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post Dec 9 2009, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE (Lester @ Dec 9 2009, 10:59 PM) *
Hi Jerry,

I was wondering: the Bm7/5- is basicly a Bdim with an added 7th (major 3rd on top or leading tone) which makes it half diminished, right?
What will happen when we add a minor 7th or a subtonic to a diminished chord? another notation?


I'm not sure I understand your question. Talking about C as root, do you mean to put a Bb (minor 7th) over a Cdim7 (written also C°,C°7,Cdim) to have C-Eb-Gb-Bbb + Bb ??
This chord is a bit dissonant. Anyway you can call it Cm7add13/5- if you think Bbb enharmonically as A.
Before we take a look at some advanced concepts it would be cool to see a video of you smile.gif
Also, when I will be able to listen to your playing we'll discuss about your REC take.

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post Dec 10 2009, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE (Jerry Arcidiacono @ Dec 9 2009, 11:25 PM) *
I'm not sure I understand your question. Talking about C as root, do you mean to put a Bb (minor 7th) over a Cdim7 (written also C°,C°7,Cdim) to have C-Eb-Gb-Bbb + Bb ??
This chord is a bit dissonant. Anyway you can call it Cm7add13/5- if you think Bbb enharmonically as A.
Before we take a look at some advanced concepts it would be cool to see a video of you smile.gif
Also, when I will be able to listen to your playing we'll discuss about your REC take.



This is what I meant with my question:

In the progression we have a Bm7/5-.
it consists of the root, minor 3rd, diminished 5th and a minor 7th.
the relative intervals are: root, minor 3rd, minor 3rd, major 3rd.
what happens when the last interval is a minor 3rd? (I formulated it wrong, I asked about a minor 7th, but making that interval minor makes it a 6th rather, i guess...)
And now that I think of it: why do we call the chord above a Bm7/5- and not just a Bdim7? Is Bdim7 a good notation as well?

About the recording:
I got my logitech quickcam today, I won't be able to record tommorow yet (lack of time) but friday you will hear me playing. I will record the lesson as well as a demo of my general playing. I'm at school all afternoon on friday, but I'll get to it when I get home, you use cubase as well, right? do you know how to sync my sound with the cam?
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QUOTE (Lester @ Dec 10 2009, 12:10 AM) *
This is what I meant with my question:

In the progression we have a Bm7/5-.
it consists of the root, minor 3rd, diminished 5th and a minor 7th.
the relative intervals are: root, minor 3rd, minor 3rd, major 3rd.
what happens when the last interval is a minor 3rd? (I formulated it wrong, I asked about a minor 7th, but making that interval minor makes it a 6th rather, i guess...)
And now that I think of it: why do we call the chord above a Bm7/5- and not just a Bdim7? Is Bdim7 a good notation as well?

About the recording:
I got my logitech quickcam today, I won't be able to record tommorow yet (lack of time) but friday you will hear me playing. I will record the lesson as well as a demo of my general playing. I'm at school all afternoon on friday, but I'll get to it when I get home, you use cubase as well, right? do you know how to sync my sound with the cam?


Stacking minor thirds you get a diminished 7th chord. As I wrote in my previous post there are many notations to write this.
C - Eb - Gb - Bbb are the notes of Cdim7, written also C°, C°7, Cdim. There is some confusion around, about the "dim" notation. Some books use "dim" for triads while some others are referring to the diminished 7th chord.
Usually you have some legend somewhere in the book which make things clear.
You find the diminished 7h chord as example over the 7th degree of the harmonic minor scale.
To keep things simple take a look at A harmonic minor which is A - B - C - D - E - F - G# - A.
Over the 7th degree you get G# - B - D - F which is G#°7.
Each note can be another root if you spell the names in the right way. Starting from B you get B - D - F - Ab, which is B°7.

I record the audio with Cubase and then I sync it with the video using Vegas or Movie Maker. If you take a look on the forum I'm sure you'll find many different solutions to do this. Members write their gear on each REC take. Looking forward to hear from you.


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QUOTE (Jerry Arcidiacono @ Dec 10 2009, 07:10 AM) *
Stacking minor thirds you get a diminished 7th chord. As I wrote in my previous post there are many notations to write this.
C - Eb - Gb - Bbb are the notes of Cdim7, written also C°, C°7, Cdim. There is some confusion around, about the "dim" notation. Some books use "dim" for triads while some others are referring to the diminished 7th chord.
Usually you have some legend somewhere in the book which make things clear.
You find the diminished 7h chord as example over the 7th degree of the harmonic minor scale.
To keep things simple take a look at A harmonic minor which is A - B - C - D - E - F - G# - A.
Over the 7th degree you get G# - B - D - F which is G#°7.
Each note can be another root if you spell the names in the right way. Starting from B you get B - D - F - Ab, which is B°7.

