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Tolek
post May 29 2009, 12:03 PM
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Hey there,
today I made a new video of Canon Rock. Itīs much better than the previous version, but there are still some issues.
Iīm gonna play this at a show where 600 people will be. Is my performance ok? biggrin.gif



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post May 29 2009, 12:06 PM
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You've worked on vibrato!!!
Still a bit to go, but this is a huge improvement man!

However, there are quite a bit of timing issues, and the sweeps are very sloppy.
The part where you play with one hand you got way too much noise, I'd use a muter here.
Also I think your tone is a bit cold but it may be a matter of taste!

Have fun at the show man, best of luck!

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post May 29 2009, 12:15 PM
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Nice video Tolek !
I like the feel of the whole video, but there are parts you can work on (intro and faster sweeps). Excellent vibrato !


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post May 29 2009, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE (kjutte @ May 29 2009, 01:06 PM) *
You've worked on vibrato!!!
Still a bit to go, but this is a huge improvement man!

However, there are quite a bit of timing issues, and the sweeps are very sloppy.
The part where you play with one hand you got way too much noise, I'd use a muter here.
Also I think your tone is a bit cold but it may be a matter of taste!

Have fun at the show man, best of luck!

Thanks, man! smile.gif Iīve worked a lot on my vibrato and I can do different kinds of it now. Really good tool.
Yeah, Iīve always got timing problems. Itīs in my blood. laugh.gif
That one hand part wasnīt really clean here... Needs more muting. Maybe I should put my right hand on the lower strings?

QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ May 29 2009, 01:15 PM) *
Nice video Tolek !
I like the feel of the whole video, but there are parts you can work on (intro and faster sweeps). Excellent vibrato !

Thanks a lot, Pedja. smile.gif


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post May 29 2009, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE (Tolek @ May 29 2009, 01:16 PM) *
That one hand part wasnīt really clean here... Needs more muting. Maybe I should put my right hand on the lower strings?


Sure, on lower frets. Sounds like a plan!


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post May 29 2009, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE (Tolek @ May 29 2009, 01:16 PM) *
Thanks a lot, Pedja. smile.gif


You welcome Tolek !
Overall you need to work on it but I am sure in couple of days you can have this perfected smile.gif


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post May 29 2009, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ May 29 2009, 07:55 AM) *
You welcome Tolek !
Overall you need to work on it but I am sure in couple of days you can have this perfected smile.gif


I totally agree with the feedback given so far, and would like to add that your showman instincts are right on, just need to practice the timing and cleanliness.

Also totally agree with the right-hand as a mute on the lower frets; it won't lose any of the "wow, one hand!" effect at all.

I look forward to seeing video from the live show!


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post May 29 2009, 04:04 PM
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Great Tolek! I'm kinda willing to learn this myself, but it's quite some minutes to learn wink.gif Great one! It has quite some little mistakes, but I don't think your audience will hear this, unless they are all guitar players!


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post May 29 2009, 11:10 PM
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Good, but your timing is bad at few places(difficult parts), you need to fix that!


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post May 30 2009, 12:07 AM
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Great job Tolek! That's a big song and you've got a good chunk of it down! You know where it may be off just a bit and still needs some work. At the 3:20- ish mark, listen to where you play with one hand. I would focus on the tone and hit those notes... it is easily within your skill there, so there is no need to miss that section (the one hand section). You've done a great job. The crowed will love ya! you are on the road to Rock Fame, and Fortune... cool.gif
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post May 30 2009, 12:24 AM
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Thanks for the feedback. smile.gif


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post May 30 2009, 10:50 AM
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Great played biggrin.gif

As for feedback, I feel everything has been said smile.gif
You might want to relax a bit more while playing sweeps.. I got the impression that you were extremely tense and kinda pushed your hand hard downwards instead of sweeping tongue.gif
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I think that will go down a storm mate! Pretty awesome trak to learn that mate, take a bow!


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I think that was awesome Tolek, as Kaz pointed out only guitarists in the audience would find room for improvement, but it's an overall great take. Inspiring. I wish I can play that one some day smile.gif


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post May 30 2009, 12:04 PM
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Well your succes depends on who the audience is - if it is 600 schoolmates who listen to D'n'B and Hip Hop, they will love this - they dont know whats timing issue, sloopy sweep etc.. They just hear you play it in a VERY good way.

If you are playing to 600 musicians tho, you will have to work hard to fix those few messups (not much of them). Problem with these are, they take ages to get rid of:D

Thats the difference between normal and professional audience. Common guys came to hear good tunes and want to enjoy the music - they can enjoy only as much as you do:) Pros want to hear perfection, they are looking for comparison, new ideas etc..

To conclude it- those are just a small nuances in overally greatly played performance. Its not about being technical genuis. Its about soul which you can put into it and that matters wink.gif

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post May 30 2009, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE (Jakub Luptovec @ May 30 2009, 01:04 PM) *
Well your succes depends on who the audience is - if it is 600 schoolmates who listen to D'n'B and Hip Hop, they will love this - they dont know whats timing issue, sloopy sweep etc.. They just hear you play it in a VERY good way.

If you are playing to 600 musicians tho, you will have to work hard to fix those few messups (not much of them). Problem with these are, they take ages to get rid of:D

Thats the difference between normal and professional audience. Common guys came to hear good tunes and want to enjoy the music - they can enjoy only as much as you do:) Pros want to hear perfection, they are looking for comparison, new ideas etc..

To conclude it- those are just a small nuances in overally greatly played performance. Its not about being technical genuis. Its about soul which you can put into it and that matters wink.gif


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Well said Jakub, I would just add one more thing to all this.
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Thanks guys, now I know that donīt have to worry about it too much. However, Iīll work on it. smile.gif

QUOTE (Jakub Luptovec @ May 30 2009, 01:04 PM) *
Well your succes depends on who the audience is - if it is 600 schoolmates who listen to D'n'B and Hip Hop, they will love this - they dont know whats timing issue, sloopy sweep etc.. They just hear you play it in a VERY good way.

If you are playing to 600 musicians tho, you will have to work hard to fix those few messups (not much of them). Problem with these are, they take ages to get rid of:D

Thats the difference between normal and professional audience. Common guys came to hear good tunes and want to enjoy the music - they can enjoy only as much as you do:) Pros want to hear perfection, they are looking for comparison, new ideas etc..

To conclude it- those are just a small nuances in overally greatly played performance. Its not about being technical genuis. Its about soul which you can put into it and that matters wink.gif

Youīre completely right, Jakub. The audience will be composed of average people (guys who like music and like my playing already biggrin.gif), but the judging panel is different. One music teacher, a magician and a dancer, I think. Anyway, Iīm only playing for fun. And to gain some fans. laugh.gif

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I agree with what Jakub said it was a good performance and by the time you have to perform you will definately work out all the kinks . nicely done man

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QUOTE (bluetag @ May 31 2009, 03:33 AM) *
I agree with what Jakub said it was a good performance and by the time you have to perform you will definately work out all the kinks . nicely done man

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Very good job with the Canon rock Tolek! smile.gif Vibrato has indeed improved, sounds much more stable now! smile.gif Keep rockin mate, I'm sure the audience will love this! smile.gif


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