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Posted by: Chris Evans Feb 19 2010, 04:04 PM

ok, as the topic title says here is the thread to get your sign ups in for the MTP in March.

as requested by a couple of members I have asked on the Instructor boards for all Instructors willing to take part in the next MTP to reply so this time we have a list of available Instructors for you to choose from.


Instructors available are as follows :

Ivan Milenkovic
Gabriel Leopardi
Adrian Figallo
Daniel Realpe
Emir Hot
Pedja Simovic
Bogdan Radovic
Luciana Segovia (Vocal MTP)
Jerry Arcidiacono
Lian Gerbino
Laszlo Boross
Ramiro Delforte
Gerardo Siere


As last time there is no requirement for you to post a video of your playing or any detail of your goals etc, just register yourself with your chosen Instructor (from the above list) in this thread.

**please be aware that you must be able to record yourselves both for video and audio in order for your mentor to help you, if you cannot provide either you will not be able to continue your MTP**


[b]Important Changes for this and future phases of the MTP
[/b]

This will of course (as all changes) may well not prove too popular to begin with but in order for the MTP to remain in its current form we have had to introduce this change.

The MTP runs on a three month cycle, every three months we open a sign up thread for members to assign themselves to a participating instructor, so far members already assigned to an Instructor have been able to continue into the next quarter or at this point change to another instructor if they so wish.

For now and future phases this will no longer be the case, members will no longer be able to continue on or change to another Instructor at these points, however, after a three month break they will be able to sign up again.

So to simplify it will be a three months on and three months off rotation.

I appreciate this will not be popular but we have had to do this to allow everyone the chance and oppotunity to be involved with the program, it may well be that this may change in the future but for now this is the only way we can keep the MTP exsisting.

Many thanks for your patients and understanding.

smile.gif

Posted by: GrindGuer Feb 19 2010, 04:23 PM

Hi everyone. I'd like to try the MTP program with Emir Hot, for I've watch a lot of his videos when he was working with some students on the previous MTP cycle. I like a lot of different styles, and neoclassical is one of them. But most of all, I wish to improve my knowledge of the guitar board and learn how to use scales.
Cheers ! smile.gif

Posted by: Gus Feb 19 2010, 04:36 PM

I've been off MTP since November, so I guess this is time then to come back, after 3 months break.

I would like to start again with Emir Hot.

If possible I would like also to start singing MTP with Luciana (though guitar is priority if I can only keep one).

Posted by: maharzan Feb 19 2010, 04:58 PM

oops.. so that means I cannot continue? I was with Emir Hot but it just ran for 1 month. sad.gif

Posted by: loundzilla Feb 19 2010, 05:03 PM

I would love to take part in Marches MTP.

I'd like either Emir, Pedja or Ivan (although i'm sure all instructors are equally as awesome).

Cheers smile.gif

Posted by: Crazy_Diamond Feb 19 2010, 05:34 PM

This is some bad news Chris but I understand..... My MTP was going pretty well with Gabriel ..... I will sure apply in the next run ....

Posted by: JVM Feb 19 2010, 05:46 PM

That is sad news, but understandable. I have learned so much from Pedja so far, but this three months will be a good opportunity to practice and expand on what he has taught me, give me a solid foundation for the next phase.

Posted by: Ruzz Feb 19 2010, 05:47 PM

It says that this counts from now and every future phase of MTP..
I think this means that those of us who were in the MTP the last few months are able to sign up again right?..

Posted by: Chris Evans Feb 19 2010, 06:05 PM

QUOTE (Ruzz @ Feb 19 2010, 04:47 PM) *
It says that this counts from now and every future phase of MTP..
I think this means that those of us who were in the MTP the last few months are able to sign up again right?..


unfortunatly not mate, starting from now means the new rule is effective from this new phase starting in March.

