 Alternate Vs Economy Picking, ..the old, old question |
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 Jan 28 2008, 04:29 PM
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Hi guys
Strange things happened: a friend of mine started playing guitar but he isn't alternating clear, he just picks "randomly" like he wantes, it's a kind of economy picking - i don't know. I suggested him to go for good old clean alternate picking - he asked me "why"? And I had nothing to answer  After having told him the stuff I believed personally ( more equal sound etcetc ) he recorded some stuff for me and - to be honest I can't hear any unqequality in his picking / playing. That made me think; what is the "true" advantage of alternate picking? my guitar teacher made me learn it, but by now, I seem not to have understood it at all I'd be very pleased for help! GIVE ME MY CONFIDENCE IN ALTERNATE BACK!!!  greetings -------------------- If you think you understood what I said, you neglect that the things you hear, are different from the thing I thought of. - Got it?
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Jan 28 2008, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE (fire @ Jan 28 2008, 05:29 PM)  Hi guys Strange things happened: a friend of mine started playing guitar but he isn't alternating clear, he just picks "randomly" like he wantes, it's a kind of economy picking - i don't know. I suggested him to go for good old clean alternate picking - he asked me "why"? And I had nothing to answer After having told him the stuff I believed personally ( more equal sound etcetc ) he recorded some stuff for me and - to be honest I can't hear any unqequality in his picking / playing. That made me think; what is the "true" advantage of alternate picking? my guitar teacher made me learn it, but by now, I seem not to have understood it at all I'd be very pleased for help! GIVE ME MY CONFIDENCE IN ALTERNATE BACK!!! greetings On higher bpms(120 16th notes +) alternate picking produces a much more even and strong sound than economy picking, atleast that is my experience with it, I also used to only economy pick until recently. -------------------- |
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Jan 28 2008, 05:10 PM
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Random picking is a bad thing and should be avoided! A good technique is based on rules and routines. It's like driving in 1st gear and switching to 3rd straight away. Why? It doesn't work!
Stick to alternate picking or economy picking but in no way a RANDOM picking. You should be able to play both AP and EP but at least you know what you are doing than. He doesn't know what he is doing so you'll be a REAL guitarist - and he'll be a RANDOM guitarist 
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Jan 28 2008, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE (Pavel @ Jan 28 2008, 04:10 PM) Random picking is a bad thing and should be avoided! A good technique is based on rules and routines. It's like driving in 1st gear and switching to 3rd straight away. Why? It doesn't work! Stick to alternate picking or economy picking but in no way a RANDOM picking. You should be able to play both AP and EP but at least you know what you are doing than. He doesn't know what he is doing so you'll be a REAL guitarist - and he'll be a RANDOM guitarist Very well put Pavel 
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Jan 28 2008, 05:16 PM
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I think I remember Kris explaining that by alternate picking you are following a natural flow of things! (at least thats how i remember it
 ) Either way It would seem pretty crazy to try and play any technical stuff with random picking. I just point out to my friends that all the pros alternate pick so if its good enough for them its good enough for me --------------------   mysql> SELECT * FROM master_name WHERE ((firstname = 'Paul') AND (lastname = 'Gilbert')); "The Fundimental Difference between Paul Gilbert and Buckethead is that Paul Explores the Good side of the force, while Buckethead Explores the Dark Side of the Force" :) |
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Jan 28 2008, 05:18 PM
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Wasn't there a huge thread about this a while ago?
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Jan 28 2008, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE (RIP Dime @ Jan 28 2008, 04:18 PM) Wasn't there a huge thread about this a while ago? I think so 
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Jan 28 2008, 05:22 PM
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Jan 29 2008, 04:25 PM
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GMC:er Group: GMC Wiki:er Posts: 196 Joined: 1-August 07 From: Germanyż Member No.: 2.453 |
thanks for all the answers
First of all the argument with the speed seems nice to me... sounds idiotic, but i never played different at that speeds, and he can't yet so I wasn't aware of it  gonna convince him with that hehe thanks -------------------- If you think you understood what I said, you neglect that the things you hear, are different from the thing I thought of. - Got it?
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