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Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 4 2012, 09:20 PM

Hello! I am very excited to start working with you!
I know that you are interested in learning modes in 7 Days and we will start working on it ASAP!
I have a few questions for you! It will give me a better idea about your other goals and styles you like!
-What are your goals?
-What is your weakness?
-What is your strongest point?
-Your favorite guitar players?

Posted by: JesseJ Jun 5 2012, 05:25 AM

Hi Alex smile.gif

I am very excited to start working with you to ! And yes you are right about me wanting to learn the modes. Although I do not need to learn them is 7 days ( If I do that would be sweet ! ) but I am prepared to practice. I realize that the only way to get good is to practice, practice, practice .Anyway here is some stuff about me .

1 Goals : Make beautiful solo's . I want to be able to express myself through my guitar. I can hear these melodies in my head that would compliment a certain song so nicely but I don't know how to play them . For me personally I want to create A gorgeous melody . I see guys like Eddie Van Halen who play super fast and throw these crazy techniques in there solo's and people go WOW did you see how fast his fingers moved ! When I solo I want people to go WOW did you hear that melody he played ! For me it is not about speed or technique ( although they do have there place ) it is about sound . I would also like to learn to play by ear, and be a Lead guitarist smile.gif

2 Weakness : that is an easy one. My ear is my biggest weakness.

3 Strong point : Well I am a Fairly new guitarist but I have played piano for 2 years and I am a thinker. So when I started learning guitar I started learning theory as well , pair that up with what I learnt in Piano I think theory is one of my strong points , I just need to learn how to apply it to the guitar. I think creativity is my other strong point .

4 Favorite guitar players : Mark Tremonti ( alter bridge ), Slash , Andrew and Micah from the band disciple , The lead guitarist from seventh day slumber ( I don't know his name ) Listen to their song wasted life smile.gif I also like the guitarist's from Nickelback.

Although most of the guitarist's I just listed play in hard rock bands I appreciate all kinds of music . I love Country, Rock ,punk , Classical ,Blues, Christian worship music . it's all good and fun to play smile.gif

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 6 2012, 02:25 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jun 5 2012, 04:25 AM) *
Hi Alex smile.gif

I am very excited to start working with you to ! And yes you are right about me wanting to learn the modes. Although I do not need to learn them is 7 days ( If I do that would be sweet ! ) but I am prepared to practice. I realize that the only way to get good is to practice, practice, practice .Anyway here is some stuff about me .

1 Goals : Make beautiful solo's . I want to be able to express myself through my guitar. I can hear these melodies in my head that would compliment a certain song so nicely but I don't know how to play them . For me personally I want to create A gorgeous melody . I see guys like Eddie Van Halen who play super fast and throw these crazy techniques in there solo's and people go WOW did you see how fast his fingers moved ! When I solo I want people to go WOW did you hear that melody he played ! For me it is not about speed or technique ( although they do have there place ) it is about sound . I would also like to learn to play by ear, and be a Lead guitarist smile.gif

2 Weakness : that is an easy one. My ear is my biggest weakness.

3 Strong point : Well I am a Fairly new guitarist but I have played piano for 2 years and I am a thinker. So when I started learning guitar I started learning theory as well , pair that up with what I learnt in Piano I think theory is one of my strong points , I just need to learn how to apply it to the guitar. I think creativity is my other strong point .

4 Favorite guitar players : Mark Tremonti ( alter bridge ), Slash , Andrew and Micah from the band disciple , The lead guitarist from seventh day slumber ( I don't know his name ) Listen to their song wasted life smile.gif I also like the guitarist's from Nickelback.

Although most of the guitarist's I just listed play in hard rock bands I appreciate all kinds of music . I love Country, Rock ,punk , Classical ,Blues, Christian worship music . it's all good and fun to play smile.gif


Awesome! You are absolutely correct! Practice makes perfect! I can definitely help you with creating solos and develop your ears! I am really glad you have decided to join! smile.gif
So let's start!
The easiest key to learn all the modes is G major the reason it is covering the whole neck and all the patterns are very easy to remember!
Here is a G major scale:
G - A - B - C - D - E - F#
It has 7 modes for each note of the scale!
Aeolian - Dorian - Phrygian - Lydian - Myxolydian - Ionian - Locrian
First this you have to understand that the notes will stay the same and nothing will change except of the starting note! Unless you will change the key!

So to start I would like you to learn one mode G locrian
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
Learn it well up and down so you don't have to think about the notes when you are playing it!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!
Also let me know as soon as you are ready for a new assignment and I will post it right away!

Posted by: JesseJ Jun 6 2012, 11:51 PM

Hi Alex !
Okay I got the Locrian mode memorized ! I was naming out the notes as I played them . i figure if I memorize the fretboard I will be a better improviser !

I am bit confused though with theory . You said the notes don't change in the Locrian mode. Which in the scale you showed me they didn't . It was just the G Major scale starting on the 7 degree. Now in this guitar theory book I have it says there are 2 ways to make a mode.

1 What they call the "Derivative approach" All you do is re-order the notes . So in G Locrian mode we start on the 7th degree ( F#) and play from there .

2 what they call the "Parallel approach" they say you use slighty different notes. Such as the say the G major Locrian mode is just the G major scale with a flat 2,3,5,6,and 7th . Now to me these are 2 different scales because the first one contains the notes

F#-G-A-B-C-D-E-F#

and the 2nd one contains the notes

G-Ab-Bb-C-Db-Eb-F ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?

I am very confused at this and I am hoping you can shed some light on the situation!

