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Posted by: lcsdds Mar 18 2009, 01:34 AM

Any Apple Logic users here? What your thoughts on it? Thanks. smile.gif

Posted by: Emir Hot Mar 18 2009, 01:38 AM

I don't use it but I know many people that do. They are very happy with it. It has some nice plugins that come with the program. Basically it does the same job as any other industry standard recording software, just depends what you find the most comfortable for yourself.

Posted by: David Wallimann Mar 18 2009, 01:48 AM

I don't use it yet, but am considering switching completely to Logic.
I heard so many good things about it...

Posted by: lcsdds Mar 18 2009, 02:23 AM

Thanks for the info guys. Much appreciated. smile.gif


Posted by: Crazy_Diamond Mar 25 2009, 01:23 AM

I use Logic, my band singer lend me is macbook pro with Logic on it so I could experiment with it. I know nothing about recording but it seems that in my band I'm the one who know the more about recording. I haven't experimented with a lot of software but I really like Logic for now. The plug-in are fairly easy to use and it is fully compatible with all the line 6 products and all the midi keyboard.

I have found a lot of information about Logic in Youtube, I have watch a lot of tutorial. I also really like the drum machine that is include. Like I said I am really not an expert and there is plenty of functionality that I don't understand.

Posted by: David Wallimann Mar 25 2009, 02:13 AM

Jordan Rudess from Dream Theater uses it I know...

Posted by: audiopaal Mar 25 2009, 08:30 AM

I use it from time to time..
I work at a community house two nights a week helping kids who play in bands with various things..
Equipment, Logos, Posters, Websites etc.

We built a studio too, so the bands can record their demos for free smile.gif
We have a Mac and use Logic there, great program!
I like it a lot, but I'm a Cubase kind of guy so I'll stick to that at home for the time being..
But Logic works very well!

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Mar 30 2009, 06:07 PM

I never had a Mac but I have been using the PC version for some years. When they stoped supporting PC's I switched to Pro Tools, but back then I never had any problems with Logic.

Posted by: David Wallimann Apr 27 2009, 05:00 PM

Just got Logic Pro a few days ago.
I'm currently going through the tutorials and thick manual.
So far I absolutely love it!
Great interface and amazing softsynths included!

Posted by: lcsdds Apr 27 2009, 05:02 PM

QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Apr 27 2009, 05:00 PM) *
Just got Logic Pro a few days ago.
I'm currently going through the tutorials and thick manual.
So far I absolutely love it!
Great interface and amazing softsynths included!

David....what tutorials? I am trying to get up to speed on this myself. smile.gif What are you using as your interface?

Posted by: David Wallimann Apr 27 2009, 05:09 PM

QUOTE (lcsdds @ Apr 27 2009, 12:02 PM) *
David....what tutorials? I am trying to get up to speed on this myself. smile.gif What are you using as your interface?


I just started with the "getting started" pdf included in the Logic help file. It takes you through the basics.
As far as interface, I have an old midi keyboard and use Guitar Rig Session to record guitars.
Haven't started recording yet though, I want to know exactly what I'm doing first!
What computer are you on? Is it a Macbook?

Posted by: lcsdds Apr 27 2009, 05:13 PM

QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Apr 27 2009, 05:09 PM) *
I just started with the "getting started" pdf included in the Logic help file. It takes you through the basics.
As far as interface, I have an old midi keyboard and use Guitar Rig Session to record guitars.
Haven't started recording yet though, I want to know exactly what I'm doing first!
What computer are you on? Is it a Macbook?

I'm on a powermac G5. I'm using the Fastrack as my interface. Recording with my spider Amp at the moment but I want to get some modeling software.

Posted by: David Wallimann Apr 27 2009, 05:16 PM

Cool, what version of Logic are you using?
I'm using Logic Pro 8 and it comes with really cool guitar softwares in it.


Posted by: lcsdds Apr 27 2009, 05:18 PM

QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Apr 27 2009, 05:16 PM) *
Cool, what version of Logic are you using?
I'm using Logic Pro 8 and it comes with really cool guitar softwares in it.

