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post May 6 2008, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ May 6 2008, 03:29 PM) *
Probably note choice...million dollars question I would say.
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QUOTE (PlayAllDay @ May 5 2008, 10:50 AM) *
Oh dear - I don't have any weaknessess at all... tongue.gif

Seriously I do have some trouble performing a good first finger vibrato in the forearm twisting fashion. Have you any tips for that Daniel - I really think I just haven't put in enough hours yet for it to feel easy, but any extra info could help.



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I don't use this vibrato much at all but when i have i can say for sure its less about finger strength as it is forearm strength. Which is the reason i tend not to use it. I have small forearms and wrists hence wimpy. A friend of mine uses this vibrato almost exclusively. He worked on building up his forearm with a weight. What he did was tie a string to a 5 pound weight and just lift the weight up and down by turning his forearm while resting his arm on a chair arm. Make sure you lock your finger straight before execution so it all comes from the wrist.

I have found when trying this vibrato that the vibrato is much more pronounced, which means you can hear very clearly if your going out of pitch. Be very careful that your movement is smooth and even, because even the slightest flutter from your finger or guitar movement can throw your pitch out.

Again also i mention as i did above to someone else make sure your vibrato fluctuations are close to a natural tempo against whatever it is your playing.

Another thing to point out about vibrato in general is you don't always have to do it right away. Think of vibrato like you would a singers voice. When they land on a long note the vibrato doesnt always start immediately. Try land dead on a pitch and holding it for a second then vibrato, try different lengths before starting to use it. It can add huge impact of emotion to the playing just by changing that subtle thing.

Thats the best advice i can give you on the subject since i don't personally use that vibrato myself, but i am sure there are others here who do who might be able to help you beyond what i have stated.

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QUOTE (rokchik @ May 5 2008, 11:17 AM) *
Fantastic topic Daniel smile.gif

As for my weaknesses well I think I may crash GMC if I list them all tongue.gif wink.gif But some of what I've been trying to correct lately is my alternate picking - same as Andrew said the cleanliness and speed. I've noticed as well since I started recording myself that I tend to cut notes short, I don't let them ring so I've been working on that a lot the last few days and my vibrato is horrible, again something I noticed since I started recording. Those are just a few I've been trying to improve lately but the list goes on and on my friend.

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Well if you crash GMC its for all the right reasons wink.gif

Anyway i have posted several thoughts on the AP aspect of playing with previous people so just peruse those for some insight. As well as vibrato.

On the cutting notes short problem i had this problem alot my first year or two i started playing. And just like you i didnt realize it till i heard myself recorded.

What i did find though was causing this issue was having to think too hard about where i was going. Trying to cram too many notes into a phrase and still staying in key was the issue. At that point i started using much shorter phrases but trying to get alot more out of them. You can take a 4 or 5 note phrase and speak volumes if you take the time to get across a specific feeling rather then a million notes that cover alot of ground.

The other thing partly of what i said above, when you do start using more notes in a phrase at least for now try not to cover too much ground on the neck as it adds to the problem because part of the cutting off of the notes has to do with having to do rapid posistion changes on the neck and to compensate for your skill your jumping the gun to get your hand into place.

Its all about training muscle memory so that later you can cover a huge span of the neck in a solo without really thinking much about where your fingers are going and you can concentrate on the attitude of what your playing rather then the execution. Which is where all good players really need to live. If you can play a million notes semi well people listening to it won't get the same out of as if you can play 3 or 4 notes with all your emotion, with conviction and attitude. Thats where your creativity and your inner spirit are revealed to the audience in a very intimate way and you connect with them on a very deep level.

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QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ May 5 2008, 11:27 AM) *
I have extreme rythm problems because I can't stand to use the metronome.



I know alot of people that feel the same way Zakk,

My advice to help you is to create some simple Backing tracks for yourself at very specific BPM, then work on your scales, rhythm and solo patterns, in a very "Metronome" fashion over the backing tracks. This way its more like playing music and less like practicing.

This is doing two things for you, first of all its helping to correct your timing issues, and secondly your learning to train your ear to hear different intervals and such within the key your playing.


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QUOTE (USAMAN @ May 5 2008, 11:32 AM) *
Endurance in downward picking...If I try to play master of pppets all down-picking my arm will explode.

Not being strict enough with my alternate picking....I cheat....alot.......



