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Chord Frustration |
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Sep 26 2009, 04:28 PM |
Hmm, do you know how chords are made out of a scale, and what is the chord progression within a key?
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Sep 27 2009, 12:15 AM |
Many popular hit songs have very limited chord progression. Unique chord progression itself is not something you want to hold as the only value of the song. For example, it is a lot more important to have a good catchy vocal line in the song, and good lyrics then to produce a complex chord changes. If you have a strong vocal line you can put anything behind it, complex simphony or just two chords, doesn't matter. The listener will be focused on the vocal line most of the time. It's important to find a good riff, and good vocal line, everything else should follow that. This is not always the case, but in most cases it is the fact.
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Sep 28 2009, 05:59 PM |
i know that a lot of stuff has to be recycled progressions but i want to be able to write progressions that are more melodic and suit modes well. I dont know if any of you have ever heard of jeff buckley or elliott smith but thats the kind of style im looking for. What would you guys recommend for a practice agenda for getting my chordal knowledge up to an advanced stage? Also what about key changes? I know how to change keys if im changing to the harmonic minor but how do you know what keys are available to change into based on the key you are in? Sorry about all the questions. I have a lot to ask because i've never had the money to go to a teacher unfortunately. Would it help if i posted a link to an example of what im talking about? May I suggest then reading my theory and harmony post on my instructor board? You will find information there about modal harmony (cadences for modes in major scale) as well as other useful information. Check out my MTP board and things I am covering with Cael... We are talking about reharmonizing techniques and key changes - exact things you want to learn about. Regarding chord knowledge, I just finished my part 3 lesson for Triads in major scale series. First 2 parts are already published and are on the site already. Here is a thread about it HERE These lessons use string sets 654, 543,432 and 321 for all possible triads in C major scale! In part 1 root inversion is covered while in part 2 you have 1st inversion covered. When part 3 goes live you will have final 2nd inversion for triads. 4 string sets = 4 different ways how to play one chord inversion 3 possible inversions x 4 different ways = 12 possible ways how to play a single chord in C major scale! Since C major scale has 7 chords ( C maj D min E min F maj G maj A min and B dim) you basically learned a lot of ways how to expand your chord vocabulary for triads. Remember this material for C major can apply to any other major scale as well! Let me know if you have any questions. My instructor board is bellow in my signature! Edit : typo This post has been edited by Pedja Simovic: Sep 28 2009, 06:02 PM |
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Sep 28 2009, 06:24 PM
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Thanks for your help guys. I'll be sure to check out all your recommendations once my computer is working a little bit better. Here's those examples i was talking about. This has less to do with my question about using chords that complement modes but more so using interesting inverted chords.
I found two videos that emphasize two of my favorite artists style really well on youtube so dont mind the video part but could you guys tell me what theoretically makes these progressions sound different than usual too me?(besides lack of ear training haha) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0YrIPvWC0A - Elliott Smith's Seen how things are hard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WolmjxD4hn4 - Jeff buckley's So real I know Jeff buckley seems a bit simpler and not similar in style to the first link but theres something about his changes that gives him such a unique sound(at least to me) -------------------- www.myspace.com/nickhugo
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Sep 28 2009, 07:26 PM |
I look forward to see what you come up with. In the meantime, always plenty to keep me busy ... Great to hear that, glad you are keeping yourself busy in the meanwhile |
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