(following info is from the Tritone Terror lesson..)
Just 2 chords - Em and A#6/-5 (-5 means flattened 5th). The second chord is built from A#, which is a Tritone in relation to E. However, it's quite interesting that the rhythm guitar only plays the note of A#, so how did I get that chord name ? Well, the keyboard plays two chords.. Em and Edim. The combination of the the Edim chord (E, G, A#) and the A# on the guitar and the bass mean that the root note is really the A#, hence the chord name.
For the solo, I decided to mainly use the E Pentatonic Minor and add the occasional flattened 5th. You could, however, use the Edim or A#dim scale over the A#6/-5 chord as they share the same notes. (also known as the whole tone-half tone scale)
So, over the Em part you could go the traditional route and play Em or EM pentatonic or you could experiment with some other E derived modes.. Phrygian dominant, try chucking a major 3rd in there as well as a flat 5th for that Geroge Lynch sound..
And for the A#6/-5 you could stick to Em Pentatonic with a flat 5th or you can use E diminished or A# diminished scales
Please remember that I will need both video and separately recorded audio from you so I can mix it in !
I recommend to upload audio (preferably mp3 of you can as it's smaller) mp3, wav etc to the thread.. and include a download link to the video footage in a pm.
Deadline for the collab will be Saturday 28th July !! Let's slay some Demons !!
Posted by: Opetholic Jul 14 2012, 02:08 PM
TT
Posted by: Gitarrero Jul 14 2012, 04:41 PM
Oh yeah...this is gonna be very special
Playing Diablo 3 again now to get in the mood for this one
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 14 2012, 06:23 PM
QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jul 14 2012, 04:41 PM)
Oh yeah...this is gonna be very special
Playing Diablo 3 again now to get in the mood for this one
Excellent.. I know you said you were going to give me the worst take this month but I'm hoping the backing track will tempt you to do otherwise....
QUOTE (Opetholic @ Jul 14 2012, 02:08 PM)
TT
I'm not sure what that means but it seems to be good !
Posted by: DeGroot Jul 14 2012, 06:42 PM
QUOTE (Opetholic @ Jul 14 2012, 01:08 PM)
TT
I think O is trying to illustrate a miniature table....?
Posted by: Pourliver Jul 14 2012, 07:19 PM
Damn, I really need a camera as soon as possible, this collab will be killer ( Demon "slayer, killer, get it ? )
Gitarrero, what's your BattleTag ?
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 14 2012, 07:33 PM
QUOTE (DeGroot @ Jul 14 2012, 06:42 PM)
I think O is trying to illustrate a miniature table....?
Like a sacrificial alter ??
Posted by: Opetholic Jul 14 2012, 07:42 PM
QUOTE (DeGroot @ Jul 14 2012, 05:42 PM)
I think O is trying to illustrate a miniature table....?
Haha man awesome guess but not quite Come on Ben ! You know what TT is some terrifying diminished 5th It is the backing track
Posted by: Gitarrero Jul 14 2012, 07:51 PM
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jul 14 2012, 07:23 PM)
Excellent.. I know you said you were going to give me the worst take this month but I'm hoping the backing track will tempt you to do otherwise....
Hmm...you have a point, I promised my worst take, so... BEHOLD!
As you might notice, I was clearly under the possession of a demon while recording this
Well it is certainly.. umm.. out of control !!!
QUOTE (Opetholic @ Jul 14 2012, 08:24 PM)
LOL Christian Clearly you need some exorcism *throw some holy water on Gitarrero and repeat* The power of Christ compels you!
Haha !! I'll join in..
The power of Christ compels you !!
Posted by: Gitarrero Jul 15 2012, 09:13 AM
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jul 15 2012, 10:12 AM)
Well it is certainly.. umm.. out of control !!!
That is the nicest thing I have ever heard about one of my own takes!
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 15 2012, 09:27 AM
QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jul 15 2012, 09:13 AM)
That is the nicest thing I have ever heard about one of my own takes!
Well, I can think of plenty of other nice things to say !!!
Posted by: Gitarrero Jul 15 2012, 09:30 AM
Haha, I thought so! That's what I love about the british people, they are always so nice. One day, when I'm grown up, I think I wanna live in the UK Now I will practice for the real take Hope that demon will leave me alone this time.
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 15 2012, 09:32 AM
QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jul 15 2012, 09:30 AM)
One day, when I'm grown up, I think I wanna live in the UK
Hahaha, why ???
You've been to the UK.
You live in Germany.
