 Les Paul - Tuned To B - Need To Bend Still, What strings do you recommend? |
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 Oct 8 2008, 02:03 PM
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 GMC:er  Group: Passive Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA Member No.: 5.836  |
I have an Epiphone LP Standard that is tuned to B.
What strings do you recommend for metal playing? I'm not a really heavy picker. And I want the higher strings to still be bendable.... Any suggestions? Post links to the string sets if you can. -------------------- My Gear
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Oct 8 2008, 02:04 PM
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 Learning Tone Master  Group: MVC Posts: 3.185 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Germany Member No.: 2.164 |
11-54 set for a feeling like you're using 9s in standard tuning
...drop b or b standard tuning? This post has been edited by ZakkWylde: Oct 8 2008, 02:05 PM --------------------  Gear: - Jackson USA Select KV2 King V with EMG 81/85 - Gibson Les Paul Custom Arctic White with EMG 81/85 - Ibanez Rg 8527 J Custom 7-String with DiMarzio Evolution and Air Norton - Peavey 6505+ head with Marshall 1960AV 4x12 cab - Peavey Vypyr 30 Practice Amp - Dunlop Crybaby From Hell, Maxon OD808, Boss TU-2, MXR CarbonCopy, ISP Decimator, MXR Custom Audio Electronics Booster |
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Oct 8 2008, 03:15 PM
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GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 1.202 Joined: 25-November 07 Member No.: 3.373 |
13s and a new setup
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Oct 8 2008, 03:17 PM
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GMC:er Group: Passive Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA Member No.: 5.836 |
Standard B.
I really fear 13's will be too big. -------------------- My Gear
Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless "Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?" |
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Oct 8 2008, 06:46 PM
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Learning Tone Master Group: MVC Posts: 3.185 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Germany Member No.: 2.164 |
Then 12's and a new setup.
-------------------- Gear: - Jackson USA Select KV2 King V with EMG 81/85 - Gibson Les Paul Custom Arctic White with EMG 81/85 - Ibanez Rg 8527 J Custom 7-String with DiMarzio Evolution and Air Norton - Peavey 6505+ head with Marshall 1960AV 4x12 cab - Peavey Vypyr 30 Practice Amp - Dunlop Crybaby From Hell, Maxon OD808, Boss TU-2, MXR CarbonCopy, ISP Decimator, MXR Custom Audio Electronics Booster |
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Oct 8 2008, 06:58 PM
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11/54 set up on drop C they feel like 9's on standard tuning
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Oct 8 2008, 07:35 PM
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GMC:er Group: Passive Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA Member No.: 5.836 |
I grabbed some 12-60's at lunch today.
We'll see how they work. Fortunately with the fixed bridge there isnt as much setup stuff to do. Its been tuned down to B for a while. I'm sure I'll need to tweak the intonation. Hopefully that'll be it. -------------------- My Gear
Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless "Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?" |
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Oct 8 2008, 07:41 PM
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 Instructor  Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 15.459 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Sarajevo,Bosnia Member No.: 2.159 |
My goodness,I tuned my Musicman to drop D
and I thought it was pretty deep...but you guys!  Metal ON 
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Oct 8 2008, 07:51 PM
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GMC:er Group: Passive Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA Member No.: 5.836 |
Personally I'm not a fan of it being this low.
C is plenty low. I feel there is a big drop off in definition at B and below. But the band wants to try out some stuff at B....... Whatever..... 
-------------------- My Gear
Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless "Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?" |
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Oct 8 2008, 08:23 PM
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GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 4-August 08 From: blighty Member No.: 5.628 |
Those 12 to 60's should do the trick,and agree with you on drop c being as low as it should be with it sounding good!
