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post Jun 29 2008, 01:38 AM
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As the topic says i dont get what's the different between those two smile.gif


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The 3rd note of the scale. A minor 3rd is one note lower than a major 3rd. The minor has a more "sad feeling" to it. The major 3rd seems to brighten it up a bit.


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But the boxes are just like the major or?


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notice the 3rd note...minor scale: C+2 semitones = D
Major scale...3rd note B+3 semitones = D

Take a look at Andrews Theory lessons Here

Hope this helps a bit. I'm trying to get a grip on the theory stuff as well!


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post Jun 29 2008, 11:11 AM
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Major pentatonic scale intervals: 22323
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post Jun 29 2008, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE (MESHUGGAH @ Jun 29 2008, 02:38 AM) *
As the topic says i dont get what's the different between those two smile.gif


they're both from the same scale, but are played in different positions.

If you look closely you will see that the minor pattern fits the aeolian pattern and that the Major one fits Ionian.

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QUOTE (kjutte @ Jun 29 2008, 12:34 PM) *
they're both from the same scale, but are played in different positions.

If you look closely you will see that the minor pattern fits the aeolian pattern and that the Major one fits Ionian.


It's most likely hearable as well. Minor being "sad"-ish, while major being the opposite - of course that's not really theory, but merely recognition of what emotion the scales bring - even pentatonics.
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Look at the root notes, and compare like with like. A Major Pentatonic has very different notes form A minor pentatonic, they are really different scales - the root notes are the key to figuring this out Once you convince yourself of this, you'll wonder how you ever mistook them.

They do have overlapping patterns (because they are modes of each other) but that is misleading when you are first trying to figure out their differences. Comparing scales with the same root note is the key here.


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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Jun 29 2008, 12:48 PM) *
It's most likely hearable as well. Minor being "sad"-ish, while major being the opposite - of course that's not really theory, but merely recognition of what emotion the scales bring - even pentatonics.


It'll sound sad if you play it over a minor chord. minor penta pattern sounds happy if applied with relative major chords...

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QUOTE (kjutte @ Jun 29 2008, 06:00 PM) *
It'll sound sad if you play it over a minor chord. minor penta pattern sounds happy if applied with major chords...

Be careful here, you are mixing thirds :

Major triad: 1 3 5

Minor pent: 1 b3 4 5 b7

Mixing thirds is really more of a bluesy thing, which maybe is your thing.

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QUOTE (DeepRoots @ Jun 29 2008, 07:09 PM) *
Be careful here, you are mixing thirds :

Major triad: 1 3 5

Minor pent: 1 b3 4 5 b7

Mixing thirds is really more of a bluesy thing, which maybe is your thing.


Talking about relative minor and major. sorry for the mixup.

Most 'newbs' usually don't realize that the pattern is a scale, so I try to explain that the modal characteristic comes with characteristic chords.

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you quoted wrong btw, I said relative maj chords tongue.gif

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