Logic 8 pro.....you like the guitar software? I haven't had a chance to check it out yet. Maybe I'll hold off on modeling softeware just yet.

Posted by: David Wallimann Apr 27 2009, 05:58 PM

Yeah, they work great!

Posted by: lcsdds Apr 27 2009, 06:03 PM

QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Apr 27 2009, 05:58 PM) *
Yeah, they work great!

David....do you have the capability to make a video of what you are seeing on your computer screen? If you do I would love to talk you into helping me out with logic. I'll even buy you the program....it only costs like $35. I know you are a busy dude so if you can't do sweat it. smile.gif

Posted by: David Wallimann Apr 27 2009, 06:08 PM

No need to pay..
I would love to help, but right now my knowledge of Logic is non-existant!
I just got the software and read the first 5 pages of the manual...
Do you have the pdf files with the getting started?
If not, I'll be happy to send that to you...

Posted by: lcsdds Apr 27 2009, 06:19 PM

QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Apr 27 2009, 06:08 PM) *
No need to pay..
I would love to help, but right now my knowledge of Logic is non-existant!
I just got the software and read the first 5 pages of the manual...
Do you have the pdf files with the getting started?
If not, I'll be happy to send that to you...

I think I do have the pdf files. I'll check it out. Maybe when you become more familiar with it I'll hit you up. You at least know what you are wanting to do....I don't. You just have to figure out the mechanics in logic.....I on the other hand know ZERO about any of it. laugh.gif

Posted by: David Wallimann Apr 27 2009, 06:40 PM

Let's keep in touch for sure!

Posted by: lcsdds Apr 27 2009, 06:42 PM

QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Apr 27 2009, 06:40 PM) *
Let's keep in touch for sure!

Andy (wrk) has been helping me A LOT as well....hopefully between you two guys I might be able to record something someday. laugh.gif laugh.gif Thanks.

Posted by: David Wallimann Apr 27 2009, 06:44 PM

Is Andy a Logic user too?

Posted by: lcsdds Apr 27 2009, 06:52 PM

QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Apr 27 2009, 06:44 PM) *
Is Andy a Logic user too?

Yup!!! smile.gif

Posted by: David Wallimann Apr 27 2009, 07:10 PM

Cool!
I'll have to ask him questions too! :-)

Posted by: berko Apr 27 2009, 07:29 PM

Hey! Here's another Logic-newbie! laugh.gif

Yup, I switched to it a week or so ago... my last collab (the satriani one) was still done in Garageband but I felt in need of something more professional!

Monte, I know you also used garageband... logic has MANY similarities. You have the same Apple loops and all the tools that are available in the "Arrange" area are the same. The magic starts when you start mixing or creating your own midi stuff. What I really love is all those options that help you personalize the working interface... it seems kinda discouraging first because of its complexity but there are many stuff that you have to set for yourself only once.

I'm currently trying to mount Addictive drums. Btw ALL manuals are available under Help. There's a 1000 page long users manual, but beginner introduction and plug-in manuals are also available! The working interface seems very well organized, I once had a peep into ProTools and Logic beats that in many ways.

So if anybody in this thread has any problems maybe we could sort it out together... or if anyone has some cool tips we could share those too wink.gif

Posted by: David Wallimann Apr 27 2009, 07:41 PM

Awesome!
Yeah, I agree with you , Logic's interface is very cool!
I love the fact that it comes with all these cool softsynths!

Posted by: lcsdds Apr 27 2009, 07:47 PM

QUOTE (berko @ Apr 27 2009, 07:29 PM) *
Hey! Here's another Logic-newbie! laugh.gif

Yup, I switched to it a week or so ago... my last collab (the satriani one) was still done in Garageband but I felt in need of something more professional!

Monte, I know you also used garageband... logic has MANY similarities. You have the same Apple loops and all the tools that are available in the "Arrange" area are the same. The magic starts when you start mixing or creating your own midi stuff. What I really love is all those options that help you personalize the working interface... it seems kinda discouraging first because of its complexity but there are many stuff that you have to set for yourself only once.