You have more sausages !
Posted by: HungryForHeaven Jul 15 2012, 09:37 AM
Holy hole! I guess I must hurry back home to get something recorded for this one.
Posted by: Gitarrero Jul 15 2012, 09:39 AM
Right, and probably the better beer (considering the fact that I don't like that certain brand you are endorsed by... ) When I'm comparing chicks in the UK and Germany...hm...it's a draw. Better move to California for hot chicks What was this topic about in the first place?
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 15 2012, 09:52 AM
QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jul 15 2012, 09:39 AM)
What was this topic about in the first place?
I can't even remember my name..... who are you ????
Posted by: Ulrik Jul 15 2012, 10:18 AM
This is my idea, what do you think. Are the notes and scales ok? I sometimes put some notes together, that not all people think go together!
I'll do a better take and an mp3 before deadline!
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 15 2012, 10:20 AM
QUOTE (Ulrik @ Jul 15 2012, 10:18 AM)
This is my idea, what do you think. Are the notes and scales ok? I sometimes put some notes together, that not all people think go together!
I'll do a better take and an mp3 before deadline!
Hell yeah man, that works !
Glad to have you on the collab !!
Posted by: Ulrik Jul 15 2012, 10:24 AM
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jul 15 2012, 11:20 AM)
Hell yeah man, that works !
Glad to have you on the collab !!
Thanks, glad to have a weekend with time to play alot
Posted by: Opetholic Jul 15 2012, 11:47 AM
How am I supposed to play a solo on this when I have a REC take of it not so long ago which is in my head and fingers and which I can't force myself to forget since that is probably the best solo you can play over this ?
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 15 2012, 12:43 PM
QUOTE (Opetholic @ Jul 15 2012, 11:47 AM)
How am I supposed to play a solo on this when I have a REC take of it not so long ago which is in my head and fingers and which I can't force myself to forget since that is probably the best solo you can play over this ?
Maybe that is the demon that you have to slay ??
Posted by: Opetholic Jul 15 2012, 01:14 PM
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jul 15 2012, 11:43 AM)
Maybe that is the demon that you have to slay ??
Oh man, I can't defeat my demons But you sir are not allowed to play any licks from TT ok ? I really would like to see you come up with something as great..
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 15 2012, 01:46 PM
QUOTE (Opetholic @ Jul 15 2012, 01:14 PM)
Oh man, I can't defeat my demons But you sir are not allowed to play any licks from TT ok ? I really would like to see you come up with something as great..
Don't worry, I won't revisit my own licks !!
Posted by: Ulrik Jul 20 2012, 09:27 PM
Now I did the audio. I changed the little tapping part a bit and put an ekstra note in the finishing riff.
So I just need to do a cool demonic video
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 21 2012, 10:20 AM
QUOTE (Ulrik @ Jul 20 2012, 09:27 PM)
Now I did the audio. I changed the little tapping part a bit and put an ekstra note in the finishing riff.
So I just need to do a cool demonic video
That is such a great solo, really atmospheric ! Did you double track the solo or is it an effect you used ?
Posted by: Ulrik Jul 21 2012, 09:18 PM
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jul 21 2012, 11:20 AM)
That is such a great solo, really atmospheric ! Did you double track the solo or is it an effect you used ?
Yes doubled it
Thanks, this is what I feel is my level of playing. REC i s fine, but being creative myself feels much better
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 22 2012, 11:26 AM
QUOTE (Ulrik @ Jul 21 2012, 09:18 PM)
REC i s fine, but being creative myself feels much better
I would agree with you.. being creative is the best part of being a guitarist.
Posted by: Gitarrero Jul 22 2012, 01:48 PM
After "Todd the Torturer" tortured any possible demons out of me last night in the video chat I recorded a new take. I used some of the crazy tapping stuff from the chat, so maybe I was possessed by the Todd demon. And just for you Ben, I put on my Demon Slayer costume...
Whoa I need to come up with some even more demonic!
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 22 2012, 02:30 PM
QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jul 22 2012, 01:48 PM)
Christian, from now on I want you to wear this costume in every collab !!
This is awesome.. and so is the solo !
And did I hear Cra..... nah, probably jut my imagination !
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 23 2012, 11:14 AM
Hey Guys, just to remind you not to forget to send me the download links to your videos ok ?
Posted by: HungryForHeaven Jul 23 2012, 11:36 AM
Ok, let's go!
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 23 2012, 12:41 PM
QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Jul 23 2012, 11:36 AM)
Ok, let's go!
