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Mrblomme View Member Profile	Jan 7 2008, 09:50 PM
Jan 7 2008, 09:50 PM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 884 Joined: 17-September 07 From: Adegem - Belgium	I dont see any dot on the 9th fret I think its more like from the 12th to the 15th You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Mrblomme: Jan 7 2008, 09:51 PM -------------------- Homer J. Simpson: Rockstars is there anything they dont know?

Muris Varajic View Member Profile	Jan 7 2008, 09:56 PM
Jan 7 2008, 09:56 PM	Instructor Posts: 15.459 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Sarajevo,Bosnia	QUOTE (Mrblomme @ Jan 7 2008, 09:50 PM) I dont see any dot on the 9th fret I think its more like from the 12th to the 15th It's now but if you move it 3 steps down than you'll have yellow dot on 9th fret on G string ,note E,root in E major pent. scale. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Youtube MySpace Website Album "Let It Out" on iTunes and CD Baby Check out my video lessons and instructor board! The Pianist tune is progress,check it out! "ok.. it is great.. :P have you myspace? Can i to personalize this for you guy?"

Mrblomme View Member Profile	Jan 7 2008, 10:01 PM
Jan 7 2008, 10:01 PM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 884 Joined: 17-September 07 From: Adegem - Belgium	Oh so in fact you have to move it UP your neck? I think I'm a bit wrong. I say up if you go from 10 to 5 and down if you go from 5 to 10 ... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Homer J. Simpson: Rockstars is there anything they dont know?

Muris Varajic View Member Profile	Jan 7 2008, 10:04 PM
Jan 7 2008, 10:04 PM	Instructor Posts: 15.459 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Sarajevo,Bosnia	It's DOWN 3 steps, down means lower, up means higher. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Youtube MySpace Website Album "Let It Out" on iTunes and CD Baby Check out my video lessons and instructor board! The Pianist tune is progress,check it out! "ok.. it is great.. :P have you myspace? Can i to personalize this for you guy?"

Mrblomme View Member Profile	Jan 7 2008, 10:05 PM
Jan 7 2008, 10:05 PM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 884 Joined: 17-September 07 From: Adegem - Belgium	Hehe ok I was wrong. Thx for the help Muris You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Homer J. Simpson: Rockstars is there anything they dont know?

Muris Varajic View Member Profile	Jan 7 2008, 10:18 PM
Jan 7 2008, 10:18 PM	Instructor Posts: 15.459 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Sarajevo,Bosnia	QUOTE (Mrblomme @ Jan 7 2008, 10:05 PM) Hehe ok I was wrong. Thx for the help Muris You're welcome. Hope you're not making the same mistake while using elevator You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Youtube MySpace Website Album "Let It Out" on iTunes and CD Baby Check out my video lessons and instructor board! The Pianist tune is progress,check it out! "ok.. it is great.. :P have you myspace? Can i to personalize this for you guy?"

Andrew Cockburn View Member Profile	Jan 7 2008, 10:20 PM
Jan 7 2008, 10:20 PM	Moderation Policy Director Posts: 10.459 Joined: 6-February 07 From: CT, USA	QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 7 2008, 04:18 PM) You're welcome. Hope you're not making the same mistake while using elevator Yay, go Muris, our very own escalator theory expert And thanks for helping out as well You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile Live long and prosper ... My Stuff: Electric Guitars : Ibanez Jem7v, Line6 Variax 700, Fender Plus Strat with 57/62 Pickups, Line6 Variax 705 Bass Acoustic Guitars : Taylor 816ce, Martin D-15, Line6 Variax Acoustic 300 Nylon Effects : Line6 Helix, Keeley Modded Boss DS1, Keeley Modded Boss BD2, Keeley 4 knob compressor, Keeley OxBlood Amps : Epiphone Valve Jnr & Head, Cockburn A.C.1, Cockburn A.C.2, Blackstar Club 50 Head & 4x12 Cab

Muris Varajic View Member Profile	Jan 7 2008, 10:36 PM
Jan 7 2008, 10:36 PM	Instructor Posts: 15.459 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Sarajevo,Bosnia	QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Jan 7 2008, 10:20 PM) Yay, go Muris, our very own escalator theory expert And thanks for helping out as well Thanks Andrew You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Youtube MySpace Website Album "Let It Out" on iTunes and CD Baby Check out my video lessons and instructor board! The Pianist tune is progress,check it out! "ok.. it is great.. :P have you myspace? Can i to personalize this for you guy?"

Mrblomme View Member Profile	Jan 7 2008, 11:22 PM
Jan 7 2008, 11:22 PM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 884 Joined: 17-September 07 From: Adegem - Belgium	QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 7 2008, 10:18 PM) You're welcome. Hope you're not making the same mistake while using elevator I feel stupid ... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Homer J. Simpson: Rockstars is there anything they dont know?