I'm currently trying to mount Addictive drums. Btw ALL manuals are available under Help. There's a 1000 page long users manual, but beginner introduction and plug-in manuals are also available! The working interface seems very well organized, I once had a peep into ProTools and Logic beats that in many ways.

So if anybody in this thread has any problems maybe we could sort it out together... or if anyone has some cool tips we could share those too wink.gif

Thanks Berko....the more people I can bother the better. tongue.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: David Wallimann Apr 27 2009, 07:48 PM

Hahaha!
We should open up a Logic users hotline!

Posted by: berko Apr 27 2009, 07:53 PM

QUOTE (lcsdds @ Apr 27 2009, 08:47 PM) *
Thanks Berko....the more people I can bother the better. tongue.gif laugh.gif


Sure thing man! laugh.gif

QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Apr 27 2009, 08:48 PM) *
Hahaha!
We should open up a Logic users hotline!


That's right! Logic and Apple all the way biggrin.gif Hope we attract some other lurking Logic-useres here ph34r.gif

Posted by: lcsdds Apr 27 2009, 08:01 PM

I have a program called screenium....it allows me to make a video of what I am doing on my desktop on a mac. It would be cool if we all had it....it costs like $30. Just makes it easier to explain stuff by showing rather than telling. I have an iDisk account we could upload the vids too so whoever wanted them could get them. Just a thought. smile.gif

Posted by: berko Apr 27 2009, 10:08 PM

QUOTE (lcsdds @ Apr 27 2009, 09:01 PM) *
I have a program called screenium....it allows me to make a video of what I am doing on my desktop on a mac. It would be cool if we all had it....it costs like $30. Just makes it easier to explain stuff by showing rather than telling. I have an iDisk account we could upload the vids too so whoever wanted them could get them. Just a thought. smile.gif


Great idea! Especially because I have the program already... Btw a freeware version is available at the apple homepage. It only allows 30 sec long shots, but it can still be useful in the beginning for anyone who doesnt have it.... And with the built-in mic it's even more great

Posted by: David Wallimann Apr 27 2009, 11:00 PM

Cool idea!
I spent part of the afternoon trying to get my keyboard recognized and it would not work...
It's an old Evolution MK 249 midi controller.
It shows up in my Apple USB devices, but does not trigger any notes in Logic.
Any ideas?



Posted by: wrk Apr 27 2009, 11:07 PM

Nice to see some other Logic user here .. smile.gif

QUOTE (lcsdds @ Apr 27 2009, 09:01 PM) *
I have a program called screenium....it allows me to make a video of what I am doing on my desktop on a mac. It would be cool if we all had it....it costs like $30. Just makes it easier to explain stuff by showing rather than telling. I have an iDisk account we could upload the vids too so whoever wanted them could get them. Just a thought. smile.gif

Just tested this screenium app .. easy to use !! You can even activate the webcam. Main window is the screen view (Logic) and the webcam captures the guitar.. funny. I just didn't manage to record the playback sound from logic .. any ideas for this? I could use a mic in front of my monitors, but the sound will be crappy and ... as i mainly play at night .. chances are quite high that my girlfriend will appear in the little webcam view and knock me out live on camera .. laugh.gif


Posted by: berko Apr 27 2009, 11:15 PM

QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Apr 28 2009, 12:00 AM) *
Cool idea!
I spent part of the afternoon trying to get my keyboard recognized and it would not work...
It's an old Evolution MK 249 midi controller.
It shows up in my Apple USB devices, but does not trigger any notes in Logic.
Any ideas?


Maybe someone else will answer this better than me. So is the keyboard set as a default input in the "Audio Midi Setup"?
In Logic, click Preferences, then Control Surfaces, then Setup. You can scan for the device there!

Do you want to control the plugins etc. with the controller? Or do you have an external midi interface for it to use its samples and effects?