This is a great take, great vibrato and control here !! Love the video too
Posted by: gregc1 Jul 26 2012, 12:52 PM
Here's my take. I'd like to refine it a little more but I'll be pretty busy over the next few days and wanted to go ahead with it since the deadline is getting close. Sounds like I had similar ideas as H4H, just not executed as well.
Ben, I've attached the audio files below but what is the best way to get the video to you as far as sites where I can put the video and send you a link to the file?
The other takes sound great and I know Mr. Higgins will add his special touch too so I'm looking forward to the final product. Have a good one guys!
damn that is good, mate. that's slaying demons all day long!
Posted by: Opetholic Jul 26 2012, 12:59 PM
Very cool Greg congrats. I enjoyed it, it is tasty but also pretty wild Unfortunately I can't contribute to this collaboration I still can't record myself so that I have good quality audio and video together.. I hopefully will fix that sometime soon though.. Cheers..
Posted by: gregc1 Jul 26 2012, 01:18 PM
Thanks Bleez and Opeth!
Bleez, this style is not really my forte but I'm glad it had a "demonic" sound to it and Opeth, thanks man, looking forward to hearing your crazy shredding in these too.
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 26 2012, 04:28 PM
QUOTE (gregc1 @ Jul 26 2012, 12:52 PM)
Here's my take. I'd like to refine it a little more but I'll be pretty busy over the next few days and wanted to go ahead with it since the deadline is getting close. Sounds like I had similar ideas as H4H, just not executed as well.
Ben, I've attached the audio files below but what is the best way to get the video to you as far as sites where I can put the video and send you a link to the file?
The other takes sound great and I know Mr. Higgins will add his special touch too so I'm looking forward to the final product. Have a good one guys!
Holy Diver... that is a great take !
You can upload your vid file to Rapdishare and then when it's done it'll give you a link which you can send me in a p.m.
I likey a lot. When we're done with this collab, there will be no Demons in this land. All the Exorcists will be out of a job..
Posted by: DeGroot Jul 26 2012, 06:37 PM
Amazing takes and videos Demonslayer's
Here is my take. Do you accept Mv4? I'm not too good with this video stuff yet. I put a weird effect on the video cause it came out way darker looking than I thought. I will porabably make a new one before deadline
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 26 2012, 06:59 PM
QUOTE (DeGroot @ Jul 26 2012, 06:37 PM)
Amazing takes and videos Demonslayer's
Here is my take. Do you accept Mv4? I'm not too good with this video stuff yet. I put a weird effect on the video cause it came out way darker looking than I thought. I will porabably make a new one before deadline
Wicked take D to the G !!
Bless your daughter for coming up to you to tell you to stop !!
Do you mean Mp4 ? Yeah, that'll be good
Posted by: Gitarrero Jul 26 2012, 07:06 PM
Looks like Ben is getting the best takes again!
Guys, we really need to give our best shots to one of the other instructors next time and leave Ben with something...less epic
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 26 2012, 07:07 PM
QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jul 26 2012, 07:06 PM)
Looks like Ben is getting the best takes again!
Guys, we really need to give our best shots to one of the other instructors next time and leave Ben with something...less epic
The thing is... you just can't help it. Even though you try to give me the worst, you end up giving me everything you can !!
Posted by: Gitarrero Jul 26 2012, 07:13 PM
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jul 26 2012, 08:07 PM)
The thing is... you just can't help it. Even though you try to give me the worst, you end up giving me everything you can !!
Right man...I even dressed up for this collab Although...let's not forget about the wild first take I gave you
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 26 2012, 07:45 PM
QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jul 26 2012, 07:13 PM)
Right man...I even dressed up for this collab
That's true... a German, leather outfit, bare knees... what more could I ask for ??
Posted by: DeGroot Jul 26 2012, 07:46 PM
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jul 26 2012, 05:59 PM)
Wicked take D to the G !!
Bless your daughter for coming up to you to tell you to stop !!
Do you mean Mp4 ? Yeah, that'll be good
This video file is listed as Mv4. Cosmin had a problem with it when I sent it to him for a collab... I'll PM you different file versions like last time and you can use whatever works.
My daughter can't verbally tell me to stop so she'll just tug on my shorts.
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 26 2012, 07:50 PM
QUOTE (DeGroot @ Jul 26 2012, 07:46 PM)
This video file is listed as Mv4. Cosmin had a problem with it when I sent it to him for a collab... I'll PM you different file versions like last time and you can use whatever works.