I record the audio with Cubase and then I sync it with the video using Vegas or Movie Maker. If you take a look on the forum I'm sure you'll find many different solutions to do this. Members write their gear on each REC take. Looking forward to hear from you.



Allright, thank you for the explanation. I think I get it now.
I discovered a Dutch jazz band yesterday, I like them a lot: room eleven.
ever heard of them?

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QUOTE (Lester @ Dec 10 2009, 11:25 AM) *
Allright, thank you for the explanation. I think I get it now.
I discovered a Dutch jazz band yesterday, I like them a lot: room eleven.
ever heard of them?


Never heard about them, sorry. I will search some info about their music.


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Hi Jerry,

I tried to record something for the last hours, but when I played it the image was gone and the sound was bad and I can't upload it right now for some reason.
I have to leave home now, I won't be able to do another take this evening, so it will be tommorow, I'm sorry about that, I still need to figure all this gear out.

Sorry again!
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QUOTE (Lester @ Dec 11 2009, 07:29 PM) *
Hi Jerry,

I tried to record something for the last hours, but when I played it the image was gone and the sound was bad and I can't upload it right now for some reason.
I have to leave home now, I won't be able to do another take this evening, so it will be tommorow, I'm sorry about that, I still need to figure all this gear out.

Sorry again!
Lester


Ok, I'm waiting for your take.


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Hi Jerry,

Here's my first take on the jazz notes lesson, I still haven't got the camera working.
For some inexplainable reason the image is left out of the final mix.
I hope to have it fixed soon.

I do have recorded an audio take, to not further delay things.
I still have some difficulties with a few chords, especially the minor chords on the highest four string and the chords around the 15th fret are a little harder than the rest.
Here is my take:

Attached File  jazz_notes_1_Lester.wma ( 1.58MB ) Number of downloads: 92


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QUOTE (Lester @ Dec 12 2009, 08:48 PM) *
Hi Jerry,

Here's my first take on the jazz notes lesson, I still haven't got the camera working.
For some inexplainable reason the image is left out of the final mix.
I hope to have it fixed soon.

I do have recorded an audio take, to not further delay things.
I still have some difficulties with a few chords, especially the minor chords on the highest four string and the chords around the 15th fret are a little harder than the rest.
Here is my take:

Attached File  jazz_notes_1_Lester.wma ( 1.58MB ) Number of downloads: 92


Cheers!


Very nice take Lester smile.gif
Remember that those chords over the higher frets are useful to understand how the progression goes through the neck.
Usually you don't need to use them while comping other instruments but you can use them to play some arpeggio during your solos, of course.
About your next assignment I suggest my Jazz Notes 3: Modes Workout lesson.
So you can learn modes of the major scale and meanwhile you'll play all the scales with alternate picking technique. I haven't heard you playing single notes, yet. In this way I can check better your current level of playing.
If you agree about the lesson, the deadline for the 2nd assignment is december 18 - we need to recover some time!
Talking about the REC, you can take a look at my Jazz Notes 5: II-V-I Progression: Licks lesson. The II-V-I progression is a very important topic in Jazz music.
Let me know what you think about it and maybe you can also suggest some other lesson if you think you can master it in time.


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QUOTE (Jerry Arcidiacono @ Dec 13 2009, 08:23 AM) *
Very nice take Lester smile.gif
Remember that those chords over the higher frets are useful to understand how the progression goes through the neck.
Usually you don't need to use them while comping other instruments but you can use them to play some arpeggio during your solos, of course.
About your next assignment I suggest my Jazz Notes 3: Modes Workout lesson.
So you can learn modes of the major scale and meanwhile you'll play all the scales with alternate picking technique. I haven't heard you playing single notes, yet. In this way I can check better your current level of playing.
If you agree about the lesson, the deadline for the 2nd assignment is december 18 - we need to recover some time!
Talking about the REC, you can take a look at my Jazz Notes 5: II-V-I Progression: Licks lesson. The II-V-I progression is a very important topic in Jazz music.
Let me know what you think about it and maybe you can also suggest some other lesson if you think you can master it in time.


Hi Jerry!

The lessons are fine with me, I don't know a thing about modes yet, so that will be a lot of theorie again! smile.gif
I hope I can make the deadline, I had a bicycle accident last monday and it's hard for me to play with a pick right now, because my hands are wounded smile.gif But I think I'll be fine, I' just start with the theory.