The only thing that can help endurance is repitition, i wish there was a magic switch i could flip for ya, or give some nifty exercise. But really the only thing you can do for this is just keep pushing your downpick speed levels. But for this you not only need to downpick faster but you need to do it for longer periods of time. I would suggest putting together a specific excersise for yourself that has you downpicking for at a close to your max speed for say 1 and a half minutes. Then every few days increasing the BPM by a couple notches and lengthening the time by 20 seconds. This way your slowly increasing your speed at the same time your increasing your endurance to do it.

As for cheating with alternate picking, we have all been there you have to just mentally spank yourself into really working thru it.

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QUOTE (Canis @ May 5 2008, 11:39 AM) *
I have a lot of weaknesses... But if I were to pick one major one, I'd say it's playing along with a backing track.. I always play faster or slower then the backing track is made for. Example: I've "mastered" Marcus' Pentatonic Solo, but when I play along with the backing track, I'm never at the point I should be. Like in the middle there, the backing track get's faster, but I'm allready past that part or not yet there. Been looking at Kris' metronome lesson now and then to get some repetation on how to use the rhythm..

Other weaknesses is bending and vibrato.



Canis,

I can certainly understand this happening. This generally is a mental awarness thing, once you learn the solo licks and can play them you have to really pay attention to the song your playing along with rather then focusing all your attention on what your playing. A big part of music is listening to and assimilate what everyone else is doing. Try to pick out certain things in the song that give you landmarks to go by, for instance lets say you hear a certain drum fill. Know exactly what follows that drum fill so that your always in the right place at the right time. If you find your self drifting too far try to find "landmarks" that are much close together. There will always be some subtle clue on the music map where your supposed to be at any given time. Even if you have to do it on a chord by chord basis.

Lets say in your instance with Marcus' lesson, what part of the lick is played over chord 1, what lick is played over chord 2 what lick is played over chord 3. Then you hear a drum fill...what lick is played after that drum fill. Its all about listening to the backing track for those landmarks.

I know i went thru a similar problem, where i was so focused on my hands that i forgot to listen to what was going on in the song i was playing.

As far as vibrato i have said several things on vibrato to other people above, so just look around for some ideas.

Bending,

There are two things you have to work on for bending. One is pitch correction, a good practice for this is to play a note, doesnt matter where for sake of arguement play on the G-string on the 12th Fret, this way you can hear that note freshly in your mind, now move down to the 10 fret and bend right up to that 12th note. Go back and forth between the plucked note and the bent note working on making sure the pitch your bending up to is dead on. After awhile of doing this with different intervals bending will become alot easier because you will have done it so often that you have trained yourself with muscle memory of exactly how much pressure you need to apply to the string to hit the note you want to hit. After awhile it becomes second nature. Just keep training your ear to the pitch for now so you can train your fingers to hit the correct pitch on demand.

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QUOTE (audiopaal @ May 5 2008, 11:59 AM) *
I think I'm pretty average in most things, and the only thing I think I'm great at is rythm guitar..
I will work on playing solos to get better at that at the moment but there will always be thinks to get better at, even my rythm guitar playing so I don't see it as weaknesses, only problems to be solved smile.gif



Thats a great attitude to have audiopaal, i find now i work on things that strike my fancy. I spend a great deal of time listening to different kinds of music, and i use the inspiration from things that i have heard to develop my own interpretation of those ideas, and 9 times outta 10 i have to work on a specific element of my playing to get those points across.

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post May 6 2008, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE (Siggum @ May 5 2008, 12:18 PM) *
Got many weaknesess, for example fast alternate picking with clean notes, arpeggios, vibrato and a bunch of theory.




For fast Alternate picking i would suggest 2 excersises, first just using a metronome set it at close to your max picking speed, and just practice your picking hand on an open muted string. Work diligently to get the picking itself to be as clean and precise as you can get it. Keep pushing the speed up in small increments over a few days. Then when you have reached a good level there.

Go back to the speed you started at and just play two notes back and forth kinda like a trill, but pick each note, with alternate picking, work your way up over the next few days to the speed you stopped at. Once you have done that start adding notes.

The big key to fast clean alternate picking is perfect syncronizing of right and left hands once you can do this at a good speed with a small amount of notes just keep adding 1 note every few days pretty soon your playing 11 12 note patterns at a good clip.

