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 Sep 4 2009, 06:13 PM Post #1 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 8.109 Joined: 13-September 08 From: Nis, Serbia Member No.: 5.892 Hi Olle! This is place where I will give you assignments and upload videos. You will do the same starting tonight. Bookmark it, subscribe to it as it will be easier to follow when I post new things in! -------------------- My Video Lessons
 Sep 5 2009, 03:50 PM Post #3 GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 693 Joined: 14-June 07 From: Sweden Member No.: 2.086 I'm not sure if I understood it correctly but here's my shot.1) Db IonianWe have a couple of cadences here.Plagal Cadence would be IV - I -> Gb - DbPerfect Cadence would be V - I -> Ab(7) - DbImperfect Cadence would be any chord ending on V -> That would give us Db, Ebm, Fm, Gb, Ab(7), Bbm or Cm5 - Ab(7)Interrupted Cadence would be V - any other chord -> Ab(7) - Bbm per example.Now, we can use these cadences to build what ever chord progression we need/want.Imperfect Cadence + Perfect cadence would give us the popular IV V I. If we substitute the subdominant with it's minor parallell we would get the II V I. With the ending chord played twice as long as the other ones.2) F# DorianThe chords would be:I IV: F#min BbI IImin: F#min G#min3) C Phrygian We have the following cadences I - bIImaj and I - bVIImin.Cmin - DbmajCmin - BbminThe combination: Cmin - Dbmaj - Bbmin - Cmin4) G LydianWe have I - II and I - VIIminWhich yield: Gmaj - A & Gmaj - F#minThe combination: Gmaj - A - F#min - Gmaj5) F MixolydianWe have I bVII & I VminF - Ebmaj & F Cmin6) F# AeolianImin IVmin Vmin IminImin VI VII IminThis would give us:F#min Bmin C#min F#minF#min D# E# F#minLet's see if I got this right This post has been edited by Oxac: Sep 5 2009, 04:09 PM -------------------- Olle "AJ" Svensson
 Sep 5 2009, 04:17 PM Post #4 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 8.109 Joined: 13-September 08 From: Nis, Serbia Member No.: 5.892 Olle couple of corrections F# Dorian is F# min and B not Bb major. F# Aeolian cadence is F# minor D E F# minor. When I asked for cadences I didn't really want classical harmony but rather one cadence of your choice for each root. Now you can focus on picking one mode from the ones you did and create backing track with solo! -------------------- My Video Lessons
 Sep 5 2009, 04:25 PM Post #5 GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 693 Joined: 14-June 07 From: Sweden Member No.: 2.086 Yeh, I always get confused when writing VI and not bVI for aeolian... -------------------- Olle "AJ" Svensson
 Sep 5 2009, 04:28 PM Post #6 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 8.109 Joined: 13-September 08 From: Nis, Serbia Member No.: 5.892 Ok Olle, I am sure typo prevented you from getting it.Any questions regarding backing track and soloing? -------------------- My Video Lessons
 Sep 6 2009, 09:07 AM Post #7 GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 693 Joined: 14-June 07 From: Sweden Member No.: 2.086 Actually yeah. Since I should pick one mode, should I stick to it 100% or can I use chromatism and substitutions? i.e. I chose Ionian and play II V I, can I alter that to II bIIalt I? Just to spice things up.Or I chose Dorian and let the bass use a walk also containing chromatic passing notes.Can I solo with "out" notes? -------------------- Olle "AJ" Svensson
 Sep 6 2009, 10:13 AM Post #8 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 8.109 Joined: 13-September 08 From: Nis, Serbia Member No.: 5.892 All great questions Olle. I will cover all those approaches with you. Lets start first with simple cadence and soloing over it. If you choose Ionian, then II V I would be ideal. Pick a key and do basic Min7 Dom7 Maj7 voicings. Create a backing track (doesn't have to be long, you can loop voicings and bass line) and then you can solo over it. When it comes to soloing I want you to do different approaches :- One chorus of inside playing (just chord tones and passing scale notes)- One chorus of soloing with tensions - One chorus of outside playing (use chromatic approaches and reharmonized soloing)Pick a key of your choice! -------------------- My Video Lessons
 Sep 6 2009, 02:56 PM Post #9 GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 693 Joined: 14-June 07 From: Sweden Member No.: 2.086 Reharmonized soloing? Would that be something like soloing with the altered scale over the dominant chord? (pretending we substitute it with a tritone sub)? -------------------- Olle "AJ" Svensson
