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Do you believe in a God or Gods?
Theist [ 47 ] ** [36.43%]
Agnostic [ 25 ] ** [19.38%]
Atheist [ 44 ] ** [34.11%]
Other [ 13 ] ** [10.08%]
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SamJ
post Mar 21 2008, 02:02 PM
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I'm a bit bored and was interested in how many GMC'ers are religous.

Theist - believes in the existence of a God or Gods
Agnostic - isn't sure about the existence of a God or Gods
Atheist - does not believe in the existence of a God or Gods
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Goliath
post Mar 21 2008, 02:19 PM
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I responded before reading your definitions. I replied Agnostic not so much because I doubt a creator so much as I doubt religion. Plus I build churches. I get to see what goes on behind close doors really made me appalled by these so called "religious leaders" who are the absolute biggest hypocrites I have ever met.


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post Mar 21 2008, 02:32 PM
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post Mar 21 2008, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE (Muris @ Mar 21 2008, 08:32 AM) *
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same. besides the fact that as mysterious physical reality is to our puny brains, the implications of not believing in some God to who you are answerable are not acceptable.

If one says he is an atheist, well if you can takes someones money and bash in his head, and feel you can get away with it, why not do it? Makes no sense to hold back, if you really can get away with it. You are saying you are a spider, take what you can, if you can get away with it, do it. If you kill a million people, what is the big deal, you are an atheist after all. Nothing to answer for. Only thing you have to ask yourself is, "can I get away with it".

That is why you do not be an atheist, the implications are not acceptable. It does not matter if believing is correct or not, all that matters is that you believe.


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QUOTE (fkalich @ Mar 21 2008, 02:46 PM) *
same. besides the fact that as mysterious physical reality is to our puny brains, the implications of not believing in some God to who you are answerable are not acceptable.

If one says he is an atheist, well if you can takes someones money and bash in his head, and feel you can get away with it, why not do it? Makes no sense to hold back, if you really can get away with it. You are saying you are a spider, take what you can, if you can get away with it, do it. If you kill a million people, what is the big deal, you are an atheist after all. Nothing to answer for. Only thing you have to ask yourself is, "can I get away with it".

That is why you do not be an atheist, the implications are not acceptable. It does not matter if believing is correct or not, all that matters is that you believe.

Hmm, if i understood you correct, you mean that atheists cant be moral? And basically atheists can just run around kill and rape people because there isnt any ultimate justice? Just checking if i got it right.


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QUOTE (Robin @ Mar 21 2008, 08:50 AM) *
Hmm, if i understood you correct, you mean that atheists cant be moral? And basically atheists can just run around kill and rape people because there isnt any ultimate justice? Just checking if i got it right.


no, we put them in prison if they do that.

I am saying that a true atheist is totally amoral by definition. it is simple logic.


I am not saying you are amoral. You probably just THINK you are an atheist. Really you are not.

But a true atheist is like Stalin. No problem killing 20 million for political gain. That is true atheism.


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