My daughter can't verbally tell me to stop so she'll just tug on my shorts.
Ok, cool.. we'll work a way around it somehow
Posted by: Ulrik Jul 26 2012, 08:01 PM
Super takes!!!
I didn't know what to do with this video, but then suddenly I turned into a fire demon!
Posted by: Gitarrero Jul 26 2012, 08:03 PM
Dude, did you just go topless for that take?? Cool
Posted by: Ulrik Jul 26 2012, 08:06 PM
We just had the only 3 days of summer in Denmark, I'm butt naked now.
...and I didn't have a demon costume.
Guess it's up to Ben to choose if the take is too much!
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 26 2012, 08:07 PM
QUOTE (Ulrik @ Jul 26 2012, 08:01 PM)
Super takes!!!
I didn't know what to do with this video, but then suddenly I turned into a fire demon!
That looks great !! Don't forget to send me a p.m. with a download link to the video !
Posted by: gregc1 Jul 26 2012, 08:14 PM
Damn, me and Degroot need to tighten up on our video making!
Posted by: Todd Simpson Jul 26 2012, 08:51 PM
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jul 26 2012, 03:07 PM)
That looks great !! Don't forget to send me a p.m. with a download link to the video !
NIce! THE DEMON LIVES!!!!!!
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 27 2012, 09:33 AM
QUOTE (gregc1 @ Jul 26 2012, 08:14 PM)
Damn, me and Degroot need to tighten up on our video making!
Haha, how can we all compete with an orange and pink Danish guy ??
Posted by: bleez Jul 27 2012, 11:15 PM
QUOTE (Ulrik @ Jul 26 2012, 08:01 PM)
but then suddenly I turned into a fire demon!
LOL! dont you just hate when that happens Cool vid, your hair kinda looks like flames!
hey hey Its my very first video collab! I wanted to have real fire burning in the video..... but my wife wouldnt let me, she's soooo 'mainstream'
Posted by: Gitarrero Jul 28 2012, 07:26 AM
QUOTE (bleez @ Jul 28 2012, 12:15 AM)
I wanted to have real fire burning in the video..... but my wife wouldnt let me, she's soooo 'mainstream'
Yes, those mainstream wives...they won't even let you set your own house on fire for the sake of an awesome video...
That skull looks really cool though, and the solo is great too!
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 28 2012, 10:10 AM
Great take ! I love the skull... Alchemy Gothic !!
QUOTE (bleez @ Jul 27 2012, 11:15 PM)
I wanted to have real fire burning in the video..... but my wife wouldnt let me, she's soooo 'mainstream'
Damn, that's a shame.. a little fire would have just topped it all off nicely !
Posted by: bleez Jul 28 2012, 11:29 AM
QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jul 28 2012, 07:26 AM)
That skull looks really cool though, and the solo is great too!
thanks dude.
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jul 28 2012, 10:10 AM)
Great take ! I love the skull... Alchemy Gothic !!
Indeed, Alchemy Gothic in the late 80's got most of my money!
Posted by: Ulrik Jul 29 2012, 05:17 PM
Can't wait for the mix
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 29 2012, 07:03 PM
QUOTE (Ulrik @ Jul 29 2012, 05:17 PM)
Can't wait for the mix
Video is almost ready !!
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 29 2012, 10:29 PM
Gentlemen, here it is !!!
Posted by: bleez Jul 30 2012, 12:01 AM
WOW! you guys played incredible solos no demonic soul is safe from that bad boy! Thanks Ben
Posted by: DeGroot Jul 30 2012, 05:39 AM
What did you do to me, Ben? Awesome... my video needed some enhancment for sure!
I think this whole video came out killer. Bleez, your opening line sounds so sinister. Great playing guys
Posted by: Ulrik Jul 30 2012, 06:30 AM
Very good result!
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 30 2012, 10:44 AM
Great playing from everyone.. well done !
QUOTE (DeGroot @ Jul 30 2012, 05:39 AM)
What did you do to me, Ben? Awesome... my video needed some enhancment for sure!
I messed around for a while and finally decided on Infrared !!
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 30 2012, 11:18 AM
As is customary after a collab, here is some feedback for y'all :
Gitarrero - nice use of Crazy Train again I like how you've gone for a full fire breathing take this month, full of AP, pick tapping etc. I would suggest to try to avoid having long pauses in solos as the listener can tell that you're 'preparing' for the next lick .. but that's all - good work !
