vibrato my bends it takes it out of tune



thanks for the tips marcus

Posted by: JVM Sep 6 2007, 07:06 AM

Thats because you need to vibrato above and below the bend mark, for example if you bend 7 to 9 as mentioned earlier, you need your vibrato to waver above and below the 9 (aka your vibrato needs to go beyond the normal bend). You probably already know that but just know that it takes a lot of finger strength to control it, so keep practicing.

Posted by: Francis Viviers Sep 7 2007, 02:42 PM

Seems like i have a new exercise to incorporate into my practice schedule ... I must say this is one of the trickiest techniques to get down. I always have my thumb over the neck nways as im not a shredder and play mostly blue type things.

Thanks for the great info guys!

Posted by: Nick325 Sep 12 2007, 07:52 AM

im getting it down now becuase i decided to try bending down not up and it helps