Arranging And Recording Tricks!, Or how to build a song! |
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Jan 10 2012, 10:35 PM
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Very good advices, professional indeed. There are some more songwriting/arranging tips here, on my songwriting chat sessions I did some time ago:
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Jan 11 2012, 04:19 AM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Jan 10 2012, 09:35 PM)  Very good advices, professional indeed. There are some more songwriting/arranging tips here, on my songwriting chat sessions I did some time ago: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=40900 Cool! I like it a lot!!!! -------------------- |
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the more you write and record, the better you get. In 2007 I had NO CLUE on writing a song - even a simple one from A to Z. Then I discovered the DAWs and my life changed. FOREVER 
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Jan 11 2012, 06:36 PM
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The multiple guitar layers seems to be really important in heavier music.
A great deal of recorded guitar isn't as high gain as you think, but multiple guitar tracks panned about and a lot of the time the bass has overdrive applied too. That's why it doesn't sound muddy or like a can of bees . -------------------- My SoundCloud
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Jan 11 2012, 08:04 PM
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Well, it's beneficial for studio recording to have more frequencies, if you are doubling guitars in a certain part of a song, using different instrument, different amp, different settings on both instrument and amp (knobs a bit different), different mic placement, playing a bit differently, and playing different positions (like you wrote) on the fretboard, you can get more richer recording.
It depends on the piece, but there is always something to insert on the "song basis". Good songs can be recognized because they can sound good even on a cheap acoustic, you don't need a whole band to play them, but bad songs, there is little to do to fix them, even with symphonic orchestra. However, in studio, you can always enrich a good song by adding more layers. These layers played on their own are very simple, and they should be. When played together they should sound coherent and tight. This post has been edited by Ivan Milenkovic: Jan 11 2012, 08:06 PM -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Jan 11 2012, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Jan 10 2012, 09:52 AM) Hi guys! When it comes to arranging and recording there are no rules at all! You just have to make it feel good however there are tricks that you can use and make it sound good! I will go deeper in to this topic later but right now I wanted to share a basic stuff So let's pretend we have drums, bass and vocal recorded, and nothing else style of the song is modern rock! I am at the studio and I need to record guitar and make it sound good! Simple way to understand a song is to look at it if it was a house Drums is a basement Bass is a first floor Guitar goes in the middle Vocal is a top floor 1) Main chords I always like to play a main chords first just to guide me through most of the time this track is not making it to the final mix but it helps to understand a structure and chord changes 2) Recording rhythm parts! When I am recording rhythm I always like to do at least four tracks main chords low, double, octave higher, double. This trick will open up your song more and will make it sound bigger! 3) Depends on the range that vocals in I am choosing my octave and trying to fill the gaps that are in between so I am not clashing with a singer 4) Layers! A few years ago when I was recording on AIR studio in London I got a chance to hear Coldplay tracks separately and there was so many layers of guitars! and some of them you could barely hear! The trick is that our ear does not recognize every sound in the song but if you have a lot of different layers that are hidden in the mix it feels fuller!!! So you play different octaves and melodies and use some as main parts and some hidden 5) More choices is always better! When you are working at the studio or making your own record it's always better to have more parts recorded and have different options so you can experiment and find the one that fits right! if you don't need a part you can always press delete! So this is only the basics of a studio recording process! I will try to get deeper in to this subject so you can get a better idea! If you have any questions feel free to ask!!! Very helpful post, thanks for the insights. I've always double tracked my rythm, but didn't think to double track a second rhythm guitar using different octaves (or even inverted chords on a different set of strings hi/lo). Great stuff. now the challenge - composing! haha. I still struggle with the process, but as everyone says, the more you practice, the easier it gets  Thanks! -------------------- The more I practice, the more I wish I had time to practice!
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Jan 12 2012, 04:27 PM
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Those are really great tips. I recorded many albums, as a player and also as a recording technician or producer and can't agree more about the tips that you gave here. With the pass of time and the experience that it gives I realized that improvising over a song and recording lots of ideas makes the editing and mixing process longer but much more creative.
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Jan 12 2012, 09:31 PM
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Great topic Alex, here we can really learn a lot, thanks
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Jan 12 2012, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE (Sinisa Cekic @ Jan 12 2012, 08:31 PM) Great topic Alex, here we can really learn a lot, thanks Thank you very much!!! -------------------- |
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Jan 20 2012, 05:39 AM
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I'm going to try to make it to your chat.
I'm learning the process of songwriting.
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