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Chokehold
post Jul 21 2009, 10:02 PM
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I have never before thought about the way I pick, and thought that what I did was alternative.
And a few days ago I sat down and looked at what I did. Of course it was Economy picking.

But I don't see why you would want to play Alternative picking, as Economy let's you move faster between the strings.

So is there a reason to why you would want to play Alternative, and what is good about it?

And same question about Economy Picking.

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just wanted to add that i had the exact same problem and i think the biggest advantages of alterante are predictabilty and even tone on every stroke. really 90% of the time alternate is the way to go, thogh i gotta say sometimes when i have to do and outside change on a very fast lick i do cheat and do like a 2 string sweep if it helps some of the following to be easier or inside strokes


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You might wanna try THIS lesson in as well,
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"unforseen" situations. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Jul 22 2009, 02:29 AM) *
You might wanna try THIS lesson in as well,
it should prepare you nicely for many kinds of
"unforseen" situations. smile.gif


Started on it now. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Chokehold @ Jul 22 2009, 04:23 PM) *
Started on it now. smile.gif


Good! smile.gif

QUOTE (lcsdds @ Jul 22 2009, 06:56 PM) *
I personally think economy comes in most handy when using it in conjunction with legato.......


Depends of a player Monte, take Frank Gambale per example,
he's using economy without any hammer-ons or pull-offs most often.
Some other guys use it combined with legato, true. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Jul 22 2009, 06:08 PM) *
Depends of a player Monte, take Frank Gambale per example,
he's using economy without any hammer-ons or pull-offs most often.
Some other guys use it combined with legato, true. smile.gif

So true Muris. One thing I remember you saying when I was debating about sticking with economy or working on alternate picking was you said that with economy it was "show me the lick".....you have to "design' your licks to work with economy. With alternate I think if you break down the mechanics and get those different pick strokes that occur when changing strings down that alternate is a much better technique. I definitely didn't think this until you really started helping me with my AP. Thanks for that Muris.......\m/\m/

QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Jul 22 2009, 06:14 PM) *
I don't know what level you are but I am pretty sure that no person can economy pick this in 160bpm, 16th triplets


|-3-| |-3-| |--3-| |--3-| |--3--| |--3--|
S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S
E||--------5-7-8--------7-8-10---------8-10-12-||
B||--5-6-8-------7-8-10--------8-10-12---------||
G||--------------------------------------------||
D||--------------------------------------------||
A||--------------------------------------------||
E||--------------------------------------------||


Even is someone is able to do it I think that's ridiculous to waste time practicing like that when AP is much easier and sounds better in these situations

