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  Feb 28 2009, 04:58 PM
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Probly a stupid question but.. Whats best to learn first? notes or chords?
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Feb 28 2009, 05:01 PM
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Not stupid but tricky,
I guess both come along nicely. 
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Feb 28 2009, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Feb 28 2009, 04:01 PM)  Not stupid but tricky, I guess both come along nicely. Exactly -------------------- Check out my <a href="http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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Feb 28 2009, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Feb 28 2009, 04:01 PM) Not stupid but tricky, I guess both come along nicely. Glad to know! -------------------- |
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Feb 28 2009, 06:25 PM
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I'm brought up with the electric organ where left hand plays chords and the right plays melody so both was needed there. On the guitar though I think you will come a long way only knowing chords. Then, knowing the chords and which notes are included it will be more easy to learn the notes afterwards.
This is just how I've experienced thing, but I have a different background knowing the organ first and I just felt notes on the guitar wasn't as important that chords. -------------------- My bands homepage
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Feb 28 2009, 08:07 PM
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Both, but mostly, the usual guita player learns chords much quicker than notes...Atleast that's what I think
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Feb 28 2009, 08:12 PM
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I currently know chords and I am going to work on notes now
 the chords do help because you basically get a freebie on most chords (unless they are inversions) in the bass note
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Feb 28 2009, 10:30 PM
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Well, without the notes you don't have chords but every starter on the instrument learn first the chords with open strings....so I think the chords is something you learn first but would be great to be accompained by the notes and the chord theory
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Mar 1 2009, 12:46 AM
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I think that's logical, notes:)
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Mar 1 2009, 12:49 AM
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I'd start with a couple of basic chords because:
If you only can play a couple of chords you can play some good beatles tunes, kiss songs, Nirvana songs etc. If you only can play a couple of notes you can play.. .. twinkle twinkle little star? -------------------- Olle "AJ" Svensson
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Mar 1 2009, 01:38 AM
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It's a bit generalized question, but I would answer notes first. Then you can learn to build chords, and it will be easier to build them when you know the notes.
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Mar 2 2009, 12:00 AM
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first you must learn notes, and later you can learn intervals, and after when you learn notes and intervals you can learn chords.
p.s. sorry , my english is very bad. This post has been edited by Branimir Habek: Mar 2 2009, 12:01 AM |
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Mar 2 2009, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Mar 1 2009, 12:38 AM) It's a bit generalized question, but I would answer notes first. Then you can learn to build chords, and it will be easier to build them when you know the notes. QUOTE (Branimir Habek @ Mar 1 2009, 11:00 PM) first you must learn notes, and later you can learn intervals, and after when you learn notes and intervals you can learn chords. p.s. sorry , my english is very bad. Wouldn't this be easier if you learnt the notes by using chords other than simply looking at a fretboard diagram labelling the notes like this > http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...-1192068497.jpg -------------------- |
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Mar 2 2009, 01:02 AM
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When I started playing I learned some chords first so I was able to play some songs. Later I learned notes and figured out how the chords are made and what all that together means. Some people learn the other way but I think learning both at the same time is what I would recomend.
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Mar 2 2009, 01:21 AM
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Depends whats your goal as guitar player or musician overall ?
Want to sing songs and play for girls ? Chords are your obvious answer. Want to learn more about music, theory harmony, play solos and be creative - notes are way to go ! I suggest combining the two as later during your development you will definitely switch your routine more towards one then other ! -------------------- |
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Mar 2 2009, 01:25 AM
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I think starting with notes is a good, but not very practical idea.
It's great to know the notes, and to know all the intervals and notes etc, in the chords you are playing. It's something everyone should learn. But for a beginner, I think it gets really discouraging to do that from scratch, learning chords makes you learn some notes and makes you able to just play and have fun. Then try to learn the notes as soon as you can, but starting with notes will probably make most people discouraged if they can't play chords untill they've gotten all the chord theory etc down. -------------------- |
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Mar 2 2009, 01:36 AM
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Just wondering if its a good way to learn notes using the chromatic scale? since i have this programme called advanced fretpro wich quizes you and you can choose wich frets and string etc.. so chromatically as in learning 1 string all the way up to the 12th fret is a good idea?
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Mar 2 2009, 01:44 AM
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QUOTE (VictorUK @ Mar 1 2009, 08:36 PM) Just wondering if its a good way to learn notes using the chromatic scale? since i have this programme called advanced fretpro wich quizes you and you can choose wich frets and string etc.. so chromatically as in learning 1 string all the way up to the 12th fret is a good idea? I have that program as well but I do fine in the quizes but when it comes to the real fretboard not so much 
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Mar 2 2009, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE (VictorUK @ Mar 2 2009, 01:36 AM) Just wondering if its a good way to learn notes using the chromatic scale? since i have this programme called advanced fretpro wich quizes you and you can choose wich frets and string etc.. so chromatically as in learning 1 string all the way up to the 12th fret is a good idea? I think the best way to learn the notes is the historical way. First the 7 notes of the C major scale and then the complement of the 5 altered notes. Also that's the way you can see the notes in a keyboard instrument like the piano, all the white notes are the C major scale (C D E F G A B ) and then you have the black keys C# D# F# G# A# or the enharmonic names Db Eb Gb Ab Bb This post has been edited by Ramiro Delforte: Mar 2 2009, 01:54 AM -------------------- |
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Mar 2 2009, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE (Ramiro Delforte @ Mar 2 2009, 12:52 AM) I think the best way to learn the notes is the historical way. First the 7 notes of the C major scale and then the complement of the 5 altered notes. Also that's the way you can see the notes in a keyboard instrument like the piano, all the white notes are the C major scale (C D E F G A B ) and then you have the black keys C# D# F# G# A# or the enharmonic names Db Eb Gb Ab Bb Can you lead me to a source that goes a bit more in-depth about this method? it quite confusing ATM. -------------------- |
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