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 8 2012, 06:05 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jun 6 2012, 10:51 PM) *
Hi Alex !
Okay I got the Locrian mode memorized ! I was naming out the notes as I played them . i figure if I memorize the fretboard I will be a better improviser !

I am bit confused though with theory . You said the notes don't change in the Locrian mode. Which in the scale you showed me they didn't . It was just the G Major scale starting on the 7 degree. Now in this guitar theory book I have it says there are 2 ways to make a mode.

1 What they call the "Derivative approach" All you do is re-order the notes . So in G Locrian mode we start on the 7th degree ( F#) and play from there .

2 what they call the "Parallel approach" they say you use slighty different notes. Such as the say the G major Locrian mode is just the G major scale with a flat 2,3,5,6,and 7th . Now to me these are 2 different scales because the first one contains the notes

F#-G-A-B-C-D-E-F#

and the 2nd one contains the notes

G-Ab-Bb-C-Db-Eb-F ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?

I am very confused at this and I am hoping you can shed some light on the situation!


There is easier way to learn modes without thinking!
The idea is to memorize the shapes and that's it!
So say for example you have learned F# locrian now you can play any locrian mode smile.gif
If I will ask you to play D locrian all you have to do is to play the same shape starting with D!
Very easy!
I would like you to start learning a new shape and than I will give you exercise to combine those and turn it into the licks and exercises!

Here is B phrygian
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
There is a reason I chose it and I will explain it to you in the next assignment!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!

Posted by: JesseJ Jun 11 2012, 05:37 AM

QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Jun 8 2012, 05:05 AM) *
There is easier way to learn modes without thinking!
The idea is to memorize the shapes and that's it!
So say for example you have learned F# locrian now you can play any locrian mode smile.gif
If I will ask you to play D locrian all you have to do is to play the same shape starting with D!
Very easy!
I would like you to start learning a new shape and than I will give you exercise to combine those and turn it into the licks and exercises!

Here is B phrygian
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
There is a reason I chose it and I will explain it to you in the next assignment!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!



I thought that memorizing the shapes was the best way to because of that reason , but when I mentioned that in the forum Cosmin and Gabe both said you have to learn what modes have what notes so you can emphasize those notes and make it sound more like a mode and less like a re-ordering of a mode . i am confused though . is a mode just a Re-ordering of the ionian mode or do different modes actually have different notes ?

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 11 2012, 07:20 PM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jun 11 2012, 04:37 AM) *
I thought that memorizing the shapes was the best way to because of that reason , but when I mentioned that in the forum Cosmin and Gabe both said you have to learn what modes have what notes so you can emphasize those notes and make it sound more like a mode and less like a re-ordering of a mode . i am confused though . is a mode just a Re-ordering of the ionian mode or do different modes actually have different notes ?


Well here is the trick! Memorizing the shapes will lead you to learning notes!
If you will start doing both at the same time you will get confused and it will take much longer to learn!

Posted by: JesseJ Jun 12 2012, 05:55 PM

Okay then, I will trust you seeing as you are the master and I am the student smile.gif I have now memorized both shapes and can play them up down with ease. I am excited for my next assignment. I have this feeling that we are about to make a major breakthrough in my improvising skills in these next few weeks !

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 12 2012, 06:03 PM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jun 12 2012, 04:55 PM) *
Okay then, I will trust you seeing as you are the master and I am the student smile.gif I have now memorized both shapes and can play them up down with ease. I am excited for my next assignment. I have this feeling that we are about to make a major breakthrough in my improvising skills in these next few weeks !

No worries you will learn both notes and shapes very fast! smile.gif
Here is a new shape
A dorian

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

I would like you to memorize this one as well!
Also make sure to learn those shapes going up and down!
Let me know when you are ready for the next one and if you have any questions or need help!

Posted by: JesseJ Jun 13 2012, 05:30 PM

Okay Mission accomplished !! I now have all three memorized , and in doing so I have noticed that they all kind of link together !! am I correct ?

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 13 2012, 06:27 PM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jun 13 2012, 04:30 PM) *
Okay Mission accomplished !! I now have all three memorized , and in doing so I have noticed that they all kind of link together !! am I correct ?

Yes they are! You are absolutely correct!
I will post a new assignment in a couple of hours!

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 15 2012, 08:04 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jun 13 2012, 04:30 PM) *
Okay Mission accomplished !! I now have all three memorized , and in doing so I have noticed that they all kind of link together !! am I correct ?


Now I would like you to memorize C lydian position
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

Sorry I had to go to the first fret! Actually C will be on the 13th and F# on the 14th frets!
Let me know when you are ready for the next one! Those are simple at first after we will be done with all the positions I will give you a hard but very powerful exercise that will help you to learn all positions and master them in no time!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!

Posted by: JesseJ Jun 15 2012, 06:13 PM

Its no problem I figured it out just fine smile.gif I know enough about the guitar that I realize after the 12 fret the notes just repeat. And I know the way the sharps go and such from piano ( A,A#,B,C,C#,D,#,E,F,F#,G,G#). Anyway I have all four shapes memorized now !! I am noticing we are in the key of G major aren't we ?

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 15 2012, 10:46 PM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jun 15 2012, 05:13 PM) *
Its no problem I figured it out just fine smile.gif I know enough about the guitar that I realize after the 12 fret the notes just repeat. And I know the way the sharps go and such from piano ( A,A#,B,C,C#,D,#,E,F,F#,G,G#). Anyway I have all four shapes memorized now !! I am noticing we are in the key of G major aren't we ?

Good job! Yes we are in the key of G major! And as you understand all modes and shapes are coming from the same scale and nothing is really changing except of the starting note!
I will post a new one in a few hours!