Spot on Emir.......I wasted A LOT of time trying to get everything to work with economy. Now I do everything AP. I only use economy now when I am doing legato.
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- Chokehold   Alternative Vs Economy   Jul 21 2009, 10:02 PM
- - Muris Varajic   Long time question. So, the thing is, alternate ...   Jul 21 2009, 10:10 PM
|- - Chokehold   QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Jul 21 2009, 11:10...   Jul 21 2009, 10:23 PM
- - Emir Hot   I am personaly a fan of alternate picking but some...   Jul 21 2009, 10:19 PM
|- - Chokehold   QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Jul 21 2009, 11:19 PM) ...   Jul 21 2009, 10:25 PM
- - Fingerspasm   I usually refrain from answering technical questio...   Jul 21 2009, 10:24 PM
|- - Chokehold   QUOTE (Fingerspasm @ Jul 21 2009, 11:24 P...   Jul 21 2009, 11:58 PM
- - Eat-Sleep-andJam   Same thing happened to me man. Do your 1-2-3-4 ...   Jul 21 2009, 10:32 PM
|- - lcsdds   QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Jul 22 2009, 01:29...   Jul 22 2009, 03:49 AM
|- - lcsdds   QUOTE (Chokehold @ Jul 22 2009, 03:23 PM)...   Jul 22 2009, 05:56 PM
- - Pedja Simovic   Emir and Muris are right! Both techniques hav...   Jul 22 2009, 11:53 AM
- - Zeyth   http://tomhess.net/Articles/AlternateVsDir...nalPi...   Jul 22 2009, 03:10 PM
|- - Emir Hot   QUOTE (Zeyth @ Jul 22 2009, 03:10 PM) As ...   Jul 22 2009, 06:14 PM
|- - Muris Varajic   QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Jul 22 2009, 07:14 PM) ...   Jul 22 2009, 07:32 PM
|- - Emir Hot   QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Jul 22 2009, 07:32...   Jul 22 2009, 07:42 PM
|- - Muris Varajic   QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Jul 22 2009, 08:42 PM) ...   Jul 22 2009, 09:53 PM
- - Chokehold   Just a quick question, how long will it take until...   Jul 22 2009, 07:43 PM
|- - Emir Hot   QUOTE (Chokehold @ Jul 22 2009, 07:43 PM)...   Jul 22 2009, 07:49 PM
- - Zeyth   http://tomhess.net/Articles/AlternateVsDir...nalPi...   Jul 22 2009, 08:00 PM
|- - lcsdds   QUOTE (Zeyth @ Jul 22 2009, 08:00 PM) htt...   Jul 22 2009, 08:18 PM
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|- - Emir Hot   QUOTE (Zeyth @ Jul 22 2009, 08:00 PM) Any...   Jul 22 2009, 09:21 PM
|- - Zeyth   QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Jul 22 2009, 09:21 PM) ...   Jul 22 2009, 09:34 PM
|- - Emir Hot   QUOTE (Zeyth @ Jul 22 2009, 09:34 PM) He ...   Jul 22 2009, 09:58 PM
|- - lcsdds   QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Jul 22 2009, 09:58 PM) ...   Jul 22 2009, 10:02 PM
|- - Emir Hot   QUOTE (lcsdds @ Jul 22 2009, 10:02 PM) Di...   Jul 22 2009, 10:04 PM
- - lcsdds   Not trying to be a jerk Zeyth.....but I don't ...   Jul 22 2009, 09:02 PM
|- - Zeyth   QUOTE (lcsdds @ Jul 22 2009, 09:02 PM) No...   Jul 22 2009, 09:08 PM
|- - lcsdds   QUOTE (Zeyth @ Jul 22 2009, 09:08 PM) Ah,...   Jul 22 2009, 09:14 PM
|- - Zeyth   QUOTE (lcsdds @ Jul 22 2009, 09:14 PM) Bu...   Jul 22 2009, 09:22 PM
|- - lcsdds   QUOTE (Zeyth @ Jul 22 2009, 09:22 PM) Add...   Jul 22 2009, 09:32 PM
|- - Muris Varajic   QUOTE (Zeyth @ Jul 22 2009, 10:22 PM) Add...   Jul 22 2009, 09:57 PM
- - Vasilije Vukmirovic   When you play economy, you always compromise sound...   Jul 23 2009, 07:12 PM
|- - lcsdds   QUOTE (Vasilije Vukmirovic @ Jul 23 2009, 07...   Jul 23 2009, 08:11 PM
- - Jose Mena   QUOTE (lcsdds @ Jul 23 2009, 03:11 PM) Wh...   Jul 23 2009, 08:24 PM
|- - Muris Varajic   QUOTE (Jose Mena @ Jul 23 2009, 09:24 PM)...   Jul 23 2009, 10:39 PM
- - Ivan Zecic   Instead of discussing advantages and disadvantages...   Jul 23 2009, 10:39 PM
- - Jenbu   well I use alternate picking but, when im playing ...   Jul 24 2009, 10:10 PM
|- - Muris Varajic   QUOTE (Jenbu @ Jul 24 2009, 11:10 PM) wel...   Jul 25 2009, 02:49 AM
|- - lcsdds   QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Jul 25 2009, 02:49...   Jul 25 2009, 05:00 AM
|- - Muris Varajic   I use it....when I use it.   Jul 25 2009, 07:35 AM
- - Vasilije Vukmirovic   yeah, neoclassical metal uses tons of arpeggios so...   Jul 24 2009, 10:34 PM
- - Sami   I'm sorry to be totally off topic, but i read ...   Jul 24 2009, 11:02 PM
|- - Emir Hot   QUOTE (Sami @ Jul 24 2009, 11:02 PM) I...   Jul 25 2009, 10:44 PM
- - Oxac   @ Zeyth. You need to be critical of your sources. ...   Jul 25 2009, 08:34 AM
- - Caelumamittendum   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7-zD2IQYTw - A ver...   Jul 26 2009, 12:04 PM
|- - Emir Hot   QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Jul 26 2009, 12...   Jul 26 2009, 12:07 PM
|- - Caelumamittendum   QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Jul 26 2009, 01:07 PM) ...   Jul 26 2009, 12:12 PM
- - Oxac   I think the guy missed that 2 downstrokes in a row...   Jul 26 2009, 01:04 PM


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