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Posted by: Caelumamittendum Mar 9 2010, 08:50 PM

Been using (or not using...) Cubase for as long as I can remember, but I've come to terms with that I don't find it as user friendly as other DAWs seem to be when watching videos etc. of them in use.

What are your suggestions? smile.gif

Posted by: MickeM Mar 9 2010, 09:04 PM

I never came to like Cubase myself. What I look for in a DAW is that it's intuitive. You just know what to do and how to do things.

Sony ACID was very user friendly, but sucked the resources out of my compuer. Made it impossible to use.
Now I'm on Samplitude 10 and love it. Easy to use, works the way I like it to. Has the flow I'm looking for.

We're all different and it's difficult to really reccomend what's good, since we're all using DAW's differently and what works for me might not work at all for someone else.

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Mar 9 2010, 09:11 PM

Sure, man. I just feel Cubase is a bit of a hassle to work with. I'd like something more... I'm tempted to say "drag-and-drop"-ish, but still not like...some cheesy program, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: OzRob Mar 9 2010, 10:59 PM

QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Mar 10 2010, 06:11 AM) *
Sure, man. I just feel Cubase is a bit of a hassle to work with. I'd like something more... I'm tempted to say "drag-and-drop"-ish, but still not like...some cheesy program, if you know what I mean.


I'm using Mixcraft 4.5 and 5. Very drag-and-drop and very intuitive to use. Relatively cheap but packed with useful features. Utilises VST plugins beautifully but 5 is a recent release and currently has a problem with several third-party plugins.

Posted by: opeth.db Mar 9 2010, 11:06 PM

I know Repear is pretty popular.. there are some freee ones too.
http://www.cockos.com/reaper/

Free.
http://www.kreatives.org/kristal/index.php

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

http://www.anvilstudio.com/

Posted by: Staffy Mar 9 2010, 11:10 PM

I think it depends on which user-level You want to work on. I dont find neither Pro-tools, Logic or Ableton any easier than Cubase. If You wanna work on a top-level feature wise, they are all a little bit messy imo. Maybe You shall try a light version of Cubase? If You don't need that many features, why don't try reaper or Sweet Little Sixteen? They are cheap and will work for most recording situations in a home environment.

//Staffay

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Mar 9 2010, 11:31 PM

I have been working manly with Cubase and Nuendo and when I tried Pro Tools or Reaper I was really lost. Truth is that Cubase (or Nuendo) are top notch DAW to work with...You just have to explore it a bit and what really helps is working with some Tutorials for it in order to learn basic features...

I don't really find them messy or anything, they just need some time to get used to...

Posted by: Emir Hot Mar 11 2010, 02:43 AM

I am a "Sonar" fan and trully vote for it.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Mar 11 2010, 02:47 PM

I work with Nuendo, and after viewing Steinberg's official tutorials for it (Internar Mixing, and mastering, something like that...) I find it very easy to work with. Don't know what can be the problem with Cubase, specially the 4 and after versions (since they allow drag & drop on the mixer inserts, and all kinds of new features). If you really don't like it, try something like Sonar possibly.

Posted by: tonymiro Mar 11 2010, 03:24 PM

QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Mar 11 2010, 02:47 PM) *
I work with Nuendo, and after viewing Steinberg's official tutorials for it (Internar Mixing, and mastering, something like that...) I find it very easy to work with. ...


Good idea Ivan -

there are lots of video/DVD, magazine and book tutorials for Cubase. Often with a complicated daw (and all the major ones are complicated) a lot of what it can do and workflow shortcuts aren't apparent from the official manual so it can really help to have these things laid out in a tutorial.

I'd also generally agree with Bogdan - switching to another daw might not help. You will have to learn a whole new interface and workflow and you'll have to forget the tricks/shortcuts that are Cubase specific. Generally I'd suggest switching to a different daw only if it does something specific that yours doesn't and/or really does give a greatly improved workflow for you. With the workflow the only way to know is to test it and that means you need to get a demo/lite copy to play with.

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Mar 11 2010, 09:34 PM

QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Mar 11 2010, 02:47 PM) *
I work with Nuendo, and after viewing Steinberg's official tutorials for it (Internar Mixing, and mastering, something like that...) I find it very easy to work with. Don't know what can be the problem with Cubase, specially the 4 and after versions (since they allow drag & drop on the mixer inserts, and all kinds of new features). If you really don't like it, try something like Sonar possibly.


Well, I'm still on version 3. laugh.gif

Posted by: Keilnoth Mar 11 2010, 10:09 PM

I am an Ableton fan. I've tried a lot of DAW but couldn't find anything easier than Ableton.
You can try it for free. smile.gif

Posted by: UncleSkillet Mar 11 2010, 10:20 PM

I can't really recommend anything because I'm in the same boat as you. Been using Reaper and I feel like I just need something else so I can be more creative and productive.

I've just started looking into Sequel 2 and for me I'm thinking this looks pretty cool. Maybe it will work for you also. Check out the links.

http://www.steinberg.net/en/products/musicproduction/sequel_2.html
http://www.sequel-music.net/en/home.html

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Mar 11 2010, 10:34 PM

QUOTE (UncleSkillet @ Mar 11 2010, 10:20 PM) *
I can't really recommend anything because I'm in the same boat as you. Been using Reaper and I feel like I just need something else so I can be more creative and productive.

I've just started looking into Sequel 2 and for me I'm thinking this looks pretty cool. Maybe it will work for you also. Check out the links.

http://www.steinberg.net/en/products/musicproduction/sequel_2.html
http://www.sequel-music.net/en/home.html


Looks great man and something like that what I had in mind!

I'll try the trial in one of these days.

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Mar 17 2010, 06:22 PM

Nuendo is pretty intuitive in my opinion, then again Sonar was good too....but my vote is for nuendo

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