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Aug 11 2008, 09:16 PM
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Hi guys. Here's my problem....I have been playing guitar for about seven years now and have never been able to get a real answer to this question: I use three fingers to hold the pick (jazz III) thumb middle and index and what I want to know is.....is it possible to shred this way or should I switch to using the more traditional thumb + index technique?????? Is there anyone out there who has had this problem before????? Thanks.
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Aug 11 2008, 09:27 PM
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![]() Get to da Chopper! ![]() Group: GMC Senior Posts: 2.693 Joined: 18-March 07 From: South Wales, UK Member No.: 1.374 |
Welcome to the site
Good question, which i could answer as- why not?! If it works for you do it, i've seen all kinds of weird ways to hold picks, but each player claims it works for them. Id play with 3 fingers like you do when i started out. It worked for me then. Now i'm a little more mainstream and go for the thumb + side of index finger, because it just works perfectly for me. Give a few different pick positions a try, don't discard them striaght away- try to get familiar with it. After trying out a few different approaches i'm sure you'll have a favourite. If you're unhappy with how you hold your pick- change it - now, you don't wanna be fussing around with an uncomfortable pick stance when you get to some decent speeds. And another thing- speed asid- is tone. The angle you use your pick at will affect your tone slightly. I found that the pick helf with 3 fingers was almost parallel to the strings, and it definitely sounded "different" (can't say anymore than different as it was a while back) than to the tone my pick produces at the angle i now hold it. Experiment! |
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Aug 11 2008, 09:27 PM
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GMC:er ![]() Group: Members Posts: 96 Joined: 24-January 08 Member No.: 3.972 |
I was watching a video with Paul Gilbert and he said he used to speed pick with 3 fingers and it worked pretty well speed wise for him, but he switched because he felt it didnt give him the best tone. My advice would be what ever feels good to you, sounds best,and feels comfortable do it.
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Aug 11 2008, 10:12 PM
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![]() GMC:er ![]() Group: Members Posts: 693 Joined: 14-June 07 From: Sweden Member No.: 2.086 |
Check out Bruce Kulick, I believe he picks with thumb index and middle.
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Aug 11 2008, 10:13 PM
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![]() GMC:er ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 1.710 Joined: 17-July 07 From: Norway Member No.: 2.337 |
Hi guys. Here's my problem....I have been playing guitar for about seven years now and have never been able to get a real answer to this question: I use three fingers to hold the pick (jazz III) thumb middle and index and what I want to know is.....is it possible to shred this way or should I switch to using the more traditional thumb + index technique?????? Is there anyone out there who has had this problem before????? Thanks. everything is possible, but thumb+index is preferable. I sometimes shred with both of those ways, but I really prefer I+T. -------------------- Eatsleepjam:
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Aug 11 2008, 11:37 PM
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![]() GMC:er ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2.344 Joined: 23-February 07 From: New york Member No.: 1.243 |
Doenst matter. Steve Morse uses your way I believe. Cant argue with his technique ?
No one yells at Marty Friedman for his hand postion on the bridge ? Do what works for you You might find out that whats been working for 7 seven years, doesnt work for you after you try something else. So just experiment -------------------- Join Me On the Lyrics Board !
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Aug 12 2008, 12:03 AM
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![]() Learning Apprentice Player & Challenge Star ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1.435 Joined: 10-March 08 From: Albany NY USA Member No.: 4.521 |
I'm still a new player, but I would say if it works for you than keep doing it! I am sure somewhere in Jimi Hendrix's early days, someone told him he NEEDS to get a real left handed guitar instead of an upside down right hander. Good thing he never listened!
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Aug 12 2008, 12:17 AM
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![]() Learning Tone Seeker ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1.399 Joined: 21-January 08 From: Cincinnati, Ohio Member No.: 3.915 |
Eddie Van Halen picks like this. Then when he needs to do a two hand tap run he uses the index finger and hold the pick with the other 2 fingers.
If it feels comfortable too you then do it. -------------------- "Think of a guitar solo as a paragraph. You need a clear beginning, a middle, and an end. Look at musical phrases like sentences, and make sure you break them up using punctuation—or space. You pause naturally when conversing, right? If you don't, you'll bore the listener. The same thing will happen with your audience if your solo is one dimensional. You'll wear them out and lose their attention." —Tom Principato
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Aug 12 2008, 01:09 AM
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GMC:er ![]() Group: Members Posts: 188 Joined: 10-July 08 From: Napa, CA... U.S. Member No.: 5.466 |
I use to hold the pick the same way (as well as my guitar teacher). I thought I was supposed to hold it like a pencil, or pen. Then my teacher told me to try it w/ my thumb and curled up index finger. I noticed most of my motion started to come from my wrist and even fingers, instead of my whole arm.
It's really up to your preference. If Steve Morse can do it, so can you |
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Aug 12 2008, 01:13 AM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 16.878 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia Member No.: 3.341 |
I think there's no worries mate, if you feel comfortable that way - then carry on. IMO if all the people were holding the pick with index-thumb-middle they would eventually learned how to play one way or another.
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Aug 12 2008, 07:45 PM
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![]() Instructor (Blind Guardian) ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 2.651 Joined: 5-March 08 From: Germany Member No.: 4.464 |
As long as you are fine with your way of holding the pick I don't see a problem. There is no right or wrong way of holding picks, just check some of the videos here on GMC and you will see that for example David Walliman holds his pick completely different compared to I hold mine, but still his way works very well for him, while mine is fine for me.
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Aug 13 2008, 01:22 AM
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![]() GMC:er ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2.649 Joined: 2-June 07 From: Raleigh-Durham, NC Member No.: 1.984 |
Its true what everyone's saying about if it works for you. But I used to pick the same way you do, and I noticed that since switching to the side of my index and the thumb, I've had more control and more speed. So you might try it. I never pick the other way any more, it used to be more comfortable but I don't see a reason to now.
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Aug 13 2008, 02:17 AM
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![]() GMC:er ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1.397 Joined: 12-August 07 From: Pittsfield, Massachusetts Member No.: 2.523 |
Like everyone else has said, it shouldn't be a big deal, if it works for you then it works, but if you find a more comfortable way then use that way.
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