What Scales To Practise ?
aerohit
Jun 15 2007, 02:55 AM
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Hiya. In order to freely flirt with my guitar, I learned A major and all its modes all over the guitar. But I somehow am not able to produce the kind of noises that would please me. One of the probable reason is because I have not chosen the right scale. Can someone suggest what scale should I choose to begin with, to create some really tasty riffs and licks rock style.

To give a little hint, I like Led Zep, Metallica, Slash and all those rock and roll bands of the 70-80's. So probably some lightning on what scales they worked with would help.

Also, A minor pentatonic box seems to be a pretty popular box. May I know from which major scale,if at all, is it derived from?

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aerohit
Jun 15 2007, 10:16 AM
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Thanks Robin for the link. But now I have an even more interesting question. I just found out that A minor pentatonic and C major pentatonic have the same notes, of course with different root. So how do you decide whether some piece is in C major pentatonic or A minor pentatonic. To put the same question in a different manner, how is playing In A minor pentatonic different from playing in C major pentatonic.

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QUOTE (aerohit @ Jun 15 2007, 10:16 AM) *
Thanks Robin for the link. But now I have an even more interesting question. I just found out that A minor pentatonic and C major pentatonic have the same notes, of course with different root. So how do you decide whether some piece is in C major pentatonic or A minor pentatonic. To put the same question in a different manner, how is playing In A minor pentatonic different from playing in C major pentatonic.


Hey there,

Deciding which key a peice is in is where the chord progression wants to resolve to.

By resolve we mean 'end up', or where the listener hears the tonal center.

So whether a peice is in 'A minor' Or 'C major' is down to whether the chord progression resolves to Am, or Am7 etc, or C major, C major7 etc.

So if you had a progression:

Dm7- Am7-G7-Cmaj

That would be in the key Of C major.

If you had the progression:

Em7-Cmaj7-Fmaj7-Am7

That would be in the key of A minor.


Its all where it ends up at, or where your ear hears it to be based around.

I hope that makes sense.

Ben

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aerohit
Jun 15 2007, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE (benhowell @ Jun 15 2007, 04:55 PM) *
Hey there,

Deciding which key a peice is in is usually where the chord progression wants to resolve to.

By resolve we mean 'end up', or where the listener hears the tonal center.

So whether a peice is in 'A minor' Or 'C major' is down to whether the chord progression resolves to Am, or Am7 etc, or C major, C major7 etc.

So if you had a progression:

Dm7- Am7-G7-Cmaj

That would be in the key Of C major.

If you had the progression:

Em7-Cmaj7-Fmaj7-Am7

That would be in the key of A minor.
Its all where it ends up at, or where your ear hears it to be based around.

I hope that makes sense.

Ben


Thanks Ben.

But lets say we are having a chord progression that ends at Cmaj7. Now when soloing how would I make sure that it sounds to be in C major pentatonic and not in A minor pentatonic, and vice-versa, even when the notes are same for the two scales.

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- aerohit   What Scales To Practise ?   Jun 15 2007, 02:55 AM
- - JVM   QUOTE (aerohit @ Jun 14 2007, 07:55 PM) H...   Jun 15 2007, 03:14 AM
- - AIB234   a minor pentatonic and minor pentatonic would be t...   Jun 15 2007, 03:32 AM
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- - lespaulrocker   you'd probably want to learn the minor scale w...   Jun 15 2007, 06:58 AM
- - aerohit   Thanks for all the replies. But could someone plea...   Jun 15 2007, 08:44 AM
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- - sb81   People have said Minor pentatonic for rock... that...   Jun 15 2007, 06:11 PM
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- - Leviathan   Can you guys show me all the pentatonic scales i s...   Jun 15 2007, 08:27 PM
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