Posted by: Fusar Feb 19 2010, 06:13 PM

Hi, I'm in and wanna be taught by Ivan smile.gif the last time I took part in the MTP wasn't that great (ofc because of me!), but I think now I've got a better plan of what guitar practising means and which techniques I need to learn smile.gif

Posted by: Ruzz Feb 19 2010, 06:17 PM

QUOTE (Chris Evans @ Feb 19 2010, 06:05 PM) *
unfortunatly not mate, starting from now means the new rule is effective from this new phase starting in March.


Damn.. I only had one assignment with Emir before he dropped the MTP..

Posted by: Staffy Feb 19 2010, 06:41 PM

Hmmm, this is kinda bad news, even that I clearly understand the situation here. The good news for me is that I have been out of the MTP for three months already. I don't consider this to be really fair imo. since many of the students doesn't complete their assignments/fulfilling the MTP - hence, leaving people out from the MTP that would have done so. In my last MTP with Ivan for an example, it was only me and one more that completed the MTP (was it You Kaz, cant remember...). Couldn't the MTP be done with some sort of "stand-by" list for people that have been involved before and succeeded with their missions??? (since a lot of people seems to drop-off already in the first month)

//Staffay

EDIT: Oh, I forgot, I had a great MTP with Ivan, but this time I would prefer Pedja or Emir if possible, otherwise I will be happy to stay with Ivan!

Posted by: maharzan Feb 19 2010, 07:30 PM

not a suggestion or anything but was thinking it would have been fairer if people who had completed all assignments be able to continue but if they didn't, they drop out and others be able to take over. I am sure hardly 2-3 people have completed all assignments / REC takes... most just drop out or get busy on their own stuff.

anyway, looks like i'll have to be on my own now. had hopes i could continue.

Posted by: GrindGuer Feb 19 2010, 09:22 PM

QUOTE (maharzan @ Feb 19 2010, 07:30 PM) *
not a suggestion or anything but was thinking it would have been fairer if people who had completed all assignments be able to continue but if they didn't, they drop out and others be able to take over. I am sure hardly 2-3 people have completed all assignments / REC takes... most just drop out or get busy on their own stuff.

I do agree with this point of view. Not that I am concerned, but if there really is a few people doing all their "homework", why make them stop the MTP.
My 2 cents... smile.gif

Posted by: zen Feb 19 2010, 10:56 PM

Oh no mad.gif mad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

This is understandable but the committed students who have shown good work ethic in the past should be included in there.
All the very best to the new batch.
Vocal mtp has inconsistent rules, so I suggest reviewing those before signing up the new batch for it.

Now if you all can excuse me, I gotta go hit somethin ph34r.gif

Posted by: Sensible Jones Feb 19 2010, 11:03 PM

Chris, I'd like to sign up with Ivan if it's at all possible. Only thing is that I still don't have Video facility right at this moment but will hopefully be rectifying that situation in the next week or two! If this rules me out then that's fine as I'll definitely be sorted for the next round in June!
biggrin.gif

Posted by: ruben_mcn Feb 19 2010, 11:24 PM

Hi , the past months i had mtp w/ pedja it was really great but for the next mtp cycle i would like to try it w/ Emir Hot or Daniel Realpe.. or continue w/ Pedja smile.gif.. or learn how to improvise w/ Ramiro or IVan ...

Posted by: iamblackmo Feb 20 2010, 12:44 AM

QUOTE (Chris Evans @ Feb 19 2010, 10:04 AM) *
ok, as the topic title says here is the thread to get your sign ups in for the MTP in March.

as requested by a couple of members I have asked on the Instructor boards for all Instructors willing to take part in the next MTP to reply so this time we have a list of available Instructors for you to choose from.


Instructors available are as follows :

Ivan Milenkovic
Gabriel Leopardi
Adrian Figallo
Daniel Realpe
Emir Hot
Pedja Simovic
Bogdan Radovic
Luciana Segovia (Vocal MTP)
Jerry Arcidiacono
Lian Gerbino
Laszlo Boross


As last time there is no requirement for you to post a video of your playing or any detail of your goals etc, just register yourself with your chosen Instructor (from the above list) in this thread.

