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Announcement : Behavior Towards Instructors, All members should read this
Andrew Cockburn
Nov 15 2007, 10:28 PM
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Announcement


There have been in the last week or so 3 regrettable unrelated incidents in which our instructors have been the target of disrespectful activities. Whilst I wont go into details, suffice it to say that Kris, Tony & I are saddened by this.

Our instructors are what breathes life into the site. Without the hard work of every one of them GMC would be a lot less than it is today, and they occupy a position of honor within GMC, for their achievements and willingness to help us all.

Kris works hard to keep the new instructors coming in and working with them to ensure they make a good start with the high quality lessons that are a hallmark of GMC. Occasionally we lose instructors as they reluctantly decide to move on, so Kris can never stop his search for new instructors.

Given the above, it should be no surprise that we are particularly upset about the disrespect that has been shown to our instructors in the cases mentioned above. If this were to continue, and an instructor were to leave because of something a member said or did, the whole of GMC would suffer.

For this reason, please observe the following guidelines, and don't force us to take action in this area.
  • Lesson comments are a great way of giving feedback to instructors on how much you liked their lesson, and to provide suggestions on what you would like to see in future. Please keep all comments positive and constructive (especially if you see elements that need to be improved). Negative comments will be immediately deleted, and action will be taken against the member involved
  • GMC does encourage feedback about its instructors. If you have an issue or concern about an instructor please do not make public comments. Instead, report the matter privately by PM to Kris or any moderator and we will take it seriously
  • The instructors forums and sub-forums are the personal space of the instructor concerned. On an instructors board behave as you would if you were in their house. Show respect to the Instructor and do not flame or argue in their forums no matter what the provocation. Any such posts will be immediately deleted, and action will be taken against the members concerned.
  • On the boards in general, Instructors are due the courtesy and respect that would be afforded to any other member and more. Disrespect to instructors on the general boards will be treated in exactly the same way as above.
I am personally sad that I have had to make this announcement - we will be enforcing the above policy rigorously from now on.

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Fsgdjv
Nov 15 2007, 10:58 PM
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This may be a stupid question, but I don't think I really understood it completely. Are we supposed to treat instructors as we treat everybody else (wich is according to the rules and everything), or are we suppose to be extra super nice to instructors on the boards in general?

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Kristofer Dahl
Nov 15 2007, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE (Fsgdjv @ Nov 15 2007, 10:58 PM) *
or are we suppose to be extra super nice to instructors on the boards in general?


Yes yes yes!! That's it! biggrin.gif Good summary!

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Chris Evans
Nov 15 2007, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE (Fsgdjv @ Nov 15 2007, 09:58 PM) *
This may be a stupid question, but I don't think I really understood it completely. Are we supposed to treat instructors as we treat everybody else (wich is according to the rules and everything), or are we suppose to be extra super nice to instructors on the boards in general?


Shouldnt we just be super nice to everybody??

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Fsgdjv
Nov 15 2007, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Nov 15 2007, 10:59 PM) *
Yes yes yes!! That's it! biggrin.gif Good summary!

Ok biggrin.gif

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mattacuk
Nov 15 2007, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE (Smells @ Nov 15 2007, 10:00 PM) *
Shouldnt we just be super nice to everybody??


Absolutely! smile.gif

I have my own general guidelines that I like to follow when posting on the boards.

The main one being that I only tend to comment when I belive it benfits the community. If I disagree with a member, I dont comment on it, I just try to respect that everyone has there own veiws.

At the end of the day, people worldwide will always disagree on topics and issues, so i feel it is best for me to accept that and just move on. smile.gif

When i was younger, I always wanted to get my point of veiw across - but as i have gotten a little older, doing so just does not matter to me one bit.

We have such an awsome community here, and I hope it stays this way for many many years to come!


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Muris Varajic
Nov 15 2007, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE (Smells @ Nov 15 2007, 11:00 PM) *
Shouldnt we just be super nice to everybody??


This explains everything,well said Chris!!! smile.gif

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Kristofer Dahl
Nov 15 2007, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE (mattacuk @ Nov 15 2007, 11:11 PM) *
Absolutely! smile.gif

I have my own general guidelines that I like to follow when posting on the boards.

The main one being that I only tend to comment when I belive it benfits the community. If I disagree with a member, I dont comment on it, I just try to respect that everyone has there own veiws.

At the end of the day, people worldwide will always disagree on topics and issues, so i feel it is best for me to accept that and just move on. smile.gif

When i was younger, I always wanted to get my point of veiw across - but as i have gotten a little older, doing so just does not matter to me one bit.

