Who Knows About Tubes And Amps?
Gabriel Leopardi
Apr 28 2012, 09:33 PM
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Hello guys. Today I went to my luthier's house to set-up my guitars for the next weekend shows and we have been talking a lot about tune amps, tubes, digital emulators, etc. I told him that I wasn't 100% happy with my Dual Rectifier tone, because I feel that it's a bit trebly and lacks mids. He suggested me to try switching from 6l6 tubes to EL34 to get a fuller sound and more mids. He also talked about other valves that were bigger but I don't remember the models.

Does anybody know a bit more about this?

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DeGroot
May 1 2012, 09:23 PM
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I'm sure most of this has been covered but I thought I'd share my experience.

I have a Laney GH 50 watt with the same Marshall 1960 straight cab you are using. This amp also has the same feature with the power tube bias switch from 6L6 and EL34. I always preferred the EL34's cause of a tighter sounding crunch like a Marshall JCM. It seemed at least with my amp the 6L6 power tubes sounded too muddy. Also, if you have used the amp for many hours it might be time to change out the old power tubes. As you mentioned it might be a matter of just pairing different speakers that match the amp better. smile.gif

I also spent some time experimenting with the preamp tubes. I used some different style preamp tubes that I mixed and matched. Tried them in different sequence and found that you can achieve some nice results in changing the sound. I have 5 preamp tube slots in my Laney and one is for the effects loops. The effects loop required a ecc85 to work best for mine. Experimenting with the preamp tubes i found can change the sound of the amp more dramatically then even the power tubes.

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- Gabriel Leopardi   Who Knows About Tubes And Amps?   Apr 28 2012, 09:33 PM
- - Sensible Jones   I'm not greatly knowledgeable, but I do know t...   Apr 28 2012, 09:48 PM
- - Nihilist1   EL34's are definitely the way to go. Just make...   Apr 28 2012, 09:54 PM
- - SpaseMoonkey   I believe stock tubes in the Mesa is EL34s, mine a...   Apr 28 2012, 10:06 PM
|- - Nihilist1   QUOTE (SpaseMoonkey @ Apr 28 2012, 09:06 ...   Apr 29 2012, 12:57 AM
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- - Alex Feather   QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Apr 28 2012, 08...   Apr 29 2012, 07:56 AM
|- - Nihilist1   QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Apr 29 2012, 06:56 ...   Apr 29 2012, 08:01 AM
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- - Slavenko Erazer   Always Marshalls und ENGLs , never rectifiers...   Apr 29 2012, 10:50 AM
- - Nihilist1   My top three are: Sunn O))) (pronounced "Sun...   Apr 29 2012, 10:58 AM
- - Cosmin Lupu   Both the other guitarists with whom I am playing i...   Apr 29 2012, 08:26 PM
- - Gabriel Leopardi   Hey guys! Thanks for all this help. I have a ...   Apr 29 2012, 08:54 PM
|- - Nihilist1   QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Apr 29 2012, 07...   Apr 29 2012, 09:02 PM
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- - SpaseMoonkey   I just run mine ' drive: off , tone: noon , le...   Apr 29 2012, 09:24 PM
|- - Nihilist1   QUOTE (SpaseMoonkey @ Apr 29 2012, 08:24 ...   Apr 29 2012, 09:34 PM
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- - Mudbone   You could just need some new tubes. When was the l...   Apr 29 2012, 11:58 PM
|- - Gabriel Leopardi   QUOTE (Mudbone @ Apr 29 2012, 07:58 PM) Y...   Apr 30 2012, 02:56 AM
|- - Mudbone   QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Apr 29 2012, 09...   Apr 30 2012, 04:48 AM
|- - Gabriel Leopardi   QUOTE (Mudbone @ Apr 30 2012, 12:48 AM) S...   Apr 30 2012, 04:33 PM
|- - SpaseMoonkey   QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Apr 30 2012, 11...   Apr 30 2012, 07:20 PM
|- - Mudbone   QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Apr 30 2012, 11...   May 1 2012, 01:57 AM
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- - maharzan   Ah you are getting older.   Apr 30 2012, 05:03 PM
|- - Gabriel Leopardi   QUOTE (maharzan @ Apr 30 2012, 01:03 PM) ...   Apr 30 2012, 05:37 PM
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- - fkalich   A lot of good info here, they also are good about ...   Apr 30 2012, 06:57 PM
- - Nihilist1   Celestion V-30's are the way to go!   Apr 30 2012, 10:09 PM
- - Gabriel Leopardi   QUOTE (fkalich @ Apr 30 2012, 02:57 PM) A...   Apr 30 2012, 11:54 PM
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