**please be aware that you must be able to record yourselves both for video and audio in order for your mentor to help you, if you cannot provide either you will not be able to continue your MTP**


[b]Important Changes for this and future phases of the MTP
[/b]

This will of course (as all changes) may well not prove too popular to begin with but in order for the MTP to remain in its current form we have had to introduce this change.

The MTP runs on a three month cycle, every three months we open a sign up thread for members to assign themselves to a participating instructor, so far members already assigned to an Instructor have been able to continue into the next quarter or at this point change to another instructor if they so wish.

For now and future phases this will no longer be the case, members will no longer be able to continue on or change to another Instructor at these points, however, after a three month break they will be able to sign up again.

So to simplify it will be a three months on and three months off rotation.

I appreciate this will not be popular but we have had to do this to allow everyone the chance and oppotunity to be involved with the program, it may well be that this may change in the future but for now this is the only way we can keep the MTP exsisting.

Many thanks for your patients and understanding.

smile.gif



I would love to be mentored by Emir or Pedja

Posted by: Karl-ss Feb 20 2010, 01:19 AM

Hmmm a Hard choice But the metalhead in me tells me to Say Lian Gerbino, Ramiro Delforte or Daniel Realpe. Ill leave it up to the man to pick as i am unable to make my own choices. tongue.gif

Posted by: stratman79 Feb 20 2010, 01:44 AM

I would be interested in signing up with either Pedja Simovic or Ivan Milenkovic.

I'm looking on working on my jazz improvising/chord melodies but am also happy to work on blues & modes mixed up with some cool funk stuff.

If there isn't room I'd happily sign up with any tutor (although I think I could make the singing tutor quit!!!)

I'm not a speed monster but I will try my best smile.gif There is always stuff to learn from new styles...

is there a sticky which outlines whats expected assignment wise?

thanks


Posted by: UncleSkillet Feb 20 2010, 02:03 AM

QUOTE (stratman79 @ Feb 19 2010, 07:44 PM) *
I would be interested in signing up with either Pedja Simovic or Ivan Milenkovic.

I'm looking on working on my jazz improvising/chord melodies but am also happy to work on blues & modes mixed up with some cool funk stuff.

If there isn't room I'd happily sign up with any tutor (although I think I could make the singing tutor quit!!!)

I'm not a speed monster but I will try my best smile.gif There is always stuff to learn from new styles...

is there a sticky which outlines whats expected assignment wise?

thanks


Here ya go mate! This is a link to whats expected and I wish you the best. smile.gif
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=31054

Posted by: zen Feb 20 2010, 02:07 AM

How about we see what the participation rate is like and then the current mtpers can apply to the instructors left with few students who are willing to accommodate more ...

I remember last time few instructors had 1 or 2 students whereas the others had a lot of them. So rather than NOT allow the current mtpers to continue at all for the next semester.. give them a chance to apply to the instructors who are left with few students in the end. This way the new batch gets preference of choosing their instructor but the current mtpers still get a chance to keep the momentum going, if at all there is space.

This is my 2.43 cents smile.gif

Posted by: UncleSkillet Feb 20 2010, 02:17 AM

QUOTE (zen @ Feb 19 2010, 08:07 PM) *
How about we see what the participation rate is like and then the current mtpers can apply to the instructors left with few students who are willing to accommodate more ...

I remember last time few instructors had 1 or 2 students whereas the others had a lot of them. So rather than NOT allow the current mtpers to continue at all for the next semester.. give them a chance to apply to the instructors who are left with few students in the end.

This is my 2.43 cents smile.gif


This sounds like a fair compromise to me! I second this VOTE!
I also agree that it isn't fair to the students to just discontinue. If they have a relationship with the instructor, there doing the required assignments on time, then just let them work it out between themselves or something. Their are several guys who having been doing really well and meet their assignment dead lines. It would be a shame to just kick them to the side. It's like going into work and getting fired for doing a GREAT JOB!