We have such an awsome community here, and I hope it stays this way for many many years to come!
Matt


Those are some excellent guidelines - no wonder your posts always are a joy to read! biggrin.gif

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mattacuk
Nov 15 2007, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Nov 15 2007, 10:25 PM) *
Those are some excellent guidelines - no wonder your posts always are a joy to read! biggrin.gif


Thankyou Kris, I am honoured to be part of you Community! smile.gif

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dogman
Nov 15 2007, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE (Fsgdjv @ Nov 15 2007, 04:58 PM) *
This may be a stupid question, are we suppose to be extra super nice to instructors on the boards in general?



QUOTE (Muris @ Nov 15 2007, 05:22 PM) *
This explains everything,well said Chris!!! smile.gif



I dont mind sucking up once in a while wacko.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif

All kidding aside, I have been working alot so I missed what ever caused this. It is really a shame that it will come down to having being policed because a few people dont understand the concept of dont bite the hand that feeds you and/or treating others as you'd like to be treated whether you agree or agree to disagree:(

After all, it is kinda like a 2nd family here now smile.gif

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Chris Evans
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QUOTE (dogman @ Nov 15 2007, 10:54 PM) *
I dont mind sucking up once in a while wacko.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif

All kidding aside, I have been working alot so I missed what ever caused this. It is really a shame that it will come down to having being policed because a few people dont understand the concept of dont bite the hand that feeds you and/or treating others as you'd like to be treated sad.gif

After all, it is kinda like a 2nd family here now smile.gif


Totally m8, I`m a fairly new member here and the help I`ve received in such a short space of time is fantastic and I already feel part of something, I read a few of the posts in question and was gutted, I`m glad it was stamped on so swiftly before it tainted my own personal experience of GMC.

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Muris Varajic
Nov 16 2007, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE (dogman @ Nov 15 2007, 11:54 PM) *
I dont mind sucking up once in a while wacko.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif

All kidding aside, I have been working alot so I missed what ever caused this. It is really a shame that it will come down to having being policed because a few people dont understand the concept of dont bite the hand that feeds you and/or treating others as you'd like to be treated whether you agree or agree to disagree:(

After all, it is kinda like a 2nd family here now smile.gif



This policy isn't something hard to follow I believe . smile.gif
Just do it as you used to do and you'll be fine,like whole community as well. smile.gif
All this is caused by few harder replies in my sub-board between two members,
it's ok now tho and I'm sure this policy is fine guide,
not just here at GMC but for general good behavior as well. cool.gif

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Andrew Cockburn
Nov 16 2007, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE (Muris @ Nov 15 2007, 06:00 PM) *
All this is caused by few harder replies in my sub-board between two members,


And there were a couple of other incidents as well Muris - we wanted to get ahead of it before it became a trend.

But just as you say - treat everyone with respect, instructor or not, think before you post and there will be no problem.

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Muris Varajic
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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Nov 16 2007, 12:06 AM) *
And there were a couple of other incidents as well Muris - we wanted to get ahead of it before it became a trend.


Didn't know that Andrew sad.gif
Anyhow,I'm sure this will help a lot!!! smile.gif

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QUOTE (Smells @ Nov 15 2007, 04:58 PM) *
I read a few of the posts in question and was gutted, I`m glad it was stamped on so swiftly before it tainted my own personal experience of GMC.


Same as you Smells, the ones in question left me feeling quite hurt. I don't enjoy having to edit or take action against a member but sadly at times it's necessary in order to maintain the community that we've come to enjoy.

Being super nice is a good way of putting it btw - being nice to some one face to face is great - when we can't see each other we're more likely to misunderstand what the other person means or feels and so super nice is a good way to go smile.gif .

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Guidelines are just fine, good thing to point it out! smile.gif

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One of the reasons I love GMC so much is because everyone is so nice to eachother. I would hate to see that change. Being mean and disrespectful to other members and instructors does not get anything productive done. I hope this issue does not come up in the future.

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Dear Friends,

We live in a society , with live with people just like us , if we want respect we have to treat with respect the other people around is very simple.

And I call you friends because thats what I think you are to me , I treat you like I treat my friends here in Colombia, with respect, simple and fun.

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Now I know this is partially my fault, but I want everyone to understand that I was not the one who started the argument. I did say something that offended someone in a way that was not intended. I would therefor like to apologize to everyone that had to deal with this, mainly Muris, Tony, and Andrew for the trouble they went through with this.

I hope all apologies are accepted and that there are no longer any hard feelings.

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That's sad to hear that we had problems but I think that it's ok to have a well explained policy.
I have to say that I have found lots of good friends here and I had never any problem here. I'm glad of the positive energy that everybody has in this site. So I'm very surprised of knowing that we had some problems.

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