H4H - Really cool to see you using some legato licks with occasional picking. Is some of it economy ? Can't tell. Anyway, nothing to really criticise or suggest really ! All good
Gregc1 - Love this take.. that lick at 1:24 is a beast ! Nothing to add - a classic solo from you
DeGroot - I love the beginning phrases.. I'm sure I heard a Testament lick in there ? Good mixture of slow and fast phrases which keep a solo interesting. Only thing I'd add is to watch out for sharp bends but that's all !
Ulrik - a very hypnotic and atmospheric take ! Love that video too Only suggestions I'd make are to try and time your phrases so you're hitting your intended target notes on strong beats and also to work on your picking/fretting co ordination a bit. I'd also repeat the same thing I said to Christian about leaving long pauses. Nice to welcome you to this collab !
Bleez - Nothing much to criticise in your take. If it were me, I probably wouldn't end notes so abruptly like at 3:14 without making it a harmonic or a slide, something with more impact. Either that or I'd make it a bit longer with some vibrato or something. I really dig those opening phrases, they're really anthemic and quite Metallica !
Overall, I really loved your input guys, I think we all made this a really sinister and cool track ! I can't see any demons around here now after we gave them a serious ass whooping !
Posted by: Gitarrero Jul 30 2012, 05:18 PM
Thanks for the feedback and the (once again) awesome collab! I know I promised my worst take...instead I decided to give you my best effort at higher speed playing
Well...there will surely be a new collab for a bad take Unless the backing track is so awesome again...
Posted by: jstcrsn Jul 30 2012, 05:28 PM
I Thoroughly enjoyed that hats off to everyone
on my way to watch that again
Posted by: bleez Jul 30 2012, 06:36 PM
thanks for the feedback ben, I totally see what you mean. Those slides you done around the 3:43 mark were badass, really effective.
QUOTE (DeGroot @ Jul 30 2012, 05:39 AM)
Bleez, your opening line sounds so sinister. Great playing guys
thanks dude I was really struggling to get started with it....... so I just tried to be Tony Iommi!
Posted by: gregc1 Jul 30 2012, 07:36 PM
Thanks for the comments Ben. I thought it came out great and had a blast hearing everybody's takes. See you guys on the next go 'round!
Posted by: Ulrik Jul 30 2012, 07:41 PM
Gotta practice, some good advice!
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 30 2012, 07:51 PM
QUOTE (bleez @ Jul 30 2012, 06:36 PM)
thanks dude I was really struggling to get started with it....... so I just tried to be Tony Iommi!
Ah that's more what I was thinking.. I said Metallica but yeah, I hear Iommi now
QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jul 30 2012, 05:18 PM)
Well...there will surely be a new collab for a bad take Unless the backing track is so awesome again...
I'll try and pump out a bad backing track to give you guys a rest next time yeah ??
Posted by: HungryForHeaven Aug 4 2012, 08:41 AM
Again, a really stunningly cool final result! All the takes are really classy and sound EVIL! Good job, guys.
Thanks to Ben and the other collaborators!
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jul 30 2012, 10:18 AM)
Is some of it economy ?
I think it's more of an "occasional AP" thing going on.
Posted by: Ben Higgins Aug 4 2012, 10:44 AM
QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Aug 4 2012, 08:41 AM)
I think it's more of an "occasional AP" thing going on.
I like that description.. I think I'll start using it as it describes my playing also !
"OK, so this week we're looking at some occasional AP licks !!"
Posted by: HungryForHeaven Aug 4 2012, 10:46 AM
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Aug 4 2012, 09:44 AM)
I like that description.. I think I'll start using it as it describes my playing also !
"OK, so this week we're looking at some occasional AP licks !!"
Posted by: HungryForHeaven Aug 11 2012, 12:29 PM
Just connecting to the "occasional alternate picking" thing.. I think this is how I do it: OAP.pdf ( 82.38K )
: 110
At string crossing, there are four pick strokes (I don't see why the fourth is necessary, really, but this is how I do it). The rest is legato, regardless of 2 or 3 notes per string.
Posted by: Ben Higgins Aug 11 2012, 01:05 PM
QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Aug 11 2012, 12:29 PM)
Just connecting to the "occasional alternate picking" thing.. I think this is how I do it: OAP.pdf ( 82.38K )
: 110
At string crossing, there are four pick strokes (I don't see why the fourth is necessary, really, but this is how I do it). The rest is legato, regardless of 2 or 3 notes per string.
Yeah that's quite similar to the kind of things I do... it works though doesn't it ?