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Dennizzz119
post Apr 12 2010, 03:46 PM
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Heya Fella's

Is it Possible to Put THIS:



In THIS:



So yeah were talking about A 498T In the bridge position,

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post Apr 12 2010, 03:57 PM
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Not sure why you would want one of those; I never found any Gibson pickups impressive...

Anyways it IS possible but the guitar has a wider string spacing so the polepieces won't line up correctly and the mouning legs are too long. You would have to shorten them by cutting them of and weld the m back on closer to the pickup.

It requires a bit of work but generally it's possible


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post Apr 12 2010, 04:01 PM
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I Dont Like the Sound When Playing rythem
What else would fit perfectly and give that Les pauls rythem tone?


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post Apr 12 2010, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE (Dennizzz119 @ Apr 12 2010, 05:01 PM) *
I Dont Like the Sound When Playing rythem
What else would fit perfectly and give that Les pauls rythem tone?


to point out the obvious, A Les Paul would have given that tone wink.gif
A guitar`s basic characteristic tone comes from the wood and building quality, pickups just changes that original tone into the desired one.
Someone correct me if I sound way out, but that is the impression I have smile.gif


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post Apr 12 2010, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (mhskeide @ Apr 12 2010, 03:05 PM) *
to point out the obvious, A Les Paul would have given that tone wink.gif
A guitar`s basic characteristic tone comes from the wood and building quality, pickups just changes that original tone into the desired one.
Someone correct me if I sound way out, but that is the impression I have smile.gif


You're right but still i dont like the pickups, I want a little more Rythem sound Or in the Neck pos or in The Bridge Pos

What would you guys throw in (Exept of keeping the original pickup in?
I want that AC/DC , Guns N Roses, Van Halen , Led Zeppelin Kinda tone without buying an Les paul, I Hate that thick necks

And is it true that .10s improve rythem sounds?

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post Apr 12 2010, 05:00 PM
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Thicker strings alway improve the sound, wether bending, soloing, sustain or rythm!
And your guitar will NEVER EVER sound like a Les Paul because both guitars are just too diffrent. Thin bolt on shredder neck on a basswood body with a Floyd against hughe mahagony body with maple top and a thick neck and a fixed bridge - tonally the exaxt opposites...

A diffrent humbucker can modify the sound of your guitar slightly but it won't make it another guitar. Try the Seymour Duncan Alnico 2 Pro humbuckers (the ones Slash uses). They should cover your styles far better than Steve Vais Highgain Evolutions.

Oh and get over it! Thick necks aren't making you play any slower than thin necks and it's all a matter of getting used too. A thick guitar neck gives a much better tone!


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post Apr 12 2010, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Apr 12 2010, 04:00 PM) *
A diffrent humbucker can modify the sound of your guitar slightly but it won't make it another guitar. Try the Seymour Duncan Alnico 2 Pro humbuckers (the ones Slash uses). They should cover your styles far better than Steve Vais Highgain Evolutions.

Oh and get over it! Thick necks aren't making you play any slower than thin necks and it's all a matter of getting used too. A thick guitar neck gives a much better tone!


They would Fit in Perfectly? Im Not the handy kinda boy
My dad is but i wouldnt take the risk.


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post Apr 12 2010, 06:00 PM
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You have to get a F-Spaced version of the humbucker you want and then they will fit! They are called Trembuckers at Seymour Duncan.


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post Apr 12 2010, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Apr 12 2010, 05:00 PM) *
You have to get a F-Spaced version of the humbucker you want and then they will fit! They are called Trembuckers at Seymour Duncan.


And those are the same as the AlnicoII Pro's ?


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post Apr 12 2010, 07:37 PM
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http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/elec...aph1_alnico_ii/

You can see here on the left is the regular Alnico II pro humbucker APH-1 and on the right is the Trembucker verison of the same humbucker TBAPH1. You will have to get the Trembucker version for your guitar (it doesn't sound diffrent, it's just a diffrent size to fit under a floyd rose guitar)


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post Apr 12 2010, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Apr 12 2010, 06:37 PM) *
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/elec...aph1_alnico_ii/

You can see here on the left is the regular Alnico II pro humbucker APH-1 and on the right is the Trembucker verison of the same humbucker TBAPH1. You will have to get the Trembucker version for your guitar (it doesn't sound diffrent, it's just a diffrent size to fit under a floyd rose guitar)


Lovely, and is there a gold plated cover or anything available for these trembuckers?


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post Apr 12 2010, 09:01 PM
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Not from Seymour Duncan directly but I am sure you can get some on the aftermarked and put the cover on!


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post Apr 12 2010, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Apr 12 2010, 08:01 PM) *
Not from Seymour Duncan directly but I am sure you can get some on the aftermarked and put the cover on!


Hmm do i have to change potties or so ?

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post Apr 12 2010, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE (Dennizzz119 @ Apr 12 2010, 10:10 PM) *
Hmm do i have to change potties or so ?


No, just simply unsolder the old humbucker and replace them with the new ones. Be careful though, DiMarzio and SD have diffrent wiring colors so be sure to check the wiring instructions or let a tech do it.


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QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Apr 12 2010, 08:13 PM) *
No, just simply unsolder the old humbucker and replace them with the new ones. Be careful though, DiMarzio and SD have diffrent wiring colors so be sure to check the wiring instructions or let a tech do it.


Well, My dad's the tech tongue.gif
So that will go smoothly,

Thanks man!


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This is a very interesting question with some very spiff replies. Essentially, you'd like a fatter tone with a bit less gain. Changing the pickups will change the tone to be sure, but the guitar itself is a major factor in the sound. If you like the thinner necks, but dig the les paul tone, you may look in to trying some of the newer les paul shaped guitars from Schector, ESP, Minarik, and others. These have the body tonality similar to the less paul, but have more modern neck designs like the Ibanez.

Also, you could try to adjust the tone via amp modeling, or stomp boxes, etc. Believe it or not, the bridge pickup is used by many if not most players for rythm parts. The neck pickup is used frequently to get a more bassy, thick, bluesy sound when doing a solo. Even though the neck pickup is called the "rythm pickup", it's often not used as one.

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