Off Course I do understand that others need an opportunity as well smile.gif

Posted by: NoSkill Feb 20 2010, 04:37 AM

Well, I don't even know what to add here. I guess it's fair to have it open to people that haven't yet participated. I'm a smidge disappointed in that I really did strive to do all my assignments on time and do my REC takes as per the program. I guess, however, there weren't any assignments in my MTP since before Christmas, as in both rounds of my MTP my instructor was very busy with things that had to take precedent over the MTP program. I guess I'll do my REC take for February and step aside to study other things.

Cheers! cool.gif

Posted by: Emir Hot Feb 20 2010, 05:14 AM

QUOTE (NoSkill @ Feb 20 2010, 03:37 AM) *
Well, I don't even know what to add here. I guess it's fair to have it open to people that haven't yet participated. I'm a smidge disappointed in that I really did strive to do all my assignments on time and do my REC takes as per the program. I guess, however, there weren't any assignments in my MTP since before Christmas, as in both rounds of my MTP my instructor was very busy with things that had to take precedent over the MTP program. I guess I'll do my REC take for February and step aside to study other things.

Cheers! cool.gif

I wrote to Kristofer about this and asked if they would let me finish January phase at least. We'll see what he says.

Posted by: maharzan Feb 20 2010, 07:04 AM

Thanks Emir.. really appreciate this.

+1 to Noskill. I did the same. smile.gif because it was announced that only if you complete all assignments + REC, you are going to qualify to continue earlier.

This hasn't been fair because its like cutting off learning process in the middle. I took 2 MTPs since it began but never completed. I don't know if I learnt anything. A little knowledge is dangerous as they say. smile.gif

Posted by: kaznie_NL Feb 20 2010, 08:55 AM

I'd like to be in with Ivan Milenkovic for a second try wink.gif

He knows me and my skills, because of a previous MTP session.

Posted by: Gitarrero Feb 20 2010, 09:13 AM

I'd like to be mentored by Lian, since I really love his lessons and his taste in music.

Posted by: Staffy Feb 20 2010, 09:38 AM

To me, 3 months with one instructor and 3 months off is OK, but for those who are in the beginning phases of playing guitar, this is not good - hence, learning benefits from a steady progress. I would say that students that have finished their REC-takes and all assignments should be able to continuee up to a year, maybe more... I don't see anything unfair with having a quee - system here, eg. those who haven't finished their latest MTP, will go in the bottom of the quee. New participants will of course go before old members that hasn't completed their MTP's.

Another approach to do this stuff would be to have the instructors to take care of one/two levels each and then can all participate - eg. the instructors can write lessons for the actual level, and then grade the participants. This will of course make it less personal, but I think it will put less stress on the instructors and in the long run everyone can benefit from it, since the intructors can put a lot of more effort in ONE lesson than in 5-10 each week.

//Staffay

Posted by: Marek Rojewski Feb 20 2010, 11:21 AM

If I remember correctly, there wasn't so many applications, that many people were "left without a mentor". After all look at how many instructors are ready to help with the MTP, and than look how many people post REC takes on regular basis, or even videos at general. The differences aren't so big.

EDIT: also take into account, that large part of those people find out that they have not enough time to participate actively, and drop off.

Posted by: Keilnoth Feb 20 2010, 11:46 AM

New rules are kinda bad news but I understand and there are plenty of other things to do on GMC. I will concentrate on REC and Collaboration during 3 months. Ok with me... smile.gif

Posted by: edguy Feb 20 2010, 01:55 PM

Oh this are bad news. So i have to make a break with my instructor Pedja. Mh like Zen said i have to hit something in my room and destroy it biggrin.gif

Posted by: ruben_mcn Feb 20 2010, 02:26 PM

Dam .. i only saw the rules now =( so i wont be able to enter this mtp cycle cause i was in the last one ??? can we aply if there are instructors left in the end ???

IMO this 3 months break is really bad cause it will slow our learning process (for instance i can´t do anything if i´m not forced to do it , so mtp was just perfect cause i had to do the assigmnts like the were an obligation ) .. hope we could figure somthing out for the gmcers who where already on the mtp ..

