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Posted by: Braer Nov 22 2009, 09:45 PM

Hey! Im trying to learn far beyond the sun and i think the chop in the start is to hard. I have seen other players play it in a different way.

This is the way i play it:
||------13h14p13p10-------------------------|-----------------||
||o-----------------14-12-10----------------|----------------o||
||---------------------------13-11-10-------|-----------------||
||------------------------------------12-11-|-9---------------||
||o-----------------------------------------|---12-11-9-8----o||
||------------------------------------------|-----------------||

This is the way i want to learn it:

At 0:16

Does annyone got tabs for this chop?

Posted by: Emir Hot Nov 22 2009, 09:50 PM

I used to have original tabs from Yngwie's official tab book. Every note is spot on. Try to find it on Amazon if you like Yngwie. It's worth every pence.

This is how I played it on my exam at school.

Posted by: Braer Nov 22 2009, 10:03 PM

Did you play it like this:
||------13h14p13p10-------------------------|-----------------||
||o-----------------14-12-10----------------|----------------o||
||---------------------------13-11-10-------|-----------------||
||------------------------------------12-11-|-9---------------||
||o-----------------------------------------|---12-11-9-8----o||
||------------------------------------------|-----------------||

?

I have almost been playing it for a half year and i still cant get it right.

Posted by: Emir Hot Nov 22 2009, 10:09 PM

QUOTE (Braer @ Nov 22 2009, 09:03 PM)

Yes I think that was that exact scale

Posted by: Braer Nov 22 2009, 10:11 PM

ok:) thanks. I see alot of people playing it the other way, strange i cant find anny tabs!

Posted by: edguy Nov 22 2009, 10:28 PM

Maybe here you find some good tabs:

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/y/yngwie_malmsteen/far_beyond_the_sun_ver4_guitar_pro.htm

Posted by: Braer Nov 22 2009, 10:36 PM

they are all the same

Ozielzinho also play it the way i want to learn it.

Posted by: Tolek Nov 22 2009, 11:11 PM

Here it is:
||------13h14p13----------------------------|-----------------||
||o-------------------15-14-12----------------|----------------o||
||-----------------------------14-13-11-10-------|-----------------||
||---------------------------------------12-11-|-9---------------||
||o--------------------------------------------|---12-11-9-8----o||
||---------------------------------------------|-----------------||

Use every first note of the strings your index finger.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Nov 22 2009, 11:32 PM

One small addition here - to display the tabs properly, just wrap them with code tags like this:

CODE

||------13h14p13p10-------------------------|-----------------||
||o-----------------14-12-10----------------|----------------o||
||---------------------------13-11-10-------|-----------------||
||------------------------------------12-11-|-9---------------||
||o-----------------------------------------|---12-11-9-8----o||
||------------------------------------------|-----------------||

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Nov 23 2009, 12:37 AM

QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Nov 22 2009, 09:50 PM)

This is how I played it on my exam at school.

I hate when that happens, your sound just turns off, for some reason, been there,

good reaction though,

Posted by: Emir Hot Nov 23 2009, 12:40 AM

QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Nov 22 2009, 11:37 PM)

I hate when that happens, your sound just turns off, for some reason, been there,

good reaction though,

I know, I was surprised for 2 seconds

Posted by: Braer Nov 23 2009, 04:35 PM

Thank you tolek! Where did you find it?

Posted by: Tolek Nov 23 2009, 05:43 PM

QUOTE (Braer @ Nov 23 2009, 04:35 PM)

Thank you tolek!

Where did you find it?

No problem, Braer!

I just used my eyes and my brain in order to figure it out. Took me 1 minute. Just take some notes to other strings in order to create 3nps patterns with position shifting index finger.

Thanks for the hint, Ivan!

Posted by: Braer Nov 24 2009, 07:31 PM

Maby to much to ask for, but...

Can annyone help me to tab those chords that this guy is playing? i have tryed myself but i cant get the right sound.

at 0:47

Posted by: Braer Nov 24 2009, 07:31 PM

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Posted by: Emir Hot Nov 24 2009, 11:03 PM

I see no chords here Only bunch of Malmsteen/Gilbert licks. Mostly harmonic minor and phrygian dominat scale.

Posted by: Tolek Nov 24 2009, 11:05 PM

He plays Am, E and G#dim:


--------------------------------
----10---9---12---10-------------------
-----9---9---13----9-----------------
----10---9---12----10------------------
-0---0-----0------0-----------
--------------------------------

Posted by: Emir Hot Nov 24 2009, 11:22 PM

QUOTE (Tolek @ Nov 24 2009, 10:05 PM)

He plays Am, E and G#dim:


--------------------------------
----10---9---12---10-------------------
-----9---9---13----9-----------------
----10---9---12----10------------------
-0---0-----0------0-----------
--------------------------------

This is what I hear


--------------------------------
----10----9----12----10-------------------
-----9----7----10-----9-----------------
----10----9----12-----10------------------
---0---0-----0------0-----------
--------------------------------

of course you have to play more notes on 5th open string

Posted by: Tolek Nov 24 2009, 11:53 PM

QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Nov 24 2009, 11:22 PM)

This is what I hear


--------------------------------
----10----9----12----10-------------------
-----9----7----10-----9-----------------
----10----9----12-----10------------------
---0---0-----0------0-----------
--------------------------------

of course you have to play more notes on 5th open string

Ah, yes, of course.

Thanks!

Posted by: Emir Hot Nov 25 2009, 12:40 AM

QUOTE (Tolek @ Nov 24 2009, 10:53 PM)

Ah, yes, of course.

Thanks!

You also transcribed correct diminished chords but with a different diminished note

Posted by: Tolek Nov 25 2009, 12:43 AM

QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Nov 25 2009, 12:40 AM)

You also transcribed correct diminished chords but with a different diminished note

I know.

Posted by: Braer Nov 25 2009, 03:01 PM

Thanks you so much guys!

what are the names of the chords? what key is this riff in? I really like the sound of it.

Posted by: Tolek Nov 25 2009, 03:51 PM

QUOTE (Braer @ Nov 25 2009, 03:01 PM)

Thanks you so much guys!

what are the names of the chords? what key is this riff in? I really like the sound of it.

That´s simple. Just A minor harmonic. The chords are:
Am, A C E (I degree of A min)
E7, E G# B D (V degree of A min)
Bdim, B D F (II degree of A min).

The two last chords have dominant function (this means, they tend to the root note which is A. In other words, after such chords you have to play Am or F in order to get a resolution.) and you can interpret them as one chord: E7b9 (E G# B D F). You can see that the notes of both chords are included in this one chord.

Not too complicated?

Posted by: Braer Nov 25 2009, 04:24 PM

hehe, thanks. To complicated for me

Posted by: Tolek Nov 25 2009, 04:27 PM

QUOTE (Braer @ Nov 25 2009, 04:24 PM)

hehe, thanks. To complicated for me

Oops.

If you want to learn some theory, I suggest Andrew´s fantastic lessons on his board. If you don´t, just remember the chords.

Posted by: slash48 Dec 23 2009, 11:24 PM

I would suggest using Audacity for figuring out fast chops. In case you don't already know or don't already have it, it's a free program that allows you to record music and edit tempo and pitch and all other things. (it can be found easily on google.) For really fast licks, Sometimes I even slow it down 40 or 50%! What I like is slowing it down has absolutely no effect on pitch. All you do is upload the mp3 into Audacity, click on the track to highlight it, and go to effects and click slow down tempo and pick how much you want to slow it down by. If you slow it done more than about 50% the sound quality is going to be pretty terrible of coarse haha Sorry if you already knew about all this, just trying to help out!