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Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Sep 8 2011, 04:59 PM
Sep 8 2011, 04:59 PM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	Since it's truly a never ending subject, let's see what you guys think would be the greatest problem you're facing when it comes to the dreaded modes! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

Nihilist1 View Member Profile	Sep 8 2011, 07:23 PM
Sep 8 2011, 07:23 PM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 977 Joined: 1-September 11 From: Chino Hills, California	QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 8 2011, 03:59 PM) Since it's truly a never ending subject, let's see what you guys think would be the greatest problem you're facing when it comes to the dreaded modes! Would a mode be better suited for it's own key(i.e. D minor/D Dorian)? Or would I be better off using that D Dorian in a C Major key? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- All the elders have fallen down... Heal her now... All the elders have fallen down... Heal her now... Grandfather elk Turned to me And spoke: Light the fire deep inside. Light the fires!

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Sep 8 2011, 07:34 PM
Sep 8 2011, 07:34 PM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	I guess it depends on the context - I usually look at modes as different sound textures, so if I want to highlight a certain flavor over a chord i choose some notes belonging to a mode who'll provide the needed flavor. if you have a Dm7 vamp you can jam Dorian over it until you drop but if you have a Dm7 G7 CM7 progression, you can highlight the Dorian mode and the Mixolydian mode and conclude in the Ionian mode if you'd like - I see it as a matter of note choices You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

Nihilist1 View Member Profile	Sep 8 2011, 07:53 PM
Sep 8 2011, 07:53 PM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 977 Joined: 1-September 11 From: Chino Hills, California	QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 8 2011, 06:34 PM) I guess it depends on the context - I usually look at modes as different sound textures, so if I want to highlight a certain flavor over a chord i choose some notes belonging to a mode who'll provide the needed flavor. if you have a Dm7 vamp you can jam Dorian over it until you drop but if you have a Dm7 G7 CM7 progression, you can highlight the Dorian mode and the Mixolydian mode and conclude in the Ionian mode if you'd like - I see it as a matter of note choices Thanks! I had actually been thinking about this question for a few days. This was the perfect thread. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- All the elders have fallen down... Heal her now... All the elders have fallen down... Heal her now... Grandfather elk Turned to me And spoke: Light the fire deep inside. Light the fires!

MonkeyDAthos View Member Profile	Sep 8 2011, 08:01 PM
Sep 8 2011, 08:01 PM	GMC:er Posts: 2.979 Joined: 28-October 10 From: Portugal; Bombarral	i understand the thoery behind it i but i have a hard time applying them :c guess i am to lazy to memorize some scales forms and stuff You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- QUOTE It's a proven fact that guitar faces have a bigger impact on tone than wood does.

Nihilist1 View Member Profile	Sep 8 2011, 08:41 PM
Sep 8 2011, 08:41 PM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 977 Joined: 1-September 11 From: Chino Hills, California	QUOTE (MonkeyDAthos @ Sep 8 2011, 07:01 PM) i understand the thoery behind it i but i have a hard time applying them :c guess i am to lazy to memorize some scales forms and stuff If you map them out the way they do in the guitar grimoire, then learning the shapes is super simple! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- All the elders have fallen down... Heal her now... All the elders have fallen down... Heal her now... Grandfather elk Turned to me And spoke: Light the fire deep inside. Light the fires!

MonkeyDAthos View Member Profile	Sep 8 2011, 08:46 PM
Sep 8 2011, 08:46 PM	GMC:er Posts: 2.979 Joined: 28-October 10 From: Portugal; Bombarral	QUOTE (Nihilist1 @ Sep 8 2011, 08:41 PM) If you map them out the way they do in the guitar grimoire, then learning the shapes is super simple! still that doesn't solve my lazyness ahah You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- QUOTE It's a proven fact that guitar faces have a bigger impact on tone than wood does.

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Sep 8 2011, 09:42 PM
Sep 8 2011, 09:42 PM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	We just had a little exercise in the v-chat who allows you to listen to the differences between certain modes in a harmonic context you'll find details in the v-chat topics thread in the following days! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

Nihilist1 View Member Profile	Sep 8 2011, 10:34 PM
Sep 8 2011, 10:34 PM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 977 Joined: 1-September 11 From: Chino Hills, California	QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 8 2011, 08:42 PM) We just had a little exercise in the v-chat who allows you to listen to the differences between certain modes in a harmonic context you'll find details in the v-chat topics thread in the following days! Thanks Cosmin! I am always at work when the V-chats go on, so I never get to see them. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- All the elders have fallen down... Heal her now... All the elders have fallen down... Heal her now... Grandfather elk Turned to me And spoke: Light the fire deep inside. Light the fires!