Posted by: JesseJ Jun 18 2012, 04:59 AM

Yes I have also noticed that the notes are the same , yet the shapes are different. I have lots to learn yet but I have this feeling that with your help I am on the verge of a major soloing breakthrough ! I have been practicing the modes by playing three notes per string and moving through all the 4 modes you taught me. I am hoping that in doing this I will be able to move between them freely.

I am Anxiously awaiting your next Assignment !!!

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 18 2012, 11:45 PM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jun 18 2012, 03:59 AM) *
Yes I have also noticed that the notes are the same , yet the shapes are different. I have lots to learn yet but I have this feeling that with your help I am on the verge of a major soloing breakthrough ! I have been practicing the modes by playing three notes per string and moving through all the 4 modes you taught me. I am hoping that in doing this I will be able to move between them freely.

I am Anxiously awaiting your next Assignment !!!

Now let's add two more modes:

D Mixolydian and E Ionian
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

E ionoan
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

Let me know when you are ready and I will show the trick on how to master those in no time! smile.gif

Posted by: JesseJ Jun 19 2012, 04:09 AM

Okay as soon as I saw the new assignment I practiced both shapes for 45min . I just have 1 question before we move on. If we are in Gmajor then didn't you mean E Aolian ? Other than that I am ready for the next step !

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 19 2012, 08:22 PM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jun 19 2012, 03:09 AM) *
Okay as soon as I saw the new assignment I practiced both shapes for 45min . I just have 1 question before we move on. If we are in Gmajor then didn't you mean E Aolian ? Other than that I am ready for the next step !

So now I have a very cool exercise that will help you master those shapes in no time!
The idea of this exercise that you are playing along with me! Do this exercise twice a day through for the next 5 days and you will see huge results! smile.gif
It might be tricky at first but it's not as hard as it seems! smile.gif
Tempo is 90BPM

http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/modes-workout

E ||----------------------------------------------3----|
B ||-------------------------------------3--5--7-------|
G ||o---------------------------2--4--5----------------|
D ||o------------------2--4--5-------------------------|
A ||----------2--3--5----------------------------------|
E ||-2--3--5-------------------------------------------|


--5--7--5--3---------------------------------------|||---|---|||
--------------7--5--3------------------------------|||---|---|||
-----------------------5--4--2--------------------o|||o--|--o|||
--------------------------------5--4--2-----------o|||o--|--o|||
-----------------------------------------5--3--2---|||---|---|||
---------------------------------------------------|||---|---|||


----------------------------------------------5----|
-------------------------------------5--7--8-------|
o---------------------------4--5--7----------------|
o------------------4--5--7-------------------------|
----------3--5--7----------------------------------|
-3--5--7-------------------------------------------|


--7--8--7--5---------------------------------------||----|----||
--------------8--7--5------------------------------||----|----||
-----------------------7--5--4--------------------o||----|----||
--------------------------------7--5--4-----------o||----|----||
-----------------------------------------7--5--3---||----|----||
---------------------------------------------------||----|----||


----------------------------------------------7----|
-------------------------------------7--8--10------|
o---------------------------5--7--9----------------|
o------------------5--7--9-------------------------|
----------5--7--9----------------------------------|
-5--7--8-------------------------------------------|


--8--10-8--7---------------------------------------||----|----||
--------------10-8--7------------------------------||----|----||
-----------------------9--7--5--------------------o||----|----||
--------------------------------9--7--5-----------o||----|----||
-----------------------------------------9--7--5---||----|----||
---------------------------------------------------||----|----||


----------------------------------------------8----|
-------------------------------------8--10-12------|
o---------------------------7--9--11---------------|
o------------------7--9--10------------------------|
----------7--9--10---------------------------------|
-7--8--10------------------------------------------|


--10-12-10-8---------------------------------------||----|----||
--------------12-10-8------------------------------||----|----||
-----------------------11-9--7--------------------o||----|----||
--------------------------------10-9--7-----------o||----|----||
-----------------------------------------10-9--7---||----|----||
---------------------------------------------------||----|----||


----------------------------------------------10---|
-------------------------------------10-12-13------|
o---------------------------9--11-12---------------|
o------------------9--10-12------------------------|
----------9--10-12---------------------------------|
-8--10-12------------------------------------------|


--12-14-12-10--------------------------------------||----|----||
--------------13-12-10-----------------------------||----|----||
-----------------------12-11-9--------------------o||----|----||
--------------------------------12-10-9-----------o||----|----||
-----------------------------------------12-10-9---||----|----||
---------------------------------------------------||----|----||


----------------------------------------------12---|
-------------------------------------12-13-15------|
o---------------------------11-12-14---------------|
o------------------10-12-14------------------------|
----------10-12-14---------------------------------|
-10-12-14------------------------------------------|


--14-15-14-12--------------------------------------||----|----||
--------------15-13-12-----------------------------||----|----||
-----------------------14-12-11-------------------o||----|----||
--------------------------------14-12-10----------o||----|----||
-----------------------------------------14-12-10--||----|----||
---------------------------------------------------||----|----||


----------------------------------------------14---|
-------------------------------------13-15-17------|
o---------------------------12-14-16---------------|
o------------------12-14-16------------------------|
----------12-14-15---------------------------------|
-12-14-15------------------------------------------|


--15-17-15-14--------------------------------------||----|----|
--------------17-15-13-----------------------------||----|----|
-----------------------16-14-12-------------------o||----|----|
--------------------------------16-14-12----------o||----|----|
-----------------------------------------15-14-12--||----|----|
---------------------------------------------------||----|----|


-----------------------------------------------14---|
--------------------------------------13-15-17------|
-----------------------------12-14-16---------------|
--------------------12-14-16------------------------|
-----------12-14-15---------------------------------|
--12-14-15------------------------------------------|


