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GMC Forum _ Gabriel Leopardi _ E Pentatonic Creation

Posted by: richgrafx Aug 27 2007, 06:31 AM

After learning your Pentatonic Rock lesson, I thought I would try to compose something in E Pentatonic. It's short and not too sweet but it's a start.

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Posted by: JVM Aug 27 2007, 06:36 AM

Sounds really good! I like your riff, it reminds me of like a bruce springsteen thing or something. Maybe the lead part is a little too loud, but I really like it.

Posted by: richgrafx Aug 27 2007, 06:39 AM

QUOTE (JVM @ Aug 27 2007, 01:36 AM) *
Sounds really good! I like your riff, it reminds me of like a bruce springsteen thing or something. Maybe the lead part is a little too loud, but I really like it.



My recording skills are extremely lacking. I am going to lower the volume on the lead and repost. Thanks for the advice.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 27 2007, 09:41 AM

QUOTE (richgrafx @ Aug 27 2007, 02:39 AM) *
My recording skills are extremely lacking. I am going to lower the volume on the lead and repost. Thanks for the advice.



Great job! Please upload the new mix and I tell you some tips about this idea.

gabriel.-

Posted by: richgrafx Aug 27 2007, 09:46 AM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 27 2007, 04:41 AM) *
Great job! Please upload the new mix and I tell you some tips about this idea.

gabriel.-


Hey Gabriel. I actually already posted the revised version. I just replaced the first version that I posted.

I am currently using a Line6 Toneport to connect my quitar into Acid Pro. I have no concept of mixing and mastering.

Posted by: JVM Aug 27 2007, 10:02 AM

Sounds better to me! Not to be nitpicky but you were slightly off beat at one point in the intro, which is a pretty important part tongue.gif It's a cool riff though.

Posted by: richgrafx Aug 27 2007, 11:15 AM

QUOTE (JVM @ Aug 27 2007, 05:02 AM) *
Sounds better to me! Not to be nitpicky but you were slightly off beat at one point in the intro, which is a pretty important part tongue.gif It's a cool riff though.


The pickier the better. I just did version 3 and replaced my first post. Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment.

I am hoping that Gabriel is going to give me some tips on composition and recording. His lessons are the main reason that I joined this site and I must say that it was money well spent.

Posted by: kahall Aug 27 2007, 11:27 AM

Since it is better than I am able to play at this point, I have no advice, but I like it. And I did listen to the first one earlier and the last one does sound more polished. I would go ahead and finish it.

Posted by: JVM Aug 27 2007, 11:43 AM

It sounds better every time smile.gif

What it really needs is some bass now.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 28 2007, 04:10 AM

I really like the intro riff! I think that it would sound better if you add 3 points to the tempo (just a suggestion smile.gif )

Well, I think that you should continue this idea and create a song!

gabriel.-

pd: What mic and soft are you using to record it? The lead guitar seams to has been recorded directly conected from the amp to line in.

Posted by: richgrafx Aug 30 2007, 01:24 AM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 27 2007, 11:10 PM) *
I really like the intro riff! I think that it would sound better if you add 3 points to the tempo (just a suggestion smile.gif )

Well, I think that you should continue this idea and create a song!

gabriel.-

pd: What mic and soft are you using to record it? The lead guitar seams to has been recorded directly conected from the amp to line in.


I use a Line6 Toneport to connect my quitar via usb into Line6 Gearbox (mic/amp sim). I record using Acid Pro.

I will rerecord with your recommended faster tempo and I will use a different Gearbox sim for the solo.

Concerning creating a song, do you have a suggested chord progression that you feel would work as a chorus or bridge?

Thanks for your time,
Rich

Posted by: Iluha Aug 30 2007, 02:40 AM

QUOTE (richgrafx @ Aug 30 2007, 02:24 AM) *
I use a Line6 Toneport to connect my quitar via usb into Line6 Gearbox (mic/amp sim). I record using Acid Pro.

I will rerecord with your recommended faster tempo and I will use a different Gearbox sim for the solo.

Concerning creating a song, do you have a suggested chord progression that you feel would work as a chorus or bridge?

