How Good Are You At Riffing?, and how do you practice them?
Ivan Milenkovic
Jun 24 2011, 04:42 PM
Instructor
Posts: 25.396
Joined: 20-November 07
From: Belgrade, Serbia
I never considered myself a very good heavy metal riffage player, due to the fact I was hardly using it in my playing. However, it's very important to practice your palm muting and riffing chops.

How good are you at riffing?

What is your approach when practicing/coming up with riffs?

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
- Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
- Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons
- (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel
- Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
JVM
Jun 24 2011, 05:40 PM
Learning Roadie
Posts: 2.878
Joined: 2-June 07
From: Raleigh-Durham, NC
Not quite as good as at solo improvising, usually I'll start soloing with some arpeggios or single note patterns and double stops, but as I get into it I begin to incorporate more chords. I'm getting to the point where I can throw chords out and do chord melodies though, and power chords are of course quite easy to riff with. Palm muting is pretty good, picking is good enough for what I want to do usually. I think I'm going to practice improvised riffing right now!

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
Gear: Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster, Gibson '67 RI Flying V, Mesa Boogie F-30 112 combo, crazy pedals.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
MonkeyDAthos
Jun 24 2011, 05:42 PM
GMC:er
Posts: 2.979
Joined: 28-October 10
From: Portugal; Bombarral
not that bad me thinks, i can do tornado of souls riffage relaxed and master of puppets but only at 190-195 atm.
my main goal on riffin' is training dinamic!

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
QUOTE
It's a proven fact that guitar faces have a bigger impact on tone than wood does.


Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Daniel Realpe
Jun 24 2011, 08:29 PM
Instructor
Posts: 5.655
Joined: 11-October 09
From: Bogota
I consider myself really good, I just enjoy rhythm a lot. I play a bit of drums and I also think about odd time rhythms all the time in my head and also interesting ways of rearranging a 4/4 normal beat. Polyrhythms as they call them...

Technique wise, I just learned all of Metallica's repertoire. Why? because I loved their music too much...still sometimes to this day

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
Visit my:
INSTRUCTOR PROFILE

"If a composer could say what he had to say in words he would not bother trying to say it in music."
Gustav Mahler


Subscribe to my Youtube Channel here
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Sinisa Cekic
Jun 24 2011, 09:02 PM
Instructor
Posts: 4.649
Joined: 15-October 08
From: Belgrade,Serbia
For what interests me - I know enough smile.gif

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Cosmin Lupu
Jun 24 2011, 09:34 PM
Instructor
Posts: 22.808
Joined: 14-June 10
From: Bucharest
As Daniel said, I am in love with rhythm as well smile.gif to me, being groovie is more important than a lot of other things, so, yes, I can say that i can play polirhythms, divide a 4/4 beat in unusual ways and things like that. I love riffing in general - can't always do it as spontaneously interesting as I would like to, but, with a little work biggrin.gif it always comes out right!

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
thefireball
Jun 25 2011, 06:53 AM
Learning Roadie
Posts: 4.537
Joined: 9-March 10
From: United States, Arkansas
Yeah, riffing has come natural for me. I can adapt to new rhythms fairly well. But I almost always play in 4/4, so I'm kinda limited in that respect.

I recently learned a couple of more rhythms from listening to my favorite band, RED. It was hard to learn at first, but I also had the benefit of watching their YouTube lesson from the guitarist himself. smile.gif

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Attached File(s)
Attached File  2_RED_rhythms.mp3 ( 696.73K ) Number of downloads: 180
 
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Cosmin Lupu
Jun 25 2011, 08:20 AM
Instructor
Posts: 22.808
Joined: 14-June 10
From: Bucharest
QUOTE (thefireball @ Jun 25 2011, 05:53 AM) *
Yeah, riffing has come natural for me. I can adapt to new rhythms fairly well. But I almost always play in 4/4, so I'm kinda limited in that respect.

I recently learned a couple of more rhythms from listening to my favorite band, RED. It was hard to learn at first, but I also had the benefit of watching their YouTube lesson from the guitarist himself. smile.gif


Very good mate! I like the tone very much! I also like Red biggrin.gif

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Rated Htr
Jun 25 2011, 11:04 AM
Experienced Rock Star
Posts: 2.119
Joined: 15-October 07
From: Leiria, Portugal
QUOTE (Sinisa Cekic @ Jun 24 2011, 09:02 PM) *
For what interests me - I know enough smile.gif


Same here, at least in a metal context tongue.gif

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
Currently Practicing

Rhythm: Finnish Power Metal III: Nightwish
Legato: Ben's Land Of Legato
Alternate Picking: Alternate Picking Workout #5
Chords: Chord Melody Technique

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
zen
Jun 25 2011, 12:30 PM
Learning Tone Seeker
Posts: 1.138
Joined: 26-January 08
From: Melbourne, Australia
No matter how good one thinks he/she is.. There is always a new challenge waiting to test you (within the same technique).

Ivan, I can handle simple metal rhythms but working on developing the stamina for faster ones and also for odd time rhythms.
I don't practice them that much though. Only through songs I jam and cover.