--15-17-15-14---------------------------------------|
--------------17-15-13------------------------------|
-----------------------16-14-12---------------------|
--------------------------------16-14-12------------|
-----------------------------------------15-14-12---|
----------------------------------------------------|


-----------------------------------------------12---|
--------------------------------------12-13-15------|
-----------------------------11-12-14---------------|
--------------------10-12-14------------------------|
-----------10-12-14---------------------------------|
--10-12-14------------------------------------------|


--14-15-14-12---------------------------------------|
--------------15-13-12------------------------------|
-----------------------14-12-11---------------------|
--------------------------------14-12-10------------|
-----------------------------------------14-12-10---|
----------------------------------------------------|


-----------------------------------------------10---|
--------------------------------------10-12-13------|
-----------------------------9--11-12---------------|
--------------------9--10-12------------------------|
-----------9--10-12---------------------------------|
--8--10-12------------------------------------------|


--12-14-12-10---------------------------------------|
--------------13-12-10------------------------------|
-----------------------12-11-9----------------------|
--------------------------------12-10-9-------------|
-----------------------------------------12-10-9----|
----------------------------------------------------|


-----------------------------------------------8----|
--------------------------------------8--10-12------|
-----------------------------7--9--11---------------|
--------------------7--9--10------------------------|
-----------7--9--10---------------------------------|
--7--8--10------------------------------------------|


--10-12-10-8----------------------------------------|
--------------12-10-8-------------------------------|
-----------------------11-9--7----------------------|
--------------------------------10-9--7-------------|
-----------------------------------------10-9--7----|
----------------------------------------------------|


-----------------------------------------------7----|
--------------------------------------7--8--10------|
-----------------------------5--7--9----------------|
--------------------5--7--9-------------------------|
-----------5--7--9----------------------------------|
--5--7--8-------------------------------------------|


--8--10-8--7----------------------------------------|
--------------10-8--7-------------------------------|
-----------------------9--7--5----------------------|
--------------------------------9--7--5-------------|
-----------------------------------------9--7--5----|
----------------------------------------------------|


-----------------------------------------------5----|
--------------------------------------5--7--8-------|
-----------------------------4--5--7----------------|
--------------------4--5--7-------------------------|
-----------3--5--7----------------------------------|
--3--5--7-------------------------------------------|


--7--8--7--5----------------------------------------||
--------------8--7--5-------------------------------||
-----------------------7--5--4----------------------||
--------------------------------7--5--4-------------||
-----------------------------------------7--5--3----||
----------------------------------------------------||


----------------------------------------------3----|
-------------------------------------3--5--7-------|
o---------------------------2--4--5----------------|
o------------------2--4--5-------------------------|
----------2--3--5----------------------------------|
-2--3--5-------------------------------------------|


--5--7--5--3---------------------------------------|||
--------------7--5--3------------------------------|||
-----------------------5--4--2--------------------o|||
--------------------------------5--4--2-----------o|||
-----------------------------------------5--3--2---|||
---------------------------------------------------|||


----------------------------------------------7----|
-------------------------------------7--8--10------|
o---------------------------5--7--9----------------|
o------------------5--7--9-------------------------|
----------5--7--9----------------------------------|
-5--7--8-------------------------------------------|


--8--10-8--7---------------------------------------|||
--------------10-8--7------------------------------|||
-----------------------9--7--5--------------------o|||
--------------------------------9--7--5-----------o|||
-----------------------------------------9--7--5---|||
---------------------------------------------------|||


----------------------------------------------8----|
-------------------------------------8--10-12------|
o---------------------------7--9--11---------------|
o------------------7--9--10------------------------|
----------7--9--10---------------------------------|
-7--8--10------------------------------------------|


--10-12-10-8---------------------------------------|||
--------------12-10-8------------------------------|||
-----------------------11-9--7--------------------o|||
--------------------------------10-9--7-----------o|||
-----------------------------------------10-9--7---|||
---------------------------------------------------|||


----------------------------------------------5----|
-------------------------------------5--7--8-------|
o---------------------------4--5--7----------------|
o------------------4--5--7-------------------------|
----------3--5--7----------------------------------|
-3--5--7-------------------------------------------|


--7--8--7--5---------------------------------------|||
--------------8--7--5------------------------------|||
-----------------------7--5--4--------------------o|||
--------------------------------7--5--4-----------o|||
-----------------------------------------7--5--3---|||
---------------------------------------------------|||


----------------------------------------------12---|
-------------------------------------12-13-15------|
o---------------------------11-12-14---------------|
o------------------10-12-14------------------------|
----------10-12-14---------------------------------|
-10-12-14------------------------------------------|


--14-15-14-12--------------------------------------|||
--------------15-13-12-----------------------------|||
-----------------------14-12-11-------------------o|||
--------------------------------14-12-10----------o|||
-----------------------------------------14-12-10--|||
---------------------------------------------------|||


----------------------------------------------14---|
-------------------------------------13-15-17------|
o---------------------------12-14-16---------------|
o------------------12-14-16------------------------|
----------12-14-15---------------------------------|
-12-14-15------------------------------------------|


--15-17-15-14--------------------------------------||
--------------17-15-13-----------------------------||
-----------------------16-14-12-------------------o||
--------------------------------16-14-12----------o||
-----------------------------------------15-14-12--||
---------------------------------------------------||


-----------------------------------------------3----|
--------------------------------------3--5--7-------|
-----------------------------2--4--5----------------|
--------------------2--4--5-------------------------|
-----------2--3--5----------------------------------|
--2--3--5-------------------------------------------|


--5--7--5--3----------------------------------------|-------||
--------------7--5--3-------------------------------|-------||
-----------------------5--4--2----------------------|-------||
--------------------------------5--4--2-------------|-------||
-----------------------------------------5--3--2----|-------||
----------------------------------------------------|--3----||


Guitar pro file
 Scales_workout.gp5 ( 8.99K ) : 132


Let me know if you have any questions or need help!