Thanks for your time,
Rich


I have a suggestion for a chord progression for the chorus, rather simple but it should work smile.gif, basiclly it's C, D, Em, G(all In power chord form)

Ok now I got a diffrent suggestion for the chorus. I think it's better, so it's B, A, B, E, B, A, B, E(but an octave higher), and avecourse all basic power chords.

Posted by: richgrafx Aug 30 2007, 06:56 AM

QUOTE (Iluha @ Aug 29 2007, 09:40 PM) *
I have a suggestion for a chord progression for the chorus, rather simple but it should work smile.gif, basiclly it's C, D, Em, G(all In power chord form)

Ok now I got a diffrent suggestion for the chorus. I think it's better, so it's B, A, B, E, B, A, B, E(but an octave higher), and avecourse all basic power chords.


I like the BABE progression but when I tried to make it fit in with the existing I found myself making a slight change. I am posting a mp3 of my midi file with the new arrangement before I rerecord. Let me know what you think.

Thanks for the response.

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Posted by: JVM Sep 2 2007, 04:23 AM

Are you still going to record this?

Posted by: richgrafx Sep 2 2007, 10:44 AM

QUOTE (JVM @ Sep 1 2007, 11:23 PM) *
Are you still going to record this?


It's been a bad week. Had a coworker pass away this week and the funeral was today. Finally sat down tonight to record and within 5 minutes I pop my A string. blink.gif Now I just spent 20 minutes looking through my junk and I have no strings on hand. mad.gif I will reload and try again tomorrow if the guitar shop here is open on sunday.

Posted by: Nick325 Sep 2 2007, 10:51 AM

QUOTE (richgrafx @ Sep 2 2007, 05:44 AM) *
It's been a bad week. Had a coworker pass away this week and the funeral was today.


sorry to hear that sad.gif

Posted by: richgrafx Sep 2 2007, 11:15 AM

QUOTE (Nick325 @ Sep 2 2007, 05:51 AM) *
sorry to hear that sad.gif


Thanks Nick. She was a brutally honest person and a hard worker. She treated everyone with respect and everyone respected her. As per her request, the funeral was a celebration of life. It was her parting gift.

Posted by: symon Sep 2 2007, 11:18 AM

wow i really like this tune very catchy maybe you could dedicate it to your co worker to celebrate her glorious life
sending you love and light symon

Posted by: richgrafx Sep 2 2007, 11:26 AM

Thanks Symon, that is an excellent idea. My only concern is that the piece does not do her justice.

Posted by: symon Sep 2 2007, 07:12 PM

QUOTE (richgrafx @ Sep 2 2007, 08:26 PM) *
Thanks Symon, that is an excellent idea. My only concern is that the piece does not do her justice.

i am sure that when you are finished it will
love and light symon

Posted by: richgrafx Sep 3 2007, 06:33 AM

I just completed my rerecord. I appreciate the tips provided by everybody. I hope it is alright if I post it on the recording forum as well as here.

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Posted by: Nick325 Sep 3 2007, 06:36 AM

nice job what did u use for the drums? and did u use bass?

Posted by: richgrafx Sep 3 2007, 06:39 AM

QUOTE (Nick325 @ Sep 3 2007, 01:36 AM) *
nice job what did u use for the drums? and did u use bass?


I did the bass and drums in guitar pro. I no very little about either so the drum is just a standard 8 beat and the bass did little more than use the root or octave to follow the bass drum. Hopefully my mix reveals some hint of the bass.

Posted by: Nick325 Sep 3 2007, 07:01 AM

ok

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 4 2007, 12:11 AM

Hey Man! Good job. The guitar sound is better now! The lead guitar sound in the sytle of Satriani smile.gif
I really like the idea. I'll will tell you some suggestions:
Talking about the music I would add some lead guitar hamonizations (thirds, octaves, etc) in the chorus.
Talking about mixing: The bass is a bit high and the rhymic guitar too. The lead guitar should be louder.


GOOD JOB!

gabriel

Posted by: richgrafx Sep 5 2007, 07:22 AM

Hi Gabriel,

I took your advice and added some harmonizations in 3rds but I have messed with the mix so much that I am sick of hearing this thing. Any chance you could do a video demo of recording/mixing/mastering tips?

I think I am going to walk away from this thing for a while.

Thanks again,
Rich

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