As far as arps go, hand posisition is very important when trying to execute fast arps, especially non-sweeped arps. Again use the method as above for arps that you did with the AP excersise, just practice the string transistion with muted open strings with a metronome so you get those "pick clicks" smooth and uniform, then start adding real notes, start with like 3 note arps to begin with and do them both sweeped, and AP'd so you can practice both at the same time and slowly add more and more notes


As for vibrato just read some of the things i said to others about vibrato, pick a technique thats pleasing to you and perfect it.

QUOTE (Zizi Top @ May 5 2008, 01:39 PM) *
i think i have a lot of weakness when i go to vacation, so i stop electric guitar for about 2 weeks, and then come back, so it's like i've forgotten everything, and i have to play about 10 hours (maybe more) just to try to get back to what i can do
i also got a big weakness while singing and playing guitar at the same time, i can do it with easy chord progression.



There are alot of people who have trouble with this Zizi your not alone, my advice for this is to get yourself something you can take with you on vaction when you cant have your guitar. Get one of those finger strengthning devices that you can carry around with you at least this way you can keep your finger strength up even if you cant practice on a guitar.

Something like this little thing

http://www.prohands.net/?gclid=CMOZs_mhkpMCFQJtlgod53T6hA

As far as singing and playing guitar at the same time i can't help you much in that department i can't do it myself very well either. But then again in never professed to be a vocalist smile.gif

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Thank you very much Daniel for your response smile.gif

Amazing advice and so so helpful. I have noticed that I tend to rush to get my fret hand into position but never really put two and two together. Thank you for pointing this out. I've read through your other posts and well I think this thread is one of the most informative to date. A lot of very valuable information and advice.

Great job Daniel smile.gif

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Strumming; nice simple strumming on the acoustic...for the life of me I can't get motivated to practice this, even though I know how important it is. I always end up cranking up the distortion and just practicing the "fun" stuff...power chords, solo's, pinch harmonics, improv, tabs for songs, etc.
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Well my main weakness is playing an other guitarist's solo in right timing. I can learn riffs and stuff and play them 1:1 when I want to but I just can't learn a solo and play it the way that other guitarist felt it. And this is a big problem because when we do some covers with my band I always make the solo different and it's not exactly in time this messes things up..

Other thing that's my weakness is Sweep Picking because the only way I can make each note sound perfectly is playing really slow but I do it every day so in the end I will be playing perfect Sweeps. It's a matter of time..

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QUOTE (audiopaal @ May 6 2008, 09:08 AM) *
Yes, but that's Muris, I'm speaking for the rest of us laugh.gif

I bet Muris can make 10 finger tapping ! laugh.gif


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Thanks very much for all the points you metion in this thread Daniel (and for my vibrato advice) - it's great and getting better with each new topic addressed.
I would actually like to see a video lesson on vibrato - on the actual mechanics of playing each different type so if other Instructors as well are reading please consider it. smile.gif


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PAD, actually there are some very good lessons on vibrato from the master himself - Marcus Lavendell :]

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...sson1/index.htm

Here's the first one, it has links to the other parts.

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my weakness on the guitar is picking. some days are very very good. and every once in a while there are 1 - 3 days in a row, where it just wont succeed no matter how slow i do it and how much i warm up, it just doesnt stay tight. sad thing unsure.gif


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QUOTE (Nobody @ May 7 2008, 11:02 PM) *
PAD, actually there are some very good lessons on vibrato from the master himself - Marcus Lavendell :]

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...sson1/index.htm

Here's the first one, it has links to the other parts.

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Thanks Hristian - I shall check them out smile.gif


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QUOTE (DeepRoots @ May 5 2008, 04:31 PM) *
Hmm..weaknesses...

I'd say my sweeping has gone downhill because i've practised nothing but alternate picking for a while..also my legato could be waay better.

One thing i need to start practising is finger-picking, i played the greensleeves lesson a while back and stopped practising fingerpicking for some unknown reason..

Also..im not great working over chord changes, like changing scale but keeping in the same position not just moving around the same shape to different positions.

All will come with time tough i am sure biggrin.gif

Good idea for a topic btw, now i know what to get practising right away tongue.gif



Like i said to Andrew...we make the time for whats important to us and the rest falls by the wayside.

Maybe sweeping isnt as important to you as AP or Legato. I think after a time certain techniques fall away because we don't use them for expression. Music is about expression and we all express ourselves in different ways. For me sweep picking is intregal to my expressing myself.

As far as finger picking is concerned, finger picking correctly is hard, i would suggest finding someone who is highly skilled in this area to learn from. For me my brother is a great inspiration in fingerpicking. His main influence is Mark Knopfler. Not only that he has played for so long without a pick that when i ask him where i put my pick down he looks at me like i am speaking an alien language smile.gif (like what the hell is a pick?)