My band plays in natural tuning and drop D and want to do some Killswitchy drop C stuff as well!all very well but it means I have to carry around a lot of guitars=I try my hardest to remember what guitar I am playing before we play,been lucky so far but there is going to be a day when I'm playing a song out of tune!lol -------------------- Ibanez geo and a line 6 spider
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Oct 8 2008, 08:37 PM
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GMC:er Group: Passive Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA Member No.: 5.836 |
Yeah, its a pain to have to haul that many guitars to practice.
one for some covers we do in E. One for C. One for B. Sheesh..... The good news is I have the guitars to be able to do that. I'd be complaining more if all I had was one guitar. I remember those days..... -------------------- My Gear
Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless "Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?" |
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Oct 8 2008, 09:01 PM
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 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia Member No.: 3.341 |
13 set can be good, they will not be hard at all, on B everything will be soft. They will only be thicker than 11 set, that's all.
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Oct 8 2008, 09:25 PM
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Perhaps get a 7 string? =]
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Oct 8 2008, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE (steve25 @ Oct 8 2008, 10:25 PM)  Perhaps get a 7 string? =] Was thinking the same 
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Oct 8 2008, 09:37 PM
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GMC:er Group: Passive Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA Member No.: 5.836 |
That would make sense.
And I did have one for a little while. Hated it. Never wanted to play it. Uncomfortable. Its just not for me. -------------------- My Gear
Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless "Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?" |
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Oct 8 2008, 09:39 PM
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 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 956 Joined: 21-June 08 From: Johannesburg, South Africa Member No.: 5.345 |
.11 - .56 would be ideal, light on your fingers and easier to control in Drop B tuning. If i remember correctly SIT strings are the only brand that do that, other brands are do .11-.54 which is okay but the Low B is hard to control and keep in tune as you play, also as the low B string gets older the intonation starts going out the window.
Also lighter strings tuned low just flop around the pick which leads to a messy sound when trying to play fast or tight metal rhythms and riffs. .12 gauge is also just fine to..we are talking millimeteres here anyway what's one millimetere between strings haha A new setup would also be a good idea don't set the action to low. Give the strings a little play for wide vibrato and fat Zakk wylde pinches:) -------------------- |
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Oct 8 2008, 09:42 PM
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GMC:er Group: Passive Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA Member No.: 5.836 |
I think thats one reason I havent liked 12's and low tunings as much.
I prefer lower action. Maybe if I raised it a bit I'd be happier. Does low action and dropped tunings just not mix? -------------------- My Gear
Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless "Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?" |
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Oct 8 2008, 09:52 PM
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Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 956 Joined: 21-June 08 From: Johannesburg, South Africa Member No.: 5.345 |
QUOTE (jer @ Oct 8 2008, 10:42 PM) I think thats one reason I havent liked 12's and low tunings as much. I prefer lower action. Maybe if I raised it a bit I'd be happier. Does low action and dropped tunings just not mix? In my opinion... Not a good Combo. My main reason is the fretbuzz that occurs...not a good sound:) I also use to prefer a lower action. It hasn't raised a heck of alot but what a difference in any tuning or string gauge. I find the tone is slightly better and easier to control along with the strings themselves. But it's what you are comfortable with at the end of the day. -------------------- |
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Oct 8 2008, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE (jer @ Oct 8 2008, 08:51 PM) Personally I'm not a fan of it being this low. C is plenty low. I feel there is a big drop off in definition at B and below. But the band wants to try out some stuff at B....... Whatever..... 24.75" scale lenght isn't optimal for tuning in B. -------------------- |
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Oct 8 2008, 10:38 PM
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Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 956 Joined: 21-June 08 From: Johannesburg, South Africa Member No.: 5.345 |
Many Apologies jer is see you are STANDARD B tuned not Drop B tuned.
You can still get away with a lowish action and a set of 13's i don't know what the low gauge of a normal set is. But D'addario make a 7 string set which is .10 .59 a 7 string is standard B tuning. So take out the .10 gauge and you'll have a .13 .59 set. You have to still watch out for fret buzz on the low B though. -------------------- |
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