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post Nov 25 2009, 10:32 PM
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The Dark Fire, a refinement of the robot series, with built in multiple tunings and tones.

http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-G...A/DarkFire.aspx


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post Nov 25 2009, 10:36 PM
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Wow guitar looks great and it comes with some sort of recording interface from Gibson! smile.gif
I really like the "robot" tuning technology! Its a real advancement and pretty useful tool to have installed! smile.gif


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post Nov 25 2009, 10:41 PM
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Apparently it can do some rather drastic drop tunings. I wonder how they accomplish that physically without changing string gauge, truss rod tension, etc.

It comes with Ableton and Guitar Rig 3. Price is around $3500.


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post Nov 25 2009, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE (jdriver @ Nov 25 2009, 10:41 PM) *
Apparently it can do some rather drastic drop tunings. I wonder how they accomplish that physically without changing string gauge, truss rod tension, etc.

It comes with Ableton and Guitar Rig 3. Price is around $3500.


I don't know how they do it. I guess all tunings are programmed but you need to have proper gauge strings for it to actually work in practice smile.gif

Its a nice package/price for a robot gibson I guess...


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post Nov 25 2009, 11:17 PM
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It actually can self intonate!

The DARK FIRE is out for a while now, Gibson is coming up with the next step in *revolutionary* guitar design and technology... god the CEOs will ruin my favourite company!!

I present to you, the Gibson DUSK TIGER:

http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Feat...son-dusk-tiger/

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/84790


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that is crazy! you could even use the auto tuning in the middle of a song,


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post Dec 1 2009, 06:52 PM
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The tuners work flawless, I used them live and in the studio already, it is amazing what tronical invented here.


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After many threads about dark fire/robot guitars, I have to ask, is it good for a guitar to constantly change tunings from standard to drop D to half step down etc etc.?

I was talking with the guys at my local shop the other day and they told me I shouldn't be changing tunings all the time on my SG as it affects the neck set-up etc.

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Hmmm, I dont really see Gibson as innovators in this area, since Piezo-mics has been around in years from other manufactorers. The tune function is however kinda cool, even that I would personally have different guitars for different purposes instead. The intonation/autotune seems also a little obscure, since a guitar without a trem does'nt normally face the latter problem at least.... Also, I dont think its a good idea to have that much technique "onboard" - it will be harder to do future updates and the instrument itself will become obsolete....
Otherwise, I'ts good to see that Gibson tries to be innovative and not just stays on old fame and their regular models. But personally I prefer my LP Standard instead.... smile.gif

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post Dec 1 2009, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Dec 1 2009, 10:52 AM) *
The tuners work flawless, I used them live and in the studio already, it is amazing what tronical invented here.


Marcus,

You were exactly the person I thought of when I saw this. I wondered if you could make use of them for performing. Thanks for reading my mind. wink.gif

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post Dec 4 2009, 09:57 PM
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The big advantage of the tronical system (those tuners) is that also on stage you can be sure that for every song your guitar is perfectly in tune. Tuning takes about 2 seconds (!!!), I never tried it but in theory you could even retune your guitar in a short drumbreak or something like that wink.gif Personally I am not using many different tunings, the BG standard tuning is E-Flat, but I love playing around with different tunings when looking for new ideas, cause a different tuning forces you to leave your routine behind, chords are different, scales are different, you don't use the regular stuff over and over again like that. And with a system like that you can change to a drop d tuning for example in a few seconds, which is pretty confortable. Also in the studio it can save you a lot of time. Normally I check my tuning every couple of takes, with this system you can check it all the time, it will only cost you 2 seconds.


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Thanks for that info, Marcus. As I neither play in the studio, or live, I've often wanted those tuners just to relieve the hassle of continuously tuning my guitar. Obviously a luxury, but....so? wink.gif


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