I think Muris has some good lessons on Fingerpicking you should ask him for some advice in his instructor threads.

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QUOTE (Nick325 @ May 5 2008, 04:37 PM) *
i would say my sweeping, 5 string more than 3 string, because i cant really start to speed up while mutting. i always seem to lift my palm. and maybe a little tapping but im practicing it a lot more (cause it sounds awsome wink.gif )



Nick,

Blocking string noise can be a real pain in the butt i know! But what you have to learn is how to control not so much your palm as you have to develop a better left hand muting technique. Although palm muting is a big part of sweep picking left hand finger muting is just as important. You need to slow down and work on that "rolling" action of your fingers so that as you sound a note you deaden the string as you release. You don't full pull off the string entirely right away.

Think of it like this..you fret a note and immediately let the string come off the fret but don't take your finger off it and place your palm then release. Its this give and take between palm and finger that gives the sweep its tightness.

I would practice finger muting on 3 string sweeps and gradually add more notes. Its such a subtle movement on the part of your fretting hand it shouldnt take you long to get the hang of it.

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Daniel, i'm seeing some of the best one-on-one advice on the forum in this thread, thanks for taking so much time out to help us all smile.gif
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QUOTE (Gus @ May 5 2008, 08:50 PM) *
Sweep picking, definitely...

I gave it more than one try, but I always lose motivation.
Maybe I am too addicted to alternate picking. When I try to speed up the sweeping I automatically move to alternate picking....

I am not practicing too much right now, but as soon I finish my thesis I decided one thing. I will always practice my worst technique every day. That will be sweep picking as a start. And when I think it is not the worst anymore I move to something else...



When you start to really jump into the sweep picking Gus let us know what your individual problems may be so we can try to help you overcome them.

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QUOTE (Outlaw2112 @ May 5 2008, 08:53 PM) *
Playing in front of people... I can play stuff perfect by myself, but when im in front of people i tend to mess up and get nervous..



Outlaw,

Everyone deals with pressure in their own way. The only way to overcome this is continuing to do it. I would hope you still get nervous, its natural. I would be more afraid of not getting nervous because then maybe there is something wrong heh.

I still get nervous before a show and i been doing it for sometime, but i also so look forward being on that stage that the nervousness doesnt tie me down from my playing. I have difficulty playing in front of small amounts of people. I don't know maybe its the fear of intimacy or something. I am talking like 2 or 3 people.

On the otherside of it i have gotten the chance to play in front of 20,000 people and that doesnt bother me in the least. Butterflies is one thing, overwhelming anxiety..no.

Just keep working on playing in front of people eventually you will find your calm spot to shine and then it will be such an enjoyable experience. Remember these people who come to see you are there to have a good time...not to judge you as a person. Have fun with them. If you mess up a little don't even flinch about it just keep going and act like nothing is wrong.

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QUOTE (The Uncreator @ May 5 2008, 09:06 PM) *
8 finger tapping, I have never progressed so slowly at a technique



Your on your own with this one, at least from me. I have a tough enough time with 4 finger tapping let alone 8 heh. But there are instructors here who can help you seek them out and ask questions!

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QUOTE (fatb0t @ May 5 2008, 09:37 PM) *
SWEEPING
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For a while it was descending AP 3 note per string runs - Fixed it though! Took a solid weak of practicing the aeolian in every key descending, with some legato slides to expand all over the fret board - Now my descending is faster than my ascending - gotta work on that too I suppose!

I love the feeling of accomplishment when you start to become really comfortable with something that was so awkward to you in the beginning...



I have given some excersise ideas for legato technique in answering others check them out.

As for sweep picking what issue are you having with sweep picking in general. If you can give specifics its easier for someone to answer. Ask anything you want either myself or another instructor would be happy to help you reach your sweeping goals.

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QUOTE (Nemanja Filipovic @ May 6 2008, 08:53 AM) *
Great topic Daniel.My weakness is that I don't haw electric guitar.smile.gif



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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ May 6 2008, 09:57 AM) *
I'm just superb all across the board biggrin.gif

My weaknesses are theory, downpicking, alternate picking, sweeping, hybrid picking, economy picking and many other regions.

My strengths are my trademark slowlos biggrin.gif



Your definately at the right place to address all those issues smile.gif

If you have anything specific you need help with let any of us know and we will try to help you.

