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Jun 29 2008, 01:38 AM
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As the topic says i dont get what's the different between those two
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Jun 29 2008, 01:47 AM
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![]() Learning Roadie - Never Give Up - Moderator ![]() Group: GMC Senior Posts: 5.652 Joined: 25-November 07 From: Charlotte,NC USA Member No.: 3.374 |
The 3rd note of the scale. A minor 3rd is one note lower than a major 3rd. The minor has a more "sad feeling" to it. The major 3rd seems to brighten it up a bit.
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Jun 29 2008, 01:56 AM
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![]() GMC:er ![]() Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Norway Member No.: 5.080 |
But the boxes are just like the major or?
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Jun 29 2008, 02:18 AM
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![]() Learning Roadie - Never Give Up - Moderator ![]() Group: GMC Senior Posts: 5.652 Joined: 25-November 07 From: Charlotte,NC USA Member No.: 3.374 |
![]() ![]() notice the 3rd note...minor scale: C+2 semitones = D Major scale...3rd note B+3 semitones = D Take a look at Andrews Theory lessons Here Hope this helps a bit. I'm trying to get a grip on the theory stuff as well! -------------------- |
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Jun 29 2008, 11:11 AM
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Major pentatonic scale intervals: 22323
Minor pentatonic scale intervals: 32232 -------------------- ![]() |
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Jun 29 2008, 11:34 AM
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![]() GMC:er ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 1.710 Joined: 17-July 07 From: Norway Member No.: 2.337 |
As the topic says i dont get what's the different between those two they're both from the same scale, but are played in different positions. If you look closely you will see that the minor pattern fits the aeolian pattern and that the Major one fits Ionian. This post has been edited by kjutte: Jun 29 2008, 11:35 AM -------------------- Eatsleepjam:
Nice Lesson! You said something about how it can be overused, what do you exactly mean by that ? Any tips to not overuse it ? -John Andrew Cockburn: Yes ... play it less often. ________________________________________________________________________________ Guitars: Ibanez 2570Z, Ibanez RG470 (I think?), an Ephiphone Les Paul, a Dean Baby V, and some random acoustic guitar. Amps: Marshall TSL60, L6 Spider 2 15w, L6 Spider 2 75w Pedals: BBpreamp, Boss DD-6, Boss RC-2, EBS Unichorus, Dunlop Crybaby, a Line 6 Constrictor and a Korg Chromatic tuner Computer equipment: Creative Emu Tracker pro 2.0 ________________________________________________________________________________ Click Here if you are unsure about how scaleboxes are put together! ________________________________________________________________________________ Leave a comment on my youtube videos! |
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Jun 29 2008, 11:48 AM
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![]() Learning Apprentice Player - SI Lick of the Month Winner ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1.902 Joined: 14-June 08 From: Copenhagen, Denmark Member No.: 5.298 |
they're both from the same scale, but are played in different positions. If you look closely you will see that the minor pattern fits the aeolian pattern and that the Major one fits Ionian. It's most likely hearable as well. Minor being "sad"-ish, while major being the opposite - of course that's not really theory, but merely recognition of what emotion the scales bring - even pentatonics. |
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Jun 29 2008, 01:31 PM
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Look at the root notes, and compare like with like. A Major Pentatonic has very different notes form A minor pentatonic, they are really different scales - the root notes are the key to figuring this out Once you convince yourself of this, you'll wonder how you ever mistook them.
They do have overlapping patterns (because they are modes of each other) but that is misleading when you are first trying to figure out their differences. Comparing scales with the same root note is the key here. -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Jun 29 2008, 06:00 PM
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![]() GMC:er ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 1.710 Joined: 17-July 07 From: Norway Member No.: 2.337 |
It's most likely hearable as well. Minor being "sad"-ish, while major being the opposite - of course that's not really theory, but merely recognition of what emotion the scales bring - even pentatonics. It'll sound sad if you play it over a minor chord. minor penta pattern sounds happy if applied with relative major chords... This post has been edited by kjutte: Jun 29 2008, 06:06 PM -------------------- Eatsleepjam:
Nice Lesson! You said something about how it can be overused, what do you exactly mean by that ? Any tips to not overuse it ? -John Andrew Cockburn: Yes ... play it less often. ________________________________________________________________________________ Guitars: Ibanez 2570Z, Ibanez RG470 (I think?), an Ephiphone Les Paul, a Dean Baby V, and some random acoustic guitar. Amps: Marshall TSL60, L6 Spider 2 15w, L6 Spider 2 75w Pedals: BBpreamp, Boss DD-6, Boss RC-2, EBS Unichorus, Dunlop Crybaby, a Line 6 Constrictor and a Korg Chromatic tuner Computer equipment: Creative Emu Tracker pro 2.0 ________________________________________________________________________________ Click Here if you are unsure about how scaleboxes are put together! ________________________________________________________________________________ Leave a comment on my youtube videos! |
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Jun 29 2008, 06:09 PM
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![]() Get to da Chopper! ![]() Group: GMC Senior Posts: 2.693 Joined: 18-March 07 From: South Wales, UK Member No.: 1.374 |
It'll sound sad if you play it over a minor chord. minor penta pattern sounds happy if applied with major chords... Be careful here, you are mixing thirds : Major triad: 1 3 5 Minor pent: 1 b3 4 5 b7 Mixing thirds is really more of a bluesy thing, which maybe is your thing. This post has been edited by DeepRoots: Jun 29 2008, 06:09 PM |
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Jun 29 2008, 08:38 PM
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![]() GMC:er ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 1.710 Joined: 17-July 07 From: Norway Member No.: 2.337 |
Be careful here, you are mixing thirds : Major triad: 1 3 5 Minor pent: 1 b3 4 5 b7 Mixing thirds is really more of a bluesy thing, which maybe is your thing. Talking about relative minor and major. sorry for the mixup. Most 'newbs' usually don't realize that the pattern is a scale, so I try to explain that the modal characteristic comes with characteristic chords. Edit: you quoted wrong btw, I said relative maj chords This post has been edited by kjutte: Jun 29 2008, 08:40 PM -------------------- Eatsleepjam:
Nice Lesson! You said something about how it can be overused, what do you exactly mean by that ? Any tips to not overuse it ? -John Andrew Cockburn: Yes ... play it less often. ________________________________________________________________________________ Guitars: Ibanez 2570Z, Ibanez RG470 (I think?), an Ephiphone Les Paul, a Dean Baby V, and some random acoustic guitar. Amps: Marshall TSL60, L6 Spider 2 15w, L6 Spider 2 75w Pedals: BBpreamp, Boss DD-6, Boss RC-2, EBS Unichorus, Dunlop Crybaby, a Line 6 Constrictor and a Korg Chromatic tuner Computer equipment: Creative Emu Tracker pro 2.0 ________________________________________________________________________________ Click Here if you are unsure about how scaleboxes are put together! ________________________________________________________________________________ Leave a comment on my youtube videos! |
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