When Is the REC supposed to be done? at the end of the month I thought, right?
I was thinking, maybe we could summarize things at the end of each month, so after each REC take, we take the topics we did in the weeks before and make an extra assignment for each topic. for example the ones mentioned at the end of vid 1 in your jazz notes 1 lesson.

I think that would help me freshen things up, otherwise we'll just move on and on, nothing wrong with that, but I feel this way the handled topics will stick better. and it will help me in my componing skills.

Let me know what you think.
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QUOTE (Lester @ Dec 13 2009, 09:02 PM) *
Hi Jerry!

The lessons are fine with me, I don't know a thing about modes yet, so that will be a lot of theorie again! smile.gif
I hope I can make the deadline, I had a bicycle accident last monday and it's hard for me to play with a pick right now, because my hands are wounded smile.gif But I think I'll be fine, I' just start with the theory.

When Is the REC supposed to be done? at the end of the month I thought, right?
I was thinking, maybe we could summarize things at the end of each month, so after each REC take, we take the topics we did in the weeks before and make an extra assignment for each topic. for example the ones mentioned at the end of vid 1 in your jazz notes 1 lesson.

I think that would help me freshen things up, otherwise we'll just move on and on, nothing wrong with that, but I feel this way the handled topics will stick better. and it will help me in my componing skills.

Let me know what you think.


Hi Lester, wish you a quick recovery!
Yes, the REC should be done at the end of the month.
About the extra assignments, you can find some exercises at the end of video #1 of many JN lessons.
If there aren't exercises in a particular lesson we are covering, I can suggest some specific exercise, of course. Since we're a bit late right now, it's very important to focus on playing and recording, in my opinion.
At the end of the month I will write a post which summarize your progress. This is already a feature of the MTP program, don't worry.


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QUOTE (Jerry Arcidiacono @ Dec 14 2009, 09:03 AM) *
Hi Lester, wish you a quick recovery!
Yes, the REC should be done at the end of the month.
About the extra assignments, you can find some exercises at the end of video #1 of many JN lessons.
If there aren't exercises in a particular lesson we are covering, I can suggest some specific exercise, of course. Since we're a bit late right now, it's very important to focus on playing and recording, in my opinion.
At the end of the month I will write a post which summarize your progress. This is already a feature of the MTP program, don't worry.


Allright! we'll do it that way then!
If I find some time time I will do the extra assignments, in that case I'll just post them here.
so....I'll get studying now smile.gif
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Hi Jerry!

Can I have the backingtrack for jazz notes 3?
I would like to record take now.

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Here's the backing track. Happy recording smile.gif

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Hi Jerry!

Here's my take on jazz notes lesson 3, including image this time biggrin.gif hope you like it!

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QUOTE (Lester @ Dec 18 2009, 03:59 PM) *
Hi Jerry!

Here's my take on jazz notes lesson 3, including image this time biggrin.gif hope you like it!



Sounds like a good take smile.gif
How about JN 4 as your next assignment? In this way you'll start to play some chords with a swingy feel.
If you agree I will upload the backing for this lesson plus the backing for the REC.


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QUOTE (Jerry Arcidiacono @ Dec 18 2009, 11:08 PM) *
Sounds like a good take smile.gif
How about JN 4 as your next assignment? In this way you'll start to play some chords with a swingy feel.
If you agree I will upload the backing for this lesson plus the backing for the REC.


I agree. I'll get working on those then. Ican you also suggest lessons about modes? I'd like to learn more about them. I'd like to know them inside out,all the boxes, so I can improvise with them. I'll get working on those then as some side project, and post those whenever ready.

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QUOTE (Lester @ Dec 19 2009, 12:15 AM) *
I agree. I'll get working on those then. Ican you also suggest lessons about modes? I'd like to learn more about them. I'd like to know them inside out,all the boxes, so I can improvise with them. I'll get working on those then as some side project, and post those whenever ready.


The point is that... you already know all the boxes. I chosed to explain modes in this way with my lesson, so you can connect all the boxes you have learned - after thinking a little smile.gif . Please be patient because it's not the time to start to improvise. I know you want to experiment the concepts you already know but we need to finish the assignments and the REC in time.
Meanwhile you can learn some other lesson about modes, nothing wrong with it, of course. I know my lessons best and I can't suggest some specific lesson from other instructors.
If the next month everything will be fine, you can expect many assignments about improvisation biggrin.gif

The deadline for the 3rd assignment is december 24.

Here are the backings smile.gif

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Attached File  Jazz_Notes_4___backing.mp3 ( 657.55K ) Number of downloads: 110


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We (humans) are all the same while we're learning something new. We want to learn many things as soon as possilble, playing 143546 notes per second, etc...
Take your time, trust me biggrin.gif


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