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JimmyRare
post Feb 12 2009, 07:05 PM
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Hi,

here is my take on the Guthrie Govan riffing.

Jimmy tries some riffin'

It's a bit sloppy/out of sync at some parts which I have to work on.
However I did learn to record a video and put sound to it. biggrin.gif

If you have some advice for me I would gladly have some.

Thanks for your awesome lessons/playing Muris, they really inspire.

EDIT: New audio added, should be better now. smile.gif

/Jimmy

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post Feb 12 2009, 10:21 PM
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That was very nice take Jimmy!! smile.gif

Now, timing is small problem here,
not timing between notes tho, you're aware of that,
it's actually timing or tempo along with backing,
you're playing too fast compared with it,
not all the time but only at certain spots.

It's 4/4 time signature and I would suggest you
to tap each 4th with your foot, try it without playing
for couple of times, only with backing.
Try to get that syncopated groove as much as possible
and then add your playing to backing BUT try not to stop
tapping with your foot, you need to stay in tempo all the time.

Tapping or even "headbanging" is very essential
in order to keep the tempo and groove.
Tiny movements with your body or some parts of it
will help you a lot with your groove and timing,
it'll become more "tight".
Try it and let me know how it goes,
record another take if you can which would be awesome to see! smile.gif


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post Feb 12 2009, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Feb 12 2009, 10:21 PM) *
That was very nice take Jimmy!! smile.gif

Now, timing is small problem here,
not timing between notes tho, you're aware of that,
it's actually timing or tempo along with backing,
you're playing too fast compared with it,
not all the time but only at certain spots.

It's 4/4 time signature and I would suggest you
to tap each 4th with your foot, try it without playing
for couple of times, only with backing.
Try to get that syncopated groove as much as possible
and then add your playing to backing BUT try not to stop
tapping with your foot, you need to stay in tempo all the time.

Tapping or even "headbanging" is very essential
in order to keep the tempo and groove.
Tiny movements with your body or some parts of it
will help you a lot with your groove and timing,
it'll become more "tight".
Try it and let me know how it goes,
record another take if you can which would be awesome to see! smile.gif



Thank you very much for your great input!

You really nailed it. I was feeling like I sometimes got ahead of the backing track somehow and just "waited" for it to come back to me. It didn't occure to me what I was doing wrong. I was actually losing the beat as you said which resulted in me not being very tight at times.
From now on I'll make sure to keep the beat with the help of tapping my foot. smile.gif

Hopefully I can back to you with an update tomorrow. Later.



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post Feb 12 2009, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE (JimmyRare @ Feb 12 2009, 11:15 PM) *
Thank you very much for your great input!

You really nailed it. I was feeling like I sometimes got ahead of the backing track somehow and just "waited" for it to come back to me. It didn't occure to me what I was doing wrong. I was actually losing the beat as you said which resulted in me not being very tight at times.
From now on I'll make sure to keep the beat with the help of tapping my foot. smile.gif

Hopefully I can back to you with an update tomorrow. Later.


Sounds great!

One more thing, what I do all pretty often is
setting backing track MUCH louder
comparing to sound of my guitar,
I do that even in studios when recording rhythm parts etc.

Try to match mix of backing and guitar to fits you the best. smile.gif

P.S. once you record it you should set it to normal mix,
unless you're recording audio via cam mic.

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Hi Muris, I haven't nailed it as tight as I want to yet. In the meantime could you tell me how to import the .fxp-file into guitar rig?


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Feb 12 2009, 05:32 PM) *
Sounds great!

One more thing, what I do all pretty often is
setting backing track MUCH louder
comparing to sound of my guitar,
I do that even in studios when recording rhythm parts etc.

Try to match mix of backing and guitar to fits you the best. smile.gif

P.S. once you record it you should set it to normal mix,
unless you're recording audio via cam mic.