Posted by: JesseJ Jun 19 2012, 10:42 PM

Okay I have my work cut out for me ! It looks like a great chance to also improve my alternate picking and legato. I couldnt open the guitar pro file. What was in it ? Here is a video of my favorite guitarist. My goal is to be able to play like this one day .

http://youtu.be/4Ouz-T5JKh8

Posted by: JesseJ Jun 20 2012, 12:04 AM

Okay I think I have that chart memorized just a few questions. In bars 11-12 that is the D mixolydian mode , The tab says to play 15-14-12 on the B string ? is this just a typo ? Becuase 15-14-12 on the B string is D-C#-B, If we are in the key of G shouldnt it be D-C-B , which would be 15-13-12.

Also I noticed that all of these exercises are just the mode descending and then ascending again over 2 bars. The only one i didn;t know was bars 3&4. Is that G ionian ?

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 20 2012, 02:19 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jun 19 2012, 11:04 PM) *
Okay I think I have that chart memorized just a few questions. In bars 11-12 that is the D mixolydian mode , The tab says to play 15-14-12 on the B string ? is this just a typo ? Becuase 15-14-12 on the B string is D-C#-B, If we are in the key of G shouldnt it be D-C-B , which would be 15-13-12.

Also I noticed that all of these exercises are just the mode descending and then ascending again over 2 bars. The only one i didn;t know was bars 3&4. Is that G ionian ?

you are absolutely correct! It was a typo! You are the first one who is trying this exercise so if you see any mistakes please let me know! smile.gif
This exercise will boost your alternative picking, will help you to sync your hands and you will master modes in no time!
Play it twice a day for 5 days you will see amazing changes! smile.gif
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!

P.S. You have to play it through without stopping! smile.gif

Posted by: JesseJ Jun 20 2012, 08:30 PM

That was my only question. Practice is going good. I played through it at least 5 times yesterday, and 3 times today already. I am taking it slow and making sure I hit all the correct notes,and once my muscles have memorized then I will build up speed. i just find that if I play to fast I will forget where I am going .

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 21 2012, 06:35 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jun 20 2012, 07:30 PM) *
That was my only question. Practice is going good. I played through it at least 5 times yesterday, and 3 times today already. I am taking it slow and making sure I hit all the correct notes,and once my muscles have memorized then I will build up speed. i just find that if I play to fast I will forget where I am going .

That is awesome! This exercise will do miracles for you! smile.gif
Let me know when you are ready for a new assignment!

Posted by: JesseJ Jun 23 2012, 06:07 AM

Okay I have continued to practice this exercise lots! I am going on a backpacking trip for the next 4 days but when I get back I will probably practice this for 1 more day and then I will be ready for a new assignment!

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 23 2012, 08:37 PM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jun 23 2012, 05:07 AM) *
Okay I have continued to practice this exercise lots! I am going on a backpacking trip for the next 4 days but when I get back I will probably practice this for 1 more day and then I will be ready for a new assignment!

Perfect! Let me know when you are ready! Have a fun trip! smile.gif

Posted by: JesseJ Jun 27 2012, 09:40 PM

Okay I have practiced that assignment up and down the neck tons ! I think I am ready for the next one !

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 28 2012, 12:10 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jun 27 2012, 08:40 PM) *
Okay I have practiced that assignment up and down the neck tons ! I think I am ready for the next one !

Awesome! Will be posted in a few hours! smile.gif

Posted by: JesseJ Jun 29 2012, 07:56 PM

Okay I am excited to see it !

Posted by: Alex Feather Jun 30 2012, 09:52 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jun 29 2012, 06:56 PM) *
Okay I am excited to see it !

I have a pretty cool exercise!
It will help you to master the neck plus work on your modes plus will bring your alternative picking to the next level! smile.gif
Here it is!
E ||----------------------------------------------3----|
B ||-------------------------------------3--5--7-------|
G ||o---------------------------2--4--5----------------|
D ||o------------------2--4--5-------------------------|
A ||----------2--3--5----------------------------------|
E ||-2--3--5-------------------------------------------|


--5--7--5--3---------------------------------------|||---|---|||
--------------7--5--3------------------------------|||---|---|||
-----------------------5--4--2--------------------o|||o--|--o|||
--------------------------------5--4--2-----------o|||o--|--o|||
-----------------------------------------5--3--2---|||---|---|||
---------------------------------------------------|||---|---|||


----------------------------------------------5----|
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 Scales_workout.gp5 ( 8.99K ) : 97

I would like you to start by getting use to those shapes and when you will be learning them try to call out notes it will help you to master the neck better!
And here is a cool part of this exercise!
I played a track and would like you to play along with me! This exercise will help you with picking technique!
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/modes-workout

Let me know if you have any questions or need help!

Posted by: JesseJ Jun 30 2012, 02:39 PM

Is this exercise a mode or the modes in a different key ?

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 1 2012, 02:52 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jun 30 2012, 01:39 PM) *
Is this exercise a mode or the modes in a different key ?

Those are all the modes from G major scale starting with F# locrian It will help you to master all modes positions in no time!

Posted by: JesseJ Jul 3 2012, 11:48 PM

QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Jul 1 2012, 01:52 AM) *
Those are all the modes from G major scale starting with F# locrian It will help you to master all modes positions in no time!