 Sep 6 2009, 04:44 PM Post #10 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 8.109 Joined: 13-September 08 From: Nis, Serbia Member No.: 5.892 Yes Olle but not just that. You can apply tritonic system soloing like Coltrane did for example. Anything that sounds to your ear like outside approach, do it. -------------------- My Video Lessons
 Sep 10 2009, 09:57 PM Post #11 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 8.109 Joined: 13-September 08 From: Nis, Serbia Member No.: 5.892 Olle when can I expect 3 choruses from you? Let me know if you need any help man ! -------------------- My Video Lessons
 Sep 13 2009, 07:15 AM Post #12 GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 693 Joined: 14-June 07 From: Sweden Member No.: 2.086 Later tonight actually I have 20 jazz standards that I've got to learn. That's why my absence has been so obvious, but today I have the whole day to do whatever I want -------------------- Olle "AJ" Svensson
 Sep 13 2009, 07:39 AM Post #13 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 8.109 Joined: 13-September 08 From: Nis, Serbia Member No.: 5.892 QUOTE (Oxac @ Sep 13 2009, 08:15 AM) Later tonight actually I have 20 jazz standards that I've got to learn. That's why my absence has been so obvious, but today I have the whole day to do whatever I want That is great to hear Olle, look forward to it! -------------------- My Video Lessons
 Sep 13 2009, 06:11 PM Post #14 GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 693 Joined: 14-June 07 From: Sweden Member No.: 2.086 Inside soloing with tensions (I think) Inside soloing with chord tones + outside soloing.-EDIT- I have a simple progression in B dorian. Bmin - E and coloured it up to nines, 13 sometimes. This post has been edited by Oxac: Sep 13 2009, 06:28 PM -------------------- Olle "AJ" Svensson
 Sep 13 2009, 07:16 PM Post #15 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 8.109 Joined: 13-September 08 From: Nis, Serbia Member No.: 5.892 Olle for first video I was just expecting soloing with tensions. So you could have done arpeggios containing 9 11 13 type sound or combination of them or just some of them. That was the intention. Second video is far better in my opinion and I like that you had a go at outside playing, it will get stronger in future I am sure. Try to record another video doing just soloing with tensions before we move on. -------------------- My Video Lessons
 Sep 13 2009, 10:28 PM Post #16 GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 693 Joined: 14-June 07 From: Sweden Member No.: 2.086 Ah, tensions exclusively, will do. It shouldn't take too long since I already have a backing. -------------------- Olle "AJ" Svensson
 Sep 14 2009, 12:59 AM Post #17 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 8.109 Joined: 13-September 08 From: Nis, Serbia Member No.: 5.892 Ok Olle, post it when you have it ready! -------------------- My Video Lessons
 Sep 17 2009, 11:57 AM Post #18 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 8.109 Joined: 13-September 08 From: Nis, Serbia Member No.: 5.892 Olle, I will be out of my town today, back tomorrow. I am expecting a video from you regarding soloing with tensions strictly. After we are done with that one we will move onto new assignment. Let me know if you need any help, Pedja -------------------- My Video Lessons
 Sep 18 2009, 01:12 PM Post #19 GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 693 Joined: 14-June 07 From: Sweden Member No.: 2.086 Yeah... Man, I can't make an interesting solo with only tensions, there's only three notes to use (9th 11th and 13th) and I get no release from them... Some Ideas or something similar to listen to would've been nice. -------------------- Olle "AJ" Svensson
 Sep 18 2009, 06:45 PM Post #20 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 8.109 Joined: 13-September 08 From: Nis, Serbia Member No.: 5.892 QUOTE (Oxac @ Sep 18 2009, 02:12 PM) Yeah... Man, I can't make an interesting solo with only tensions, there's only three notes to use (9th 11th and 13th) and I get no release from them... Some Ideas or something similar to listen to would've been nice.Send me your backing and I will record a take with just tensions to give you an idea of what I am looking for! -------------------- My Video Lessons

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