What Scales To Practise ?
aerohit
Jun 15 2007, 02:55 AM
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Hiya. In order to freely flirt with my guitar, I learned A major and all its modes all over the guitar. But I somehow am not able to produce the kind of noises that would please me. One of the probable reason is because I have not chosen the right scale. Can someone suggest what scale should I choose to begin with, to create some really tasty riffs and licks rock style.

To give a little hint, I like Led Zep, Metallica, Slash and all those rock and roll bands of the 70-80's. So probably some lightning on what scales they worked with would help.

Also, A minor pentatonic box seems to be a pretty popular box. May I know from which major scale,if at all, is it derived from?

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sb81
Jun 15 2007, 06:11 PM
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People have said Minor pentatonic for rock... that's the main scale I play with (being a guitar newb) and I typically play blues with the scale.

Any tips/suggestions how making it sound more rock, and less blues? Been trying to find a different scale to play to make it sound less bluesy, but haven't had much luck.

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QUOTE (sb81 @ Jun 15 2007, 06:11 PM) *
People have said Minor pentatonic for rock... that's the main scale I play with (being a guitar newb) and I typically play blues with the scale.

Any tips/suggestions how making it sound more rock, and less blues? Been trying to find a different scale to play to make it sound less bluesy, but haven't had much luck.


One way is through phrasing.

Phrasing is how we play notes, how we arrange them, how we use rythm, timing and how we articulate them.

In blues, most phrases are 'question and answer'- we play one line, and then answer it with a similar line. Check BB kings playing for many examples.

For Paul Gilbert esque- (yes i know im a fusion/jazz instructor but you gotta know you roots cool.gif), they are normally very repetitive, fast and included the b5 alot from the Blues scale. He plays around with patterns, so try making some patterns up based on the blues scale and minor pentatonic.

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QUOTE (benhowell @ Jun 15 2007, 01:35 PM) *
One way is through phrasing.

Phrasing is how we play notes, how we arrange them, how we use rythm, timing and how we articulate them.

In blues, most phrases are 'question and answer'- we play one line, and then answer it with a similar line. Check BB kings playing for many examples.

For Paul Gilbert esque- (yes i know im a fusion/jazz instructor but you gotta know you roots cool.gif), they are normally very repetitive, fast and included the b5 alot from the Blues scale. He plays around with patterns, so try making some patterns up based on the blues scale and minor pentatonic.

-Ben


This is actually the route I took to develop my playing from bluesy to a more rocky sound - I took the pentatonic and started adding legato passing notes - the famous blues flat 5 of course but others as well to give it a more regular feel. You end up putting in little chromatic runs between the scales notes which helps you with speed and regularity.

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- aerohit   What Scales To Practise ?   Jun 15 2007, 02:55 AM
- - JVM   QUOTE (aerohit @ Jun 14 2007, 07:55 PM) H...   Jun 15 2007, 03:14 AM
- - AIB234   a minor pentatonic and minor pentatonic would be t...   Jun 15 2007, 03:32 AM
|- - Andrew Cockburn   QUOTE (AIB234 @ Jun 14 2007, 10:32 PM) a ...   Jun 15 2007, 03:59 AM
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- - lespaulrocker   you'd probably want to learn the minor scale w...   Jun 15 2007, 06:58 AM
- - aerohit   Thanks for all the replies. But could someone plea...   Jun 15 2007, 08:44 AM
|- - Robin   QUOTE (aerohit @ Jun 15 2007, 07:44 AM) T...   Jun 15 2007, 09:10 AM
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- - aerohit   Thanks Robin for the link. But now I have an even ...   Jun 15 2007, 10:16 AM
|- - benhowell   QUOTE (aerohit @ Jun 15 2007, 10:16 AM) T...   Jun 15 2007, 12:25 PM
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- - benhowell   This is actually quite a complex question (i was t...   Jun 15 2007, 03:15 PM
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- - sb81   Thanks Ben & Andrew... so for rock, playing a ...   Jun 15 2007, 07:44 PM
- - benhowell   QUOTE (sb81 @ Jun 15 2007, 07:44 PM) Than...   Jun 15 2007, 08:12 PM
- - Leviathan   Can you guys show me all the pentatonic scales i s...   Jun 15 2007, 08:27 PM
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