Good trick about setting backing louder than guitar! :-)


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you are Great!! The interpretation is incredible! you play very well! An excellent work! wink.gif


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QUOTE (VictorUK @ Feb 16 2009, 01:55 PM) *
Nice take, im hoping to do some covers when i get some new pre-amp tubes for my amp biggrin.gif



QUOTE (Carlos Carrillo @ Feb 16 2009, 02:12 PM) *
you are Great!! The interpretation is incredible! you play very well! An excellent work! wink.gif


Wow, thank you guys, you are too kind. biggrin.gif


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post Feb 16 2009, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE (JimmyRare @ Feb 16 2009, 01:00 PM) *
Hi Muris, I haven't nailed it as tight as I want to yet. In the meantime could you tell me how to import the .fxp-file into guitar rig?


Yeah, I just realized there is no option to import single preset into GR,
works only for banks, huge miss. huh.gif

But here is solution,
be sure to close any DAWs like Cubase, Reaper etc AND Guitar Rig before you start.
Right click on preset you downloaded and go for
"open with" option or you can double click it and use "chose program from the list",
take GR in both cases but also check "always use this program.." before you click ok
so GR would open this kind of files by default later on.
Then you simply rename it in GR (it'll have no name once it's imported)
and save it in bank you want, that's all. smile.gif


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post Feb 16 2009, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Feb 16 2009, 05:22 PM) *
Yeah, I just realized there is no option to import single preset into GR,
works only for banks, huge miss. huh.gif

But here is solution,
be sure to close any DAWs like Cubase, Reaper etc AND Guitar Rig before you start.
Right click on preset you downloaded and go for
"open with" option or you can double click it and use "chose program from the list",
take GR in both cases but also check "always use this program.." before you click ok
so GR would open this kind of files by default later on.
Then you simply rename it in GR (it'll have no name once it's imported)
and save it in bank you want, that's all. smile.gif


Thanks for your answer, however I still have problems.

When I open the file in GR it simply opens GR with the latest sound used. I can't find anything indicating your preset is in there.



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post Feb 16 2009, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE (JimmyRare @ Feb 16 2009, 06:47 PM) *
Thanks for your answer, however I still have problems.

When I open the file in GR it simply opens GR with the latest sound used. I can't find anything indicating your preset is in there.


Hmm, that's really odd, will try to find solution, google must say something wink.gif


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post Feb 16 2009, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Feb 16 2009, 09:43 PM) *
Hmm, that's really odd, will try to find solution, google must say something wink.gif


Ha! Believe when I say I've tried google. Who knows, maybe I am bad at googling.. tongue.gif


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QUOTE (JimmyRare @ Feb 16 2009, 10:03 PM) *
Ha! Believe when I say I've tried google. Who knows, maybe I am bad at googling.. tongue.gif


No, I'm afraid you're not bad at googling,it works ONLY with banks
so I'll export it for you first thing when I switch to other windows I use, working one. smile.gif


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Here is a GR bank for you guys,
it contains only one preset tho.

Cheers. smile.gif

http://www.box.net/shared/gumm24hysj


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Feb 19 2009, 05:59 PM) *
Here is a GR bank for you guys,
it contains only one preset tho.

Cheers. smile.gif

http://www.box.net/shared/gumm24hysj


Thanks alot! Here is the clip with new audio. Should sound a bit tighter now hopefully.



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QUOTE (JimmyRare @ Feb 20 2009, 06:50 PM) *
Thanks alot! Here is the clip with new audio. Should sound a bit tighter now hopefully.



Oh yeah, much better this time, nice progress!
There is still some room for improvement
regarding timing and overall execution, keep me posted. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Feb 20 2009, 06:57 PM) *
Oh yeah, much better this time, nice progress!
There is still some room for improvement
regarding timing and overall execution, keep me posted. smile.gif


Hehe, thanks man. Ye, far away from your take for sure!
But hey, once you learn a lick like this it should be easier with another one, right? I don't wanna be practicing this hard for everything I play. I mean you nail these kind a fast I suppose?


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QUOTE (JimmyRare @ Feb 20 2009, 08:18 PM) *
Hehe, thanks man. Ye, far away from your take for sure!
But hey, once you learn a lick like this it should be easier with another one, right? I don't wanna be practicing this hard for everything I play. I mean you nail these kind a fast I suppose?


Depends of lick, sometimes faster but sometimes slower. smile.gif


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