Posted by: lcsdds Apr 27 2009, 11:15 PM

QUOTE (wrk @ Apr 27 2009, 11:07 PM) *
Nice to see some other Logic user here .. smile.gif


chances are quite high that my girlfriend will appear in the little webcam view and knock me out live on camera .. laugh.gif

I for one wouldn't mind seeing that Andy. ohmy.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: berko Apr 27 2009, 11:23 PM

QUOTE (wrk @ Apr 28 2009, 12:07 AM) *
Nice to see some other Logic user here .. smile.gif


Just tested this screenium app .. easy to use !! You can even activate the webcam. Main window is the screen view (Logic) and the webcam captures the guitar.. funny. I just didn't manage to record the playback sound from logic .. any ideas for this? I could use a mic in front of my monitors, but the sound will be crappy and ... as i mainly play at night .. chances are quite high that my girlfriend will appear in the little webcam view and knock me out live on camera .. laugh.gif


Are you using the built-in camera for a Mac? Or a separate webcam? I can't locate my built-in one for screenium... I'll have to mess with my panasonic then mellow.gif

Posted by: wrk Apr 27 2009, 11:34 PM

QUOTE (lcsdds @ Apr 28 2009, 12:15 AM) *
I for one wouldn't mind seeing that Andy. ohmy.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif


laugh.giflaugh.gif ... not going to happen. I just figured it out. I have connected the speaker line-out of my sound card to the line-in of the mac and use this input as sound device for the screenium.



QUOTE (berko @ Apr 28 2009, 12:23 AM) *
Are you using the built-in camera for a Mac? Or a separate webcam? I can't locate my built-in one for screenium... I'll have to mess with my panasonic then mellow.gif


I used the build-in camera from my laptop, but just connected the miniDV camera (FireWire) which i normally use and it shows up in the pulldown menu. What kind of mac you have?


Posted by: lcsdds May 13 2009, 03:59 PM

Found this site for tutorials on how to use the various recording programs. Got the tutorial for logic....the pro bundle for like $80. Watched the first couple last night.......very well done. For anybody who is a NOOB like myself to using a DAW, this might be a good investment.

http://www.digitalmusicdoctor.com/

Posted by: berko May 13 2009, 04:02 PM

QUOTE (lcsdds @ May 13 2009, 04:59 PM) *
Found this site for tutorials on how to use the various recording programs. Got the tutorial for logic....the pro bundle for like $80. Watched the first couple last night.......very well done. For anybody who is a NOOB like myself to using a DAW, this might be a good investment.

http://www.digitalmusicdoctor.com/


Thanks man for the link. I'm getting warmed up now but I still consider myself a complete noob. There's so much stuff to do with this program, the manual is like 1000 pages long....

Posted by: lcsdds May 13 2009, 04:05 PM

QUOTE (berko @ May 13 2009, 04:02 PM) *
Thanks man for the link. I'm getting warmed up now but I still consider myself a complete noob. There's so much stuff to do with this program, the manual is like 1000 pages long....

Just watching the "grand tour" video last night really cleared up a lot of things for me. This should help me A LOT....although I can see it is gonna take quite a bit of time. I'm gonna have to treat it like a class. Sit down and watch the movies and then try and do it myself. I do so much better being shown things than I do reading about them. I usually just get frustrated and move on. It's amazing I've stuck with guitar all these years....especially learning on my own. Shows the depths or my addiction.... laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: wrk May 14 2009, 11:47 AM

Video tutorials are great for to learn new applications. I use them a lot for other software i need for work. Manuals are always in the 1000 pages range .. who is writing all that stuff ? ... laugh.gif

Monte, can you please give some feedback, if these tutorials explain some practical workflows as well or is it just an explanation of each tool, button, etc ... ?

I found this Logic youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/SFLogicNinja
Some are interesting and i found them quite useful.


Posted by: lcsdds May 14 2009, 12:49 PM

I'll give a review after I have gone through them. I have only gone through the grand tour video. I am going to watch the audio video next. It looks like they are going to go over some useful workflows though. They start by going over an example project and then taking that project from intilal tracking all the way through mastering....at least that is what it looks like is gonna happen. I'll give a full review when I am done with the tutorials. smile.gif

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