Posted by: Kristian Hyvarinen Feb 20 2010, 04:27 PM


Hi there,

I'd like to be part of the MTP program too! smile.gif Here's my entrance video:



I demonstrate some of my skills and at the end of the video I tell a lil' bit about myself. During my playing I didn't use a metronome so some parts are off rhythm. I basically improvised everything except the "songwriting" part. Thanks for watching, don't get scared by the bad English. wink.gif

I'd like to be mentored by Ivan Milenkovich!

Posted by: purple hayes Feb 20 2010, 04:30 PM

Count me as one of the people that are sad they can't continue in the MTP this round. I'd like to be considered in the 2nd tier of people to pick from if there are still open spots at the end, I'll take any instructor.

Idea: Maybe those that can't get matched with instructors can mentor each other. (and you can delete the next bit if it violates GMC rules) I've got my own forum/web site and would be happy do it there if you didn't want to clutter up the GMC forums.

Posted by: Tomas Santa Clara Feb 20 2010, 04:44 PM

Hey

this is going to be my first MTP

i would like to be signed to mr Ramiro Delforte please!

Posted by: playaxeman Feb 20 2010, 05:40 PM

Okay ...bad news cause I can't continue with Pedja sad.gif

I am not very pleased with this new rule, but other GMC'er must get a opportunity too.

Next MTP I will be here to sign up.


Posted by: superize Feb 20 2010, 10:13 PM

Too bad withthe new rules but i will wait unill the nex phase

Posted by: earman Feb 20 2010, 10:36 PM

Hello GMC. I would love to get in the MTP this round, regardless of my mentor. Here are some of my top picks though:

Ivan Milenkovich
Muris Varajic
Marcus Lavendell
Jeff Curtis
Jose Lassaga

Thanks! Keep up the awesome work GMC!

-Brandon Earman

Posted by: Joruus Feb 23 2010, 05:35 PM

I'd like to be mentored by Adrian Figallo. cool.gif

Posted by: rhoads Feb 25 2010, 12:18 AM

Hi !

I would also like to start the MTP with Emir Hot. Among all the instructors, his lessons are the most appropriate for my style (or what I would like to be my style) although I didn't post any of them in the REC because I can't to them well enough yet.

That's half of the reason and the other half is that he has "Rainbow" written in his profile smile.gif. Not exactly half of the reason but about 20% tongue.gif

There is a thing that I have to mention and I know it won't sound good coming from somebody that wants to start the MTP but.. the first week of March I will be "offline".. It's a trip that we planned from November and is very important to me.. From the second week of March I will be 100% on this (with fresh forces). I really hope that this is not a problem because I would really want to start the MTP this round and not wait until June. I'm a GMC member for only three months and I love this website and the learning methods that it proposes. It's great.

So.. waiting the answer.

Regards,
Alex

Posted by: Chris Evans Feb 27 2010, 11:45 PM

hi guys, thanks for your comments on the guideline change, they have been noted and will be discussed for future start up phases.

thanks to the new guys signing up as well, I`ll leave this open until tomorrow morning (Sunday) to allow as much time as possible for anyone wanting to join that may have missed this so far.

I will then put up the lists tomorrow evening.

Cheers smile.gif

Posted by: Christophe Feb 28 2010, 09:46 PM

I didn't understand everything but in a near future I'll not be a "premium" member, do the rules allowed that ?

If it's ok, I'd like to be Mentored by Lian Gerbino. =)

Posted by: Chris Evans Feb 28 2010, 10:58 PM

QUOTE (Christophe @ Feb 28 2010, 08:46 PM) *
I didn't understand everything but in a near future I'll not be a "premium" member, do the rules allowed that ?

If it's ok, I'd like to be Mentored by Lian Gerbino. =)


your going to need full membership I`m afraid.


Sign ups now closed, I will put a list up very soon.

cheers guys! smile.gif

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