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GMC Forum _ Marcus Lavendell _ Vibratos In Bends
Posted by: Francis Viviers Sep 3 2007, 08:03 PM
This is something i really struggle with. Whats the best way to appoach doing this ?
Posted by: Nick325 Sep 4 2007, 11:22 AM
i also have problems with this it seems to make my bend go out of tone
help us plz
Posted by: MickeM Sep 4 2007, 03:42 PM
Try this.
First bend to the note you're supposed to. Hold it for a ms or two and then apply vibrato. i think the key is to find the note before any bending vibrato takes place. The more accurate you get the quicker you'll be finding the note.
EDIT: Error, I exchanged "bending" with vidrato
Posted by: Francis Viviers Sep 4 2007, 04:23 PM
QUOTE (MickeM @ Sep 4 2007, 04:42 PM)
Try this.
First bend to the note you're supposed to. Hold it for a ms or two
and then apply vibrato. i think the key is to find the note
before any bending takes place. The more accurate you get the quicker you'll be finding the note.
Yeah i know that. I can bend to pitch fine. Its just i cant get the vibrato part going
Posted by: Nick325 Sep 4 2007, 11:44 PM
QUOTE (Francis Viviers @ Sep 4 2007, 11:23 AM)
Yeah i know that. I can bend to pitch fine. Its just i cant get the vibrato part going
same
Posted by: Bedlam Sep 5 2007, 12:02 AM
I'm having the same problem!
Posted by: MickeM Sep 5 2007, 12:03 AM
OOOOPS, I didn't notice this was the "Ask an instructor board" but though it was a general question.
Sorry for wasting your time guys!
Posted by: Nick325 Sep 5 2007, 12:12 AM
u didnt waste our time u tryed to help but we need marcus
Posted by: Francis Viviers Sep 5 2007, 04:49 PM
QUOTE (Nick325 @ Sep 5 2007, 01:12 AM)
u didnt waste our time u tryed to help but we need marcus
Haha yeah!
Posted by: blindwillie Sep 6 2007, 12:47 AM
QUOTE (MickeM @ Sep 5 2007, 01:03 AM)
OOOOPS, I didn't notice this was the "Ask an instructor board" but though it was a general question.
Sorry for wasting your time guys!
Hahaha! I'm not alone now!
Posted by: shredmandan Sep 6 2007, 01:36 AM
QUOTE (Nick325 @ Sep 4 2007, 06:22 AM)
i also have problems with this it seems to make my bend go out of tone
help us plz
I'm not Marcus
But i can give you my opinion.Nick you say your bends go out of tone.Thats because your bends must be presice to the exact note your going for.You should practice and really understand what 1/4 ,, 1/2 and 1full bends are.Example alot of times on these vibrato's you will be playing you will strike at 7th fret but after the bend you will be making it sound like your hitting the 9th fret.Thats a 1full bend .You have to practice it to get exact control when your vibrating it in and out that pitch.
Maybe you get it if not im sure Marcus will be around before the day's over.
Posted by: lavendell Sep 6 2007, 03:21 AM
Some great advise from Shredmandan and MickeM here! Thanks!
This has been discussed on another thread, and this was basically what I answered there:
* Don’t press down the string too hard, you only need to press it hard enough that you don’t “drop” it. The harder you press it, the more tense you’ll be, and you’ll lose control over the string.
* Work on finger exercises (GripMaster or similar) to strengthen the muscles.
* If you bend the string with your ring finger – then of course it’s ok to place the index- and middle finger on the string as well, to support.
* Use a lighter string guage
Most important though is that you set your mind to how you want it to sound. Kind of like hearing the sound/vibrato "in your head"
-Marcus
Posted by: MickeM Sep 6 2007, 05:07 AM
QUOTE (blindwillie @ Sep 6 2007, 01:47 AM)
Hahaha! I'm not alone now!
lol I gladly share the shame with you.
Posted by: Ryan Sep 6 2007, 05:46 AM
QUOTE (Eat-Sleep-andJam @ Sep 5 2007, 11:28 PM)
Marcus and others made some great points here
I struggled with this for awhile but I finally got it done after lots of practice.
One thing I suggest is to always have your thumb kind of over the neck and not in the back, It may be common since to most but I believe that without proper grip of the neck itself , you wont get the bends and the vibrato down.
And if your not getting it dont worry ! Great Vibrato comes with lots of time !
And a scalloped fretboard What im wondering is. That do you use yoru wrist when doing bend vibrato, or your fingers??
Posted by: Nick325 Sep 6 2007, 06:45 AM
QUOTE (shredmandan @ Sep 5 2007, 08:36 PM)
I'm not Marcus
But i can give you my opinion.Nick you say your bends go out of tone.Thats because your bends must be presice to the exact note your going for.You should practice and really understand what 1/4 ,, 1/2 and 1full bends are.Example alot of times on these vibrato's you will be playing you will strike at 7th fret but after the bend you will be making it sound like your hitting the 9th fret.Thats a 1full bend .You have to practice it to get exact control when your vibrating it in and out that pitch.
Maybe you get it if not im sure Marcus will be around before the day's over.
i no how to bend to tone but its seems like when i vibrato my bends it takes it
out of tune
thanks for the tips marcus
Posted by: JVM Sep 6 2007, 07:06 AM
QUOTE (Nick325 @ Sep 5 2007, 05:45 PM)
i no how to bend to tone but its seems like when i vibrato my bends it takes it out of tune
thanks for the tips marcus
Thats because you need to vibrato above and below the bend mark, for example if you bend 7 to 9 as mentioned earlier, you need your vibrato to waver above and below the 9 (aka your vibrato needs to go beyond the normal bend). You probably already know that but just know that it takes a lot of finger strength to control it, so keep practicing.
Posted by: Francis Viviers Sep 7 2007, 02:42 PM
QUOTE (Eat-Sleep-andJam @ Sep 6 2007, 06:28 AM)
Marcus and others made some great points here
I struggled with this for awhile but I finally got it done after lots of practice.
One thing I suggest is to always have your thumb kind of over the neck and not in the back, It may be common since to most but I believe that without proper grip of the neck itself , you wont get the bends and the vibrato down.
And if your not getting it dont worry ! Great Vibrato comes with lots of time !
And a scalloped fretboard Seems like i have a new exercise to incorporate into my practice schedule ... I must say this is one of the trickiest techniques to get down. I always have my thumb over the neck nways as im not a shredder and play mostly blue type things.
Thanks for the great info guys!
Posted by: Nick325 Sep 12 2007, 07:52 AM
im getting it down now becuase i decided to try bending down not up and it helps
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