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Aug 11 2009, 12:27 PM |
Pentatonic scale has 5 notes
but the foundation for that pentatonic is either major or minor scale. An example, A minor scale goes like this: A, B, C, D, E, F and G. Those are 7 notes, A is root, B is 2nd degree, C is minor 3rd degree etc. And A minor pentatonic scale goes like this: A, C, D, E and G. As you can see, some notes are missing compared to natural A minor scale. In other words, minor pentatonic has 5 notes and those notes are: root, minor 3rd, perfect 4th, perfect 5th and minor 7th. Those are degrees and intervals when you measure them starting from root note. Now speaking of chords, in a key of Am we would have Am (A C E) as a root chord, Dm (D F A) as 4th degree chord and Em (E G B ) as 5th degree chords. These chords are most simple ones called triads, made of 3 notes. And if you look at all those notes that we have in Am, Dm and Em you would find them all in A minor scale. 1-4-5 would be most common blues progression tho, E, A and B chords per example, root chord, 4th degree chord and 5th degree chord. This is also very common in many other genres, not just blues. And 9th note would be the same as 2nd degree but one octave higher. Lets find it from A in a key of Am. Scale goes like this, once more: A, B, C, D, E, F, G (then you continue in next octaves using the same notes) A, B, C, D, E, F, G etc. So an Am add9 chord would be: A (root), C (minor 3rd), E (perfect 5th) and B! A to A is an octave (8th) and after A we have B as 9th. This post has been edited by Muris Varajic: Aug 11 2009, 12:35 PM -------------------- Youtube
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Aug 11 2009, 12:34 PM |
"In the key of A we call the A chord for the one chord or the tonic chord, based on the first note scale.." Does he talk about the penta scale? If I play in the key of E, would that make the E chord the one chord aswell, based on where i started the progression? Thats right, a 12 bar blues uses the 1,4 and 5 chord in a key. If we are in the key of E, E is our one chord and the 4 and 5 chords would be relative to that. Often the chords used will all be dominant 7th chords, which theoretically dont work together but sounds great in a blues context, so the progression would use the chords E7, A7 and B7 (X7 is how you say a dominant chord with root note X) "When you go to the fourth note of the scale, you have a D. We call it a four chord" But if i play the penta at the key of A, the D is the third note....?Why do you call it a four chord? A------(5) E ------5----8 "Then the E is right next to the D, so we call it the five chord." Um....I dont get it....Do i measure the notes from the penta scale or what. Why is it called the the five chord? And how can it be right next to D? Dont we have flats or sharps in between? Now this'll take a little background. This A blues is not actually based on the pentatonic scale, but the slightly longer scale it is derived from. The minor pentatonic scale is essentially a shortened version of the minor scale. The formula for a minor scale is: 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7 (in A this would be A B C D E F G no flats or sharps in A minor which is nice ) however the trusted pentanic scale uses only five of these notes, 1 b3 4 5 b7, In A that'd be A C D E G So now you can see that the 4 and 5 chords would be the 4th and 5th chords in the A minor scale, but the pentatonic is something that is often used to solo over it. Like i said above in a blues context these chords (in the key of A) would be A7 D7 and E7, but this is just a bluesy way of playing it, if we were to be "strict" and take the chords out of the key of A minor "diatonically" b harmonising the scale and making chords- we would have Am Dm and Em. ninth note, is actually the second note in the scale! the major and minor scales have 7 notes, so when we count up them 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 we can continue and say that 8 is just the root note (1) just one octave higher, 2 would be the 9! When including the 2nd or 9th in a chord we always right 9 (im not sure why!) unless we are talking about a suspended chord which is written sus2 (it is essentially a regular 1,3,5 chord but the 3 is dropped down to a 2, so it is 1,2,5- it sounds great!) Please let me know if you'd like me to elaborate more on any of these points, theres a huge resource (where i learned all my theory from) right here at GMC, check andrew's theory board they make a great read! In particular refernece to your questions i feel that once you have enough theoretical background to understand everything leading up to and including this artcile by Andrew https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...?showtopic=3630 then this kind of thing will be a piece of cake But looks like ive been beaten anyway lol |
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Aug 11 2009, 12:45 PM
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Thank you all so much!!!!
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