Muris Varajic View Member Profile	Jan 7 2008, 11:39 PM
Jan 7 2008, 11:39 PM	Instructor Posts: 15.459 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Sarajevo,Bosnia	QUOTE (Mrblomme @ Jan 7 2008, 11:22 PM) I feel stupid ... No need to,don't worry You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Youtube MySpace Website Album "Let It Out" on iTunes and CD Baby Check out my video lessons and instructor board! The Pianist tune is progress,check it out! "ok.. it is great.. :P have you myspace? Can i to personalize this for you guy?"

Casper View Member Profile	May 15 2008, 03:51 AM
May 15 2008, 03:51 AM	GMC:er Posts: 71 Joined: 14-May 08 From: Vancouver	So are Major Pentatonics the same as Minor Pentatonics just shoved down the line? because i noticed the minor pentatonic on A# has the same pattern as the major pentatonic starting on G You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars:EsP-LtD F-2E, Jackson King V, Fender Strat MFX: Pandora PX5D, Zoom 505. Sennheiser HD25 mk II Headphones Blown Amp :( My Album ( Guitars and FX )

Andrew Cockburn View Member Profile	May 15 2008, 12:58 PM
May 15 2008, 12:58 PM	Moderation Policy Director Posts: 10.459 Joined: 6-February 07 From: CT, USA	Yes, the patterns are the same offset by one, but this also changes the root note when you move form major to minor. For instance A Minor pentatonic box 2 is the same pattern as C Major pentatonic box 1, BUT the root notes are A and C respectively. In theory terms, this is because Major pentatonic is a Mode of the Moinor pentatonic scale. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile Live long and prosper ... My Stuff: Electric Guitars : Ibanez Jem7v, Line6 Variax 700, Fender Plus Strat with 57/62 Pickups, Line6 Variax 705 Bass Acoustic Guitars : Taylor 816ce, Martin D-15, Line6 Variax Acoustic 300 Nylon Effects : Line6 Helix, Keeley Modded Boss DS1, Keeley Modded Boss BD2, Keeley 4 knob compressor, Keeley OxBlood Amps : Epiphone Valve Jnr & Head, Cockburn A.C.1, Cockburn A.C.2, Blackstar Club 50 Head & 4x12 Cab

girard View Member Profile	May 17 2008, 05:50 PM
May 17 2008, 05:50 PM	GMC:er Posts: 5 Joined: 2-May 08 From: Ontario, Canada	Is the reason they "sound" different even though they are the same notes because your starting and finishing (and accenting) the root note. So when its an Am pent your completing your lick with an A and when its the C maj pent your completeting your lick with a C even though they arn't necessarily the lowest note in the box? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Andrew Cockburn View Member Profile	May 17 2008, 09:26 PM
May 17 2008, 09:26 PM	Moderation Policy Director Posts: 10.459 Joined: 6-February 07 From: CT, USA	Thats exactly right - and you have to train yourself to hear that root note even if it isn't there or you don't end your lick on it - in this case, perception is all important and you have to make sure you know that youare playing Am Pentatonic not C major pentatonic, and the reason you know is that ropot note, or the fact that you understand that is the root note in your head. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile Live long and prosper ... My Stuff: Electric Guitars : Ibanez Jem7v, Line6 Variax 700, Fender Plus Strat with 57/62 Pickups, Line6 Variax 705 Bass Acoustic Guitars : Taylor 816ce, Martin D-15, Line6 Variax Acoustic 300 Nylon Effects : Line6 Helix, Keeley Modded Boss DS1, Keeley Modded Boss BD2, Keeley 4 knob compressor, Keeley OxBlood Amps : Epiphone Valve Jnr & Head, Cockburn A.C.1, Cockburn A.C.2, Blackstar Club 50 Head & 4x12 Cab

MESHUGGAH View Member Profile	Jul 1 2008, 06:55 PM
Jul 1 2008, 06:55 PM	GMC:er Posts: 31 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Norway	What is the first box in major and in minor? The reason for my question is that my friend got this pattern from his guitar teacher: And said it was in e but I think its in G major -------------------------------0--3------------------------------ ------------------------0--3------------------------------------- -----------------0--2-------------------------------------------- ----------0--2-------------------------------------------------- --0--3----------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------3--5-------------------------- ------------------------------3--5-------------------------------------- -----------------------2--4--------------------------------------------- ----------------2--5---------------------------------------------------- --------2--5----------------------------------------------------------- -3--5-------------------------------------------------------------------- You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by MESHUGGAH: Jul 1 2008, 07:06 PM -------------------- -=Beginner=- Guitar: Epiphone les paul 100 Amp: Roland Microcube + Line6 Pocket Pod \|m\| Stay Metal \|m\|