Alex this is the the same exercise as you gave me previously. I have already completed it, except I didnt read the part about randomly stopping and calling out the note name. I will work on that otherwise I am ready for a new assignment Please smile.gif

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 4 2012, 04:01 PM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jul 3 2012, 10:48 PM) *
Alex this is the the same exercise as you gave me previously. I have already completed it, except I didnt read the part about randomly stopping and calling out the note name. I will work on that otherwise I am ready for a new assignment Please smile.gif

Oh wow sorry I must of missed it! smile.gif It's a very new exercise and not that many students tried it yet! So I am trying to give it to some! smile.gif
So let's start getting into improvisation!
I have a backing track for you it's a rock shuffle style!
Standard Blues progression but a little heavier! smile.gif
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/rockshuffle

Over D7

D minor blues pentatonic
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

Over E7
E minor pentatonic
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

I will base my solo of the same scales and shapes!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!

Posted by: JesseJ Jul 4 2012, 06:22 PM

Wow this is news to me ! I thought that when improvising we just used scales from that key. So if we are in the key of G for example I didnt think we could use the C major pentatonic scale over a C chord !

I just have one question. You listed the progression as E7-A7-B7, but down below you said A7-D7-E7 ? So is the chord a B7 or a D7 ?

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 5 2012, 07:54 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jul 4 2012, 05:22 PM) *
Wow this is news to me ! I thought that when improvising we just used scales from that key. So if we are in the key of G for example I didnt think we could use the C major pentatonic scale over a C chord !

I just have one question. You listed the progression as E7-A7-B7, but down below you said A7-D7-E7 ? So is the chord a B7 or a D7 ?

Hello! Actually the chord progression is A7 - D7 - E7

The shapes are correct!
Yes it is a very cool technique to use! You can play different pentatonics over each chord and you will hit the changes! It is a lot of fun! smile.gif
I will finish my track tomorrow to give you ideas for combining pentatonics and creating your own licks!

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 5 2012, 05:39 PM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jul 4 2012, 05:22 PM) *
Wow this is news to me ! I thought that when improvising we just used scales from that key. So if we are in the key of G for example I didnt think we could use the C major pentatonic scale over a C chord !

I just have one question. You listed the progression as E7-A7-B7, but down below you said A7-D7-E7 ? So is the chord a B7 or a D7 ?

So I have recorded my take! I played exactly the same shapes that I gave you!
Here it is
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/
jeseej


I would like you to continue my idea for the same amount of bars I played it! Try to be as melodic as possible! Q&A technique works great for this track!
Please leave the rest of the backing track playing so I can add the next part!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!

Posted by: JesseJ Jul 6 2012, 06:42 PM

This is so sweet !!!! Okay here my part is smile.gif Let me know what you think !!

http://soundcloud.com/jessej-3/blues-rock-solo-part-1

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 7 2012, 05:35 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jul 6 2012, 05:42 PM) *
This is so sweet !!!! Okay here my part is smile.gif Let me know what you think !!

http://soundcloud.com/jessej-3/blues-rock-solo-part-1

You did a very good job! I like your ideas! Sounded very nice! I would suggest to play a little less in the beginning and try to build it up towards the end Question & Answer technique would work perfect for it!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!

Posted by: JesseJ Jul 7 2012, 03:03 PM

I just have 1 question. What is "Question and answer technique" ?

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 8 2012, 01:13 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jul 7 2012, 02:03 PM) *
I just have 1 question. What is "Question and answer technique" ?

It's very easy! You are playing a short phrase, you can do it in a lower register and than answering it with another phrase!
There are a few different types of question and answer technique
two - two
Playing two notes in a lower register and replying in a higher register with two notes as well

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Two - four
Playing two notes in a lower register and replying in a higher register with four notes

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You can keep going in even numbers! This technique will help you develop your solo so you don't show everything right away!
Very good technique to use when you are got caught on the spot and have to play something right away!

Posted by: JesseJ Jul 8 2012, 05:26 AM

Oh that is so awesome I will try this on my next turn ! I believe it is your turn next for the improvising .

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 9 2012, 06:08 PM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jul 8 2012, 04:26 AM) *
Oh that is so awesome I will try this on my next turn ! I believe it is your turn next for the improvising .

Hello! When I actually would like you to do another take using my advices I will be adding my take with new assignments to give you ideas! I am not gonna ask you to do million takes usually one extra take all what is needed to get the exercise right!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!

Posted by: JesseJ Jul 11 2012, 04:06 AM

So you want me to do another one ? Should I take the backing track that just has you soloing on it ?

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 11 2012, 04:21 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jul 11 2012, 03:06 AM) *
So you want me to do another one ? Should I take the backing track that just has you soloing on it ?

Yeah! If you can do another one would be great! Just continue after my take using my suggestions!
Please leave the rest of the track playing so I can add the next part also please make the track downloadable!

Posted by: JesseJ Jul 11 2012, 04:12 PM

How do I make the track downloadable ?

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 11 2012, 05:35 PM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jul 11 2012, 03:12 PM) *
How do I make the track downloadable ?

When you are uploading it to soundcloud there will be an option if you can figure it out just upload it here!

Posted by: JesseJ Jul 12 2012, 10:11 PM

Sorry this is a little off topic but when I found this out it hit me like a truck ! okay here is something I figured out about modes today. The shapes we worked on weren't actually modes of the G Major scale. The shapes we worked on was the G major Ionian mode. Which is also know as just plain old G major. But what I just figured out is I know these modes A Dorian mode, B Phrygian mode , C Lydian mode, D Mixolydian mode , E Aeolian mode, F# Locrian mode. Because the one thing these all have in common is the same notes. So If a song is in the key of D I can to play the D Mixolydian mode is the same thing as playing the G major scale, because D Mixolydian mode and the G major scale share the exact same scale shapes and notes !!!!!!!!! This means I already know every single mode !!!!!!!!!!!!!!