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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ May 6 2008, 10:29 AM) *
Probably note choice...million dollars question I would say.
Plus some techniques. biggrin.gif

Off to practicing wink.gif



My advice to you Muris is to sell your guitar on E-bay and take up Stamp collecting. Its obvious you don't want to learn anything here tongue.gif

QUOTE (ActiveX @ May 6 2008, 04:00 PM) *
Strumming; nice simple strumming on the acoustic...for the life of me I can't get motivated to practice this, even though I know how important it is. I always end up cranking up the distortion and just practicing the "fun" stuff...power chords, solo's, pinch harmonics, improv, tabs for songs, etc.



I understand your frustration with this kind of thing. But remember, those simple things are what makes up music. Sometimes i will compose an entire song based on some simple chord that i strummed and it takes on a life of its own and spins off into directions that i couldnt see coming.

Why not take a little time to play a few strummed chords and imagine what you can play on top of it. I think you might be pleasantly surprised of what you can come up with if you open up your imagination to this idea. Some of the most powerful songs we have have heard started with nothing more then 2 or three strummed chords and a guy humming a melody he didnt know what to do with.

This to me is the magic of music its so basic and yet so complex at the same time. The ultimate expression of paradox.

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QUOTE (Nobody @ May 6 2008, 04:14 PM) *
Well my main weakness is playing an other guitarist's solo in right timing. I can learn riffs and stuff and play them 1:1 when I want to but I just can't learn a solo and play it the way that other guitarist felt it. And this is a big problem because when we do some covers with my band I always make the solo different and it's not exactly in time this messes things up..

Other thing that's my weakness is Sweep Picking because the only way I can make each note sound perfectly is playing really slow but I do it every day so in the end I will be playing perfect Sweeps. It's a matter of time..

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Its seems your on the right track with sweep picking. And good attitude to have. If there is anything myself or any of the instructors can do to help with a specific issue let us know on the forums or P.M. and we will do what we can. We are here to help you reach your goals.

As far as playing other guitarists solo's nobody says you have to play them note for note. Me personally i also take creative license with cover tunes. And not because i can't play it the way it was written but because i feel the need to express myself in my own way.

What you do have to work on though is really working out how long the orginal solo is and making yours fit in the space allowed. If you are unable to do this work out with your band how to extend this section of the song so your all on the same page. Nothing worse then miscommunication while on stage it can make you look bad. Work out these issues with your band mates before the curtain comes up so to speak. I am sure they will probably accomodate you in this area if it makes all of you look more professional.

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Thanks alot for your answer Daniel, that was some really usefull advices, appreciate the effort smile.gif


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my weakness on the guitar is picking. some days are very very good. and every once in a while there are 1 - 3 days in a row, where it just wont succeed no matter how slow i do it and how much i warm up, it just doesnt stay tight. sad thing unsure.gif



What is it specifically your having trouble with in your picking Alex? Its also possible to that your overworking yourself this can contribute to "bad days" your muscles need time to recover from extended practice sessions. If you don't allow yourself to recover your muscles will have a tough time obeying you.

But if you can give some specific about what it is your having trouble with maybe we can help you better.

Saying your picking isnt tight for example...what isnt tight about it? Are you having difficulty sounding notes cleanly? or is your picking rhythm inconsistent? Its just too vague for me to offer any advice.


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post May 7 2008, 06:43 PM
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My weakness is definitely timing. When I play with the metronome I can play very accurate , but when Im playing with a backing track I lose the track with the first note. So I decided to stop practicing with the metronome , and now I am only practicing over backing tracks. I guess that my band can't be a metronome. I would say I cant play fast too but thats just practicing.

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My weakness is playing over metronom actualy i'm have problem to listen the beep and play over metronom..specialy now i'm learn Rock solo from trond..and what i'm do i'm not play over metronom but i'm just lets play Trond video and play with him.

somethime i'm allso have little problem with 3 finger power chord..specialy when i'm play some note and then i'm have to switch to 3 finfer power chord

and right now i'm feel somethime creepiness on my right finger...i'm aslo visiting the gym but i'm not sure if the problem is from gym or from playing quitar...hope thats nothing big{hope just the finger and muscle is just tired}


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This is a great thread, and at Rokchik's suggestion I thought we should make it sticky.

Also, thanks for the tips Daniel, I really like the idea of mixing Legato with AP - will give it a try!


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