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Mar 9 2012, 04:45 AM
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Ok, I don't listen to metal much anymore. I did. In fact, Megadeth "Rust in Piece" was a life-changing album for me as a little kid. I was pure rock/metal through high school, but eventually turned towards "jamband" crap for a while. Now, I love playing funk/jazz/country.....almost anything really.
But I've been having fun exploring the metal lessons and techniques here. I still have a LONG way to go, to become a decent metal guitarist. It's a whole other beast, compared to what I currently play. Different techniques, and approach. The other day I started wondering.... "is there ever really much room in modern metal, for improv in the solos"? Obviously, I know there are SOME bands doing it. But upon more consideration, I was thinking that most metal bands/guitarists don't quite "cut lose" and feel it out in a solo. I would think they usually have most of it "written", or at least have some go-to licks and runs. One reason it....speed! While busting an improv jazz solo, you can slow it down and just hit one note to change things up. You build it up. Tension, and release. Whereas (in my opinion....but I'm still here "asking" really) I would think the majority of metal solos are showcasing chops, speed and technique. So there isn't much space to just "improv" a solo, because it would ultimately just sound like you have less chops. Am I somewhat correct? Again, I hate to just "generalize" a whole HUGE genre of music, like the many facets of metal, but is there some truth to my statement/question? Either way, it's time for me to man-up, and learn the ways of the METAL! 
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Mar 9 2012, 10:39 PM
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Thanks for the feedback. In fact, the lack of improvisation/structure of the solos and composition, is what is turning me BACK on to metal! I think I could benefit from playing more, structured solos, as opposed to the years I've spent on blues/funk/jazz/country styles...many of which encourage you to create a solo in the moment (I mainly play live gigs, and practice too of course!) over the chord changes.
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Mar 10 2012, 07:38 PM
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That was an amazing solo! More "loose" and certainly combining some "improv" freedom. I still love that metal still sticks to more solid riffs and licks, even during the improv solo moments.
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Mar 10 2012, 09:05 PM
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This is a good topic. Ben's ideas is exactly what comes to my mind when we talk about metal solos. There are different approaches but in most of the songs the players create very structured solos. A good example is also Yngiwe Malmsteen that uses to have a very defined section and then a jamming section in most of his songs. He also improvises a lot during the rhythmic sections...
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Mar 10 2012, 09:19 PM
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Randomizations is best realized through careful and unconventional structuring, just look at Ron Jarzombek.
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I like to meet up with friends and do this from time to time, for fun and learning new tricks and just feel free to play whatever feels nice at that moment.
 
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