djohnneay View Member Profile	Sep 8 2011, 10:53 PM
Sep 8 2011, 10:53 PM	GMC:er Posts: 385 Joined: 8-February 09	One of the biggest problems I have is recognizing modes. If you're talking about E minor (E aeolian) a song can sound what I could call 'somewhat sad'. But another song, using the same key and scale, sounds 'heartbreaking melodramatic'. I understand that the essence lies mostly in the chord progression (Em-C-G-Em versus Em-Bm-F#dim-Em) for instance (iirc, the latter sounds alot sadder). But sometimes it's just hard finding the tonal center (or tonic/key) and figuring out the scale just by listening. Is there any kind of trick/rule of thumb that can be used? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! --------------------

Todd Simpson View Member Profile	Sep 9 2011, 02:41 AM
Sep 9 2011, 02:41 AM	GMC:er Posts: 25.297 Joined: 23-December 09 From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA	You can help your ear training by just listening to a song and picking up your guitar and trying to find the "Root" note. Once you find it, take a stab at the scale, see how many scales you fit over the song. Which ones sound better? Just practicing this "By Ear" method can really help. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- EVERY QUICK LICK! http://bit.ly/quicklickswithtodd MY INSTRUCTOR FORUM MY SHRED JOURNEY (BOOTCAMP) LESSON NOTES/TABS MY INSTRUCTOR PROFILE @ GMC ME @ YOUTUBE.com ME @ Instagram.com ME @ TWITTER

El Fortinero View Member Profile	Sep 9 2011, 03:40 AM
Sep 9 2011, 03:40 AM	GMC:er Posts: 359 Joined: 4-June 11 From: Argentina	May i ask about chords theory not related with the modes??................. So, in a minor scale: the first chord is a minor, the second diminshed, third major, fourth and fifth minor, and sixth and seventh major in a major scale the chords armony is 1:major, 2minor, 3 minor, 4 y 5 major, 6 minor and 7 diminshed so far so good, my question is: when and where I can add a maj or min 7 ?, is there any rules? for instance, "if you change the X chord for a maj o min 7 you will get "a blues " cadence........ i know that i colud add to the fifth grade chord in a major scale a 7th minor but really don't know how to "Mix" this things... i am not sure if it is clear what i am trying to say..... Otherwise, i ´ll try it to say again with differnt words. Muchas gracias Cosmin! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- WWW.GROOVERMETAL.COM.AR

Satchstet View Member Profile	Sep 9 2011, 04:04 AM
Sep 9 2011, 04:04 AM	GMC:er Posts: 31 Joined: 19-June 11	QUOTE (El Fortinero @ Sep 9 2011, 02:40 AM) May i ask about chords theory not related with the modes??................. So, in a minor scale: the first chord is a minor, the second diminshed, third major, fourth and fifth minor, and sixth and seventh major in a major scale the chords armony is 1:major, 2minor, 3 minor, 4 y 5 major, 6 minor and 7 diminshed so far so good, my question is: when and where I can add a maj or min 7 ?, is there any rules? for instance, "if you change the X chord for a maj o min 7 you will get "a blues " cadence........ i know that i colud add to the fifth grade chord in a major scale a 7th minor but really don't know how to "Mix" this things... i am not sure if it is clear what i am trying to say..... Otherwise, i ´ll try it to say again with differnt words. Muchas gracias Cosmin! Going with a Major scale the 7th harmony is as follows..... I=Maj7 ii= min7 iii=min7 IV=Maj7 V= Dom7 vi=min7 vii*=min7b5 You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Daniel Realpe View Member Profile	Sep 9 2011, 04:36 AM
Sep 9 2011, 04:36 AM	Instructor Posts: 5.655 Joined: 11-October 09 From: Bogota	I think it's all about experimenting with them, spending time discover the sound of each mode, and that's how you get familiarized with them You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Visit my: INSTRUCTOR PROFILE "If a composer could say what he had to say in words he would not bother trying to say it in music." Gustav Mahler Subscribe to my Youtube Channel here

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Sep 9 2011, 07:53 AM
Sep 9 2011, 07:53 AM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	QUOTE (Satchstet @ Sep 9 2011, 03:04 AM) Going with a Major scale the 7th harmony is as follows..... I=Maj7 ii= min7 iii=min7 IV=Maj7 V= Dom7 vi=min7 vii*=min7b5 Yup, correct! This is the way you can harmonize the major scale by using chords which include the 7th! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Sep 9 2011, 08:29 AM
Sep 9 2011, 08:29 AM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	Well, the problem I had before is because I wasn't really honest to myself. I needed to really sit down, learn each mode individually on the neck, play some chords, see what mode works over what it's very important. In general, I don't think modes are so "important", these are only ranges of notes. I think people have most problems in connecting complete patterns with chordal positions. Once a player determines what chord belongs to what key, modes are piece of cake. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Ivan Milenkovic: Sep 9 2011, 08:30 AM -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

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