But yes, I absolutely love rhythm guitars. smile.gif

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
"If the need is deep, you WILL find a way , if it isn't, you'll find some excuse"

Check out my Student Instructor Lesson on Metal Riffing HERE

Visit My Youtube Channel
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Ivan Milenkovic
Jun 25 2011, 12:48 PM
Instructor
Posts: 25.396
Joined: 20-November 07
From: Belgrade, Serbia
Those are some great thoughts guys! smile.gif

It may seem from this discussion that the more advanced your rhythm playing becomes, more evident is breaking away from regular 4/4 timing and creating more elaborate patterns?

Would you consider this true? If not (or not entirely) - what was the direction and way of progression in your riffing voyage?

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


This post has been edited by Ivan Milenkovic: Jun 25 2011, 12:48 PM


--------------------
- Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
- Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons
- (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel
- Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Cosmin Lupu
Jun 25 2011, 01:33 PM
Instructor
Posts: 22.808
Joined: 14-June 10
From: Bucharest
Well, it depends, I for one am not the adept of complicating things just for the sake of it smile.gif if something asks to be complicated from itself, it's just gonna come out that way, but I would never try to incorporate something complex just because I want to showcase something.

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Ivan Milenkovic
Jun 25 2011, 02:33 PM
Instructor
Posts: 25.396
Joined: 20-November 07
From: Belgrade, Serbia
QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jun 25 2011, 02:33 PM) *
Well, it depends, I for one am not the adept of complicating things just for the sake of it smile.gif if something asks to be complicated from itself, it's just gonna come out that way, but I would never try to incorporate something complex just because I want to showcase something.


Please forgive me if the impression was that as more advanced playing becomes, it tends to get complicated. This was not the intention.

The thing that I was curious about is to learn through what kind of steps does the riffing evolution goes through with players that have made progress with this technique. For example, starting with simple powerchords, then adding component here, or here, as time goes by. Hope it makes sense smile.gif

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
- Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
- Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons
- (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel
- Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Cosmin Lupu
Jun 25 2011, 03:09 PM
Instructor
Posts: 22.808
Joined: 14-June 10
From: Bucharest
QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Jun 25 2011, 01:33 PM) *
Please forgive me if the impression was that as more advanced playing becomes, it tends to get complicated. This was not the intention.

The thing that I was curious about is to learn through what kind of steps does the riffing evolution goes through with players that have made progress with this technique. For example, starting with simple powerchords, then adding component here, or here, as time goes by. Hope it makes sense smile.gif


Hey Ivan! Don't worry mate, I never looked at the question in that way smile.gif for me this process starts from hearing a certain riff in my head. After that, I lay down a drum track and start playing around with different combinations in that drum track and adapting the riff to it or viceversa.

I takes a little while, but the product is more important than the time taken I guess smile.gif

How does it work for you?

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Ivan Milenkovic
Jun 25 2011, 04:47 PM
Instructor
Posts: 25.396
Joined: 20-November 07
From: Belgrade, Serbia
Very similar way mate. Creating riffs out of something I'm singing during the day, something catchy. I just sometimes need to "snap out of it", remember the riff that was there, and write it down (often harder then it looks because I'm drifting most of the time and don't have that great memory biggrin.gif )

Although during the recording process, some alterations occur, so it's never certain how it will sound in the end. Sometimes it comes out good, sometimes doesn't. I've destroyer lots of cool riffs with poor drum programming in the early days of my composing voyage. Opposite to that, I've come to make some very cool ones by accident, while having one riff idea, programming drums, and recording something completely different on top of the drums. So, there are no rules, but it's basically very similar process. smile.gif

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


This post has been edited by Ivan Milenkovic: Jun 25 2011, 04:48 PM


--------------------
- Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
- Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons
- (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel
- Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
thefireball
Jun 25 2011, 06:38 PM
Learning Roadie
Posts: 4.537
Joined: 9-March 10
From: United States, Arkansas
QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jun 25 2011, 02:20 AM) *
Very good mate! I like the tone very much! I also like Red biggrin.gif


Cosmin, I wonder it you could do some lessons in the style of Red or Skillet? smile.gif

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Gabriel Leopardi
Jun 25 2011, 06:51 PM
Instructor
Posts: 36.043
Joined: 3-March 07
From: Argentina
I'm happy with my riffing technique nowadays but it has been a weakness in my early days... I dedicated too much time to solo techniques and not too much too riffing so then I had to balance that...

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
My lessons

Do you need a Guitar Plan?
Join Gab's Army

Check my band:Cirse
Check my soundcloud:Soundcloud

Please subscribe to my:Youtube Channel
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Cosmin Lupu
Jun 25 2011, 09:35 PM
Instructor
Posts: 22.808
Joined: 14-June 10
From: Bucharest
QUOTE (thefireball @ Jun 25 2011, 05:38 PM) *
Cosmin, I wonder it you could do some lessons in the style of Red or Skillet? smile.gif


HA! Sure biggrin.gif I'd love to do that! biggrin.gif

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
thefireball
Jun 26 2011, 02:26 AM
Learning Roadie
Posts: 4.537
Joined: 9-March 10
From: United States, Arkansas
QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jun 25 2011, 03:35 PM) *
HA! Sure biggrin.gif I'd love to do that! biggrin.gif


AWESOME!

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 




RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 29th March 2024 - 01:52 AM