kaznie_NL View Member Profile	Jul 1 2008, 07:15 PM
Jul 1 2008, 07:15 PM	Experienced Tone Seeker Posts: 4.809 Joined: 8-December 07 From: Hedel, Netherlands	QUOTE (MESHUGGAH @ Jul 1 2008, 07:55 PM) What is the first box in major and in minor? The reason for my question is that my friend got this pattern from his guitar teacher: And said it was in e but I think its in G major -------------------------------0--3------------------------------ ------------------------0--3------------------------------------- -----------------0--2-------------------------------------------- ----------0--2-------------------------------------------------- --0--3----------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------3--5-------------------------- ------------------------------3--5-------------------------------------- -----------------------2--4--------------------------------------------- ----------------2--5---------------------------------------------------- --------2--5----------------------------------------------------------- -3--5-------------------------------------------------------------------- The top pattern is Em or Gmaj. E is G's relative minor. The top one is also the first box of the Minor Pentatonic and bottom one is the second one. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by kaznie_NL: Jul 1 2008, 07:16 PM -------------------- My YouTube Channel Here My Rec Takes Here --- GEAR --- Ibanez SA08LTD2 BAR Vox AD50VT Pod Farm Line 6 Pod Studio GX El Cheapo Strat Dunlop Slide Korg Toneworks AX5G

MESHUGGAH View Member Profile	Jul 1 2008, 07:19 PM
Jul 1 2008, 07:19 PM	GMC:er Posts: 31 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Norway	but if i start with the secnd pattern it becomes Gmajor ? why??? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- -=Beginner=- Guitar: Epiphone les paul 100 Amp: Roland Microcube + Line6 Pocket Pod \|m\| Stay Metal \|m\|

DeepRoots View Member Profile	Jul 5 2008, 12:39 AM
Jul 5 2008, 12:39 AM	Get to da Chopper! Posts: 2.700 Joined: 18-March 07 From: South Wales, UK	QUOTE (MESHUGGAH @ Jul 1 2008, 07:19 PM) but if i start with the secnd pattern it becomes Gmajor ? why??? Here's food for thought: notes in E minor pentatonic: E G A B D notes in G major pentatonic: G A B D E So their patterns will be the same, because the notes are the same! Go ahead and find all the notes i said above on the fretboard for both scales and you'll find that they both share the same patterns. So whats the difference? When practising the scales: The difference is which note you decide to use as you root note, or "home" note. Using G as the root note will give a happier sound to the scale when compared to using E, this is because when using G as the root note we are implying that we are playing a G major pentatonic scale, and when we use E as the root note we are implying that we are playing E minor pentatonic scale. A good way to get this "root" idea in your head is by practising them starting and ending on either E or G, and compare the sound. When playing the scales: We could use the patterns over different chords, for example, over a G major chord it will sound happier than over a E minor chord. This is because the underlying chord implies what the root note of the scale is. Trying recording these notes, a looped E note for a few minutes, and also a G note for a few minutes. Use the same patterns and listen to the difference. Then try the same little exercise with an E minor and a G major chord. So as you can see- they share the same notes, and the same patterns, but it is the root note that is either implied by our melody (the note with the finished/home sound is the root note) or the underlying chords that decide which of the two scales it is. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Andrew Cockburn View Member Profile	Jul 6 2008, 02:28 PM
Jul 6 2008, 02:28 PM	Moderation Policy Director Posts: 10.459 Joined: 6-February 07 From: CT, USA	Couldn't have said it better myself You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile Live long and prosper ... My Stuff: Electric Guitars : Ibanez Jem7v, Line6 Variax 700, Fender Plus Strat with 57/62 Pickups, Line6 Variax 705 Bass Acoustic Guitars : Taylor 816ce, Martin D-15, Line6 Variax Acoustic 300 Nylon Effects : Line6 Helix, Keeley Modded Boss DS1, Keeley Modded Boss BD2, Keeley 4 knob compressor, Keeley OxBlood Amps : Epiphone Valve Jnr & Head, Cockburn A.C.1, Cockburn A.C.2, Blackstar Club 50 Head & 4x12 Cab

bryant View Member Profile	Sep 30 2013, 03:13 PM
Sep 30 2013, 03:13 PM	GMC:er Posts: 56 Joined: 20-March 08	QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Jul 15 2007, 12:12 AM) Correct, but don't look at it that way. You can reuse the patterns to save you learning new ones, but don't thik of them as being the same scale. For instance, C major pentatonic box 1 is the same pattern as A minor pentatonic box 2, but you can't compare them becuase one is in the key of C and the other is in the key of A minor (they are in fact modes of each other). Think in terms of the 2 different formulae or you won't fully understand the differece. Yes, I see. But once you are in the middle of the solo playing these five notes per say, the solo doesn't necessarily know which note you started on and CAN, in fact, be considered at any point in time in the key of Aminor OR C major, OR, D second box, etc. My ultimate question is then: HOW do we actually make the minor feel vary from the major feel once the solo is in progress and only those five notes are being played in various combinations. QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ May 17 2008, 09:26 PM) Thats exactly right - and you have to train yourself to hear that root note even if it isn't there or you don't end your lick on it - in this case, perception is all important and you have to make sure you know that youare playing Am Pentatonic not C major pentatonic, and the reason you know is that ropot note, or the fact that you understand that is the root note in your head. What's the best way to train yourself to hear and/or feel that root note? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

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