So if I am in the key of G major and I want to play the Phrygian mode all I have to do is play D# Ionian and I have played the G Phrygian mode !! Do you see what this means ? As long as you know the Ionian mode ( Which is the same on all keys just has a different starting note ) You know every mode ! And seeing as you already taught me the 3 note per string way to play the Ionian mode I know the fastest way to play every mode !! This is ground breaking technology smile.gif I am so excited to have made this discovery !!!! I am going to post a thread in the forum about this epicness !

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 13 2012, 12:54 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jul 12 2012, 09:11 PM) *
Sorry this is a little off topic but when I found this out it hit me like a truck ! okay here is something I figured out about modes today. The shapes we worked on weren't actually modes of the G Major scale. The shapes we worked on was the G major Ionian mode. Which is also know as just plain old G major. But what I just figured out is I know these modes A Dorian mode, B Phrygian mode , C Lydian mode, D Mixolydian mode , E Aeolian mode, F# Locrian mode. Because the one thing these all have in common is the same notes. So If a song is in the key of D I can to play the D Mixolydian mode is the same thing as playing the G major scale, because D Mixolydian mode and the G major scale share the exact same scale shapes and notes !!!!!!!!! This means I already know every single mode !!!!!!!!!!!!!!



So if I am in the key of G major and I want to play the Phrygian mode all I have to do is play D# Ionian and I have played the G Phrygian mode !! Do you see what this means ? As long as you know the Ionian mode ( Which is the same on all keys just has a different starting note ) You know every mode ! And seeing as you already taught me the 3 note per string way to play the Ionian mode I know the fastest way to play every mode !! This is ground breaking technology smile.gif I am so excited to have made this discovery !!!! I am going to post a thread in the forum about this epicness !

You are absolutely correct! Not sure what you meant
QUOTE
So if I am in the key of G major and I want to play the Phrygian mode all I have to do is play D# Ionian and I have played the G Phrygian mode
there is no D# in G phrygian (if you meant Eb you have to call it that because D# doesn't make sense)
That was the whole point of the exercise I gave you! A few students tried it already but only you and Maharzan got the point! This way is the easiest and fastest if you want to learn modes and scales! Just your brain has to understand it! Good job!

Posted by: JesseJ Jul 13 2012, 01:18 AM

QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Jul 12 2012, 11:54 PM) *
You are absolutely correct! Not sure what you meant
there is no D# in G phrygian (if you meant Eb you have to call it that because D# doesn't make sense)
That was the whole point of the exercise I gave you! A few students tried it already but only you and Maharzan got the point! This way is the easiest and fastest if you want to learn modes and scales! Just your brain has to understand it! Good job!


Yes I do mean Eb flat ! I see your point there. It was just that the GMC scale generator uses sharps not flats so I was thinking in sharps.

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 13 2012, 04:51 PM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jul 13 2012, 12:18 AM) *
Yes I do mean Eb flat ! I see your point there. It was just that the GMC scale generator uses sharps not flats so I was thinking in sharps.

You did a great job figuring it out!! Let me know how is the solo coming along and if you need any help or have questions!

Posted by: JesseJ Jul 16 2012, 10:27 PM

Well I was thinking that maybe before I make another solo I should learn that lesson you put out with 15 blues licks and then make my solo using ideas from there and the Q&A technique. I was thinking I could learn a lick day and record it and post it here for you. Maybe some days I could even do 2 licks a day ! What do you think of my idea ?

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 17 2012, 05:57 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jul 16 2012, 09:27 PM) *
Well I was thinking that maybe before I make another solo I should learn that lesson you put out with 15 blues licks and then make my solo using ideas from there and the Q&A technique. I was thinking I could learn a lick day and record it and post it here for you. Maybe some days I could even do 2 licks a day ! What do you think of my idea ?

This is a great idea!!! I love it!
What you can do to make lick your own just start jamming with a backing track you can play anything you want but also use lick that you are trying to learn! This is the easiest and fastest way to make it your own!!! I would love to hear what you will come up with!!! Let me know if you have any questions or need help!

Posted by: JesseJ Jul 17 2012, 02:55 PM

QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Jul 17 2012, 04:57 AM) *
This is a great idea!!! I love it!
What you can do to make lick your own just start jamming with a backing track you can play anything you want but also use lick that you are trying to learn! This is the easiest and fastest way to make it your own!!! I would love to hear what you will come up with!!! Let me know if you have any questions or need help!


I am a bit confused. To make a lick my own I just play my other improvising and throw the lick I learnt in there somewhere ?

Posted by: JesseJ Jul 17 2012, 07:09 PM

Okay here are the first 3 licks off the lesson
http://soundcloud.com/jessej-3/blues-licks-3of15

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 18 2012, 04:32 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jul 17 2012, 06:09 PM) *
Okay here are the first 3 licks off the lesson
http://soundcloud.com/jessej-3/blues-licks-3of15

Good job! I think if you will turn down distortion you will get more dynamic and will be able to develop a great touch! You have it already just need some polishing!
Also third lick sounded a little weird please check the notes!
Keep it up!
I also would like you to start using those licks in solos and jams! This way you will make them your own much faster!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 21 2012, 06:21 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jul 17 2012, 06:09 PM) *
Okay here are the first 3 licks off the lesson
http://soundcloud.com/jessej-3/blues-licks-3of15

Hi! I just wanted to follow up and see how are you doing? Do you have any questions or need help with anything? Let me know!

