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Aug 7 2008, 08:18 PM
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I have never been one to learn solos of others, but someone mentioned that it might help with my own phrasing. I have tried a bit in the past, but for one reason or another(maybe my concetration level or laziness) I gave up. So my question to the group is what were the first rock solos you learned that helped you in your own style that you feel are essential but easier level(Aloig the lines of Led Zeppelin(But not stairway to heaven), G&R, Chili Peppers,etc(80s to today). I see Kris' Freelicks.net has a few , so which ones would be good to start with.
Any tips too. Thanks, -------------------- "Three Chords & The Truth . . ."
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Aug 7 2008, 08:41 PM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 16.873 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia Member No.: 3.341 |
RHCP Californication album has some great solo phrases to analyze. Also Hendrix solos from Axis:Bold As Love are great as well
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Aug 7 2008, 09:14 PM
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![]() Bass Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 9.278 Joined: 30-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia Member No.: 3.410 |
Well RHCP - Californiacation song solo is must know and easy one
Also Scorpions - Wind of change is a great one.. Sultans of swing from Dire Straits too.. This post has been edited by Bogdan Radovic: Aug 7 2008, 09:14 PM -------------------- Check out my lessons and my instructor board !
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Aug 8 2008, 01:29 AM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 15.166 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Sarajevo,Bosnia Member No.: 2.159 |
Man Who Sold The World - Nirvana version
Soldier of Fortune - Deep Purple What's Going On - 4 Non Blondes -------------------- Youtube
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Aug 8 2008, 06:27 AM
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GMC:er ![]() Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 3-October 07 Member No.: 2.942 |
comfortably numb is not too tough and has some nice pentatonic licks
hotel california is a classic |
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Aug 8 2008, 06:29 AM
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I have never been one to learn solos of others, but someone mentioned that it might help with my own phrasing. I have tried a bit in the past, but for one reason or another(maybe my concetration level or laziness) I gave up. So my question to the group is what were the first rock solos you learned that helped you in your own style that you feel are essential but easier level(Aloig the lines of Led Zeppelin(But not stairway to heaven), G&R, Chili Peppers,etc(80s to today). I see Kris' Freelicks.net has a few , so which ones would be good to start with. Any tips too. Thanks, What helped me alot was just listening, and catching licks here and there that I like. It's very important to get the notes of the riff/lick so that you can in reality use it in your own playing. -------------------- Eatsleepjam:
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Aug 8 2008, 12:24 PM
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![]() GMC:er ![]() Group: Members Posts: 977 Joined: 10-April 08 From: Germany Member No.: 4.859 |
Metallica - Nothing Else Matters is quite easy and fun to play.
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Aug 8 2008, 12:28 PM
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![]() GMC:er ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1.224 Joined: 3-January 08 From: Denmark Member No.: 3.701 |
Man Who Sold The World - Nirvana version Soldier of Fortune - Deep Purple What's Going On - 4 Non Blondes Nice choices, i remember that from 4 non blondes -------------------- It dont mean a thing if it aint got that swing |
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Aug 8 2008, 01:35 PM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 2.886 Joined: 27-November 07 From: Sarajevo, Bosnia Member No.: 3.387 |
Living On A Prayer - Bon Jovi
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Aug 8 2008, 04:06 PM
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GMC:er ![]() Group: GMC Wiki:er Posts: 196 Joined: 1-August 07 From: Germanyż Member No.: 2.453 |
unforgiven - metallica
gnr november rain (first solo) gnr knocking on heavens door gnr sweet child o mine and: i dont know but, well, hmm, *grr* - well, stairway to heaven -------------------- If you think you understood what I said, you neglect that the things you hear, are different from the thing I thought of. - Got it?
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Aug 8 2008, 06:52 PM
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![]() GMC:er ![]() Group: Members Posts: 297 Joined: 30-October 06 From: Southern California Member No.: 901 |
Thanks for all of the song recomendations - I was actually planning on doing the John Frushiante(sp?) lessons so Californication from RHCP would fit nicely into it. Also - I know how Under the Bridge is considered the new "Stairway to Heaven" song to know for guitarists(Or at least that was what thet were saying in the 90s) so I might want to pick up a few licks from that.
I really would like to do Sweet Child O'mine from G N R, but I am a bit concrend it may be too advanced(or long) for my attention span. Really all I am trying to do is find some good short licks in solos that I can incorporate into my own playing. I am not sure what it is about me but I have a hard time doing the lessons that try to teach a specific solo note by note - I just get board with it easily before I master it(I guess because you end up hearing it"x" amount of times)- Does anyone else have this problem? Thanks, Michael Living On A Prayer - Bon Jovi Cool song - And then I can tell the wife I need one of those funky voice box effects. -------------------- "Three Chords & The Truth . . ."
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Aug 8 2008, 06:59 PM
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![]() Bass Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 9.278 Joined: 30-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia Member No.: 3.410 |
I am not sure what it is about me but I have a hard time doing the lessons that try to teach a specific solo note by note - I just get board with it easily before I master it(I guess because you end up hearing it"x" amount of times)- Does anyone else have this problem? Maybe once you learn the techniques used in that solo lesson and theory behind it (scales) you want to jam and improvise your own solo over the lessons backing track ? Most solo lessons are there to teach you phrasing, techniques , theory and its main goal is to enable you to improvise your own solos based on that knowledge .... -------------------- Check out my lessons and my instructor board !
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Aug 8 2008, 07:11 PM
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![]() GMC:er ![]() Group: Members Posts: 297 Joined: 30-October 06 From: Southern California Member No.: 901 |
Maybe once you learn the techniques used in that solo lesson and theory behind it (scales) you want to jam and improvise your own solo over the lessons backing track ? Most solo lessons are there to teach you phrasing, techniques , theory and its main goal is to enable you to improvise your own solos based on that knowledge .... That's kind of my problem - If I know the technique - I find myself going off and doing something different with the same backing track but trying to keep the same feel, and the more I play it, it then reverts back to my same old sound, which is what I am trying to get away from. Its a vicious cycle - -------------------- "Three Chords & The Truth . . ."
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Aug 8 2008, 07:23 PM
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![]() Bass Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 9.278 Joined: 30-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia Member No.: 3.410 |
That's kind of my problem - If I know the technique - I find myself going off and doing something different with the same backing track but trying to keep the same feel, and the more I play it, it then reverts back to my same old sound, which is what I am trying to get away from. Its a vicious cycle - I understand...But try to spend some time analyzing the solo lessons and phrasing to see why certain licks sound cool, and incorporate them into your own playing.Practicing improvisation takes a long time for you to be successful at it.Best way to go is to learn a lot of licks and analyze them(solo lessons) so you build up your improv vocabulary..Also try exploring, play fingerings that you don't feel comfortable with and you may end up with better and more original ideas. -------------------- Check out my lessons and my instructor board !
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