Posted by: JesseJ Jul 23 2012, 09:19 PM

Oh yah sorry for not responding for so long. I went back and fixed that third lick that you said to look at and learnt the 2 next ones. So now I know 5. 1/3 of the way there ! I will try to record them shortly.

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 25 2012, 10:16 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jul 23 2012, 08:19 PM) *
Oh yah sorry for not responding for so long. I went back and fixed that third lick that you said to look at and learnt the 2 next ones. So now I know 5. 1/3 of the way there ! I will try to record them shortly.

Perfect! I am looking forward to hear your take! smile.gif

Posted by: JesseJ Jul 29 2012, 02:52 PM

I am really sorry I have not put anything up yet. I have been very busy with work. Because I am in highschool I can only have a Casual job and I work kinda on and off but Lately I have been called in a lot. I will try to get one up soon .

Posted by: Alex Feather Jul 30 2012, 08:49 PM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jul 29 2012, 01:52 PM) *
I am really sorry I have not put anything up yet. I have been very busy with work. Because I am in highschool I can only have a Casual job and I work kinda on and off but Lately I have been called in a lot. I will try to get one up soon .

Take your time! Summer jobs are fun! smile.gif
Let me know when you are ready!

Posted by: Alex Feather Aug 8 2012, 08:49 PM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Jul 29 2012, 01:52 PM) *
I am really sorry I have not put anything up yet. I have been very busy with work. Because I am in highschool I can only have a Casual job and I work kinda on and off but Lately I have been called in a lot. I will try to get one up soon .


Hi I just wanted to check on you and see how the things are going? Do you have any questions or need help with anything? Let me know!

Posted by: Alex Feather Aug 27 2012, 08:11 AM

Hello! How are you? Are you ready for a new challenge? Let me know!

Posted by: JesseJ Sep 28 2012, 11:46 PM

Hi alex

Sorry for the 3 month late reply sad.gif I feel terrible for leaving you hanging for so long. If you still want me as a student I can pick up where we left off.

Posted by: Alex Feather Oct 1 2012, 02:11 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Sep 28 2012, 10:46 PM) *
Hi alex

Sorry for the 3 month late reply sad.gif I feel terrible for leaving you hanging for so long. If you still want me as a student I can pick up where we left off.

Of course I am happy to have you back! smile.gif
I am excited to continue and looking forward to keep mentoring you!

Posted by: JesseJ Oct 2 2012, 03:22 PM

Part of my problem was I just had to many mentors and was getting swamped with things to practice till I couldn't keep up. So I am just going to go with one mentor for now smile.gif So what should I work on? Those licks we were working on earlier?

Posted by: Alex Feather Oct 3 2012, 05:07 PM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Oct 2 2012, 02:22 PM) *
Part of my problem was I just had to many mentors and was getting swamped with things to practice till I couldn't keep up. So I am just going to go with one mentor for now smile.gif So what should I work on? Those licks we were working on earlier?

I think it would be cool to start getting into improvisation? What are your favorite styles?

Posted by: JesseJ Oct 14 2012, 09:41 PM

That's a tough question! Well I like pretty much all styles of music. But my favorite guitar player/ improviser is Mark Tremonti from alter bridge. The solo in Rise today is my favorite solo I have ever heard.



I put the link for the song up. The solo is at the very end.

http://youtu.be/ZYG3BPvFOgs

Posted by: Alex Feather Oct 16 2012, 08:34 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Oct 14 2012, 08:41 PM) *
That's a tough question! Well I like pretty much all styles of music. But my favorite guitar player/ improviser is Mark Tremonti from alter bridge. The solo in Rise today is my favorite solo I have ever heard.



I put the link for the song up. The solo is at the very end.

http://youtu.be/ZYG3BPvFOgs


Unfortunately I can't teach you copyrighted material but I can explain you how this solo was done what scales he used and what shapes so we will get pretty close to learning it! smile.gif
What do you think?

Posted by: JesseJ Oct 17 2012, 02:19 PM

That would be awesome! Like I mentioned it is my favorite solo so if I could learn the structure to it that would be amazing smile.gif Where do we start?

Posted by: Alex Feather Oct 17 2012, 09:12 PM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Oct 17 2012, 01:19 PM) *
That would be awesome! Like I mentioned it is my favorite solo so if I could learn the structure to it that would be amazing smile.gif Where do we start?

Give me a few days to transcribe it! I will let you know what's going on when I will sit with it for a little bit!

Posted by: JesseJ Oct 18 2012, 08:23 PM

QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Oct 17 2012, 08:12 PM) *
Give me a few days to transcribe it! I will let you know what's going on when I will sit with it for a little bit!


Sounds good. In the meantime I will keep running through those modes exercises you showed me .

Posted by: Alex Feather Oct 19 2012, 07:50 AM

QUOTE (JesseJ @ Oct 18 2012, 07:23 PM) *
Sounds good. In the meantime I will keep running through those modes exercises you showed me .

Awesome it is a very good exercise you will see a lot of progress if you are consistent!

Posted by: Alex Feather Oct 31 2012, 08:09 AM

Hi! So I think I am ready with the solo! smile.gif I transcribed it and it is not as complicated as it seems!
How the exercise is coming along? Are you ready to start working on the solo?
Let me know!

Posted by: Alex Feather Nov 30 2012, 03:32 AM

Hi I just wanted to follow up I transcribed tho and ready to explain it part by part I will also create a similar backing track for you to jam over just let me know when you are ready!

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