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post Nov 16 2010, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE (maharzan @ Nov 16 2010, 08:48 AM) *
I love your spirit man. Go for it. At last the only thing that makes any difference you can make with the crowd out there is doing just what you love to best. If you try to balance and make everyone happy you will just end up like an average joe whom nobody remembers. I have learnt that lesson from my life and while I worked my ass off after college 24/7 as a designer, now I work less hours to do things I love to do and you probably have seen my progress too within the last year or so. I mean I have improved my technics quite a bit which I thought I could never achieve in my life but one year is definitely very very short time to learn all the theory and become 'very good' at it but I am sure if you have already done it for 3 years, things might come easy and the more you practice the more you will understand.

Do remember that 'frustration' and 'demotivation' kind of comes every now and then and you just have to get past the fears of these things. You will become good. I am sure starting your work at 27 isn't too late. I just restarted at 30 after 6 years of intense work. smile.gif

Also note that you will have to constantly practice and work on your guitar skills. THIS IS A MUST. If you think you cannot dedicate much time and you have more excuses for this period, don't go for it. You will have to forget everything and just do guitars for a year. smile.gif

And the other alternative is to join a guitar university or something for 2 years. I am sure you will learn all the theory in there plus you will get to know more professional people. smile.gif


Thanks man !
It's funny that I was about to mention you in my initial post as a good example of progress. You and emirb whom I also watch on the REC takes.

Yes I also thought of an guitar university and I would like that but I cannot afford it. Unfortunately, here in Romania there is only one "rock school" but it is nothing compared to the ones in the vest which I don't afford and nobody offers scholarships for a 26 years old beginner guitarist smile.gif

As I said in the initial post, I plan to start only from around March next year. Until then I cannot dedicate enough time and I am tired of doing things only half way.

QUOTE (Gus @ Nov 16 2010, 01:29 AM) *
I admire your courage. Pursuing your dream is much easier if you have a safety net (like the spare money you want to get). So, at least, you are approaching it on the right way.
I may be overlooking something, but it seems your whole problem is stress. So, I´d guess you only need to slow down your rhythm.
What about working part time? If you work 4 hours a day + play guitar 4 more hours you still have a lot of time to rest and assimilate all you need.
Saving money for 1 year and then stopping for 1 year, should be equal in terms of money to work 2 years part time. And I guess you would be better at guitar if you do part time (4 hours for 2 years) than stress routine now + 8 hours next year , because a lot of things in guitar takes a loooong time to assimilate.
On top of that, you keep acquiring experience on programming, which will help you in case you decide to come back to it full time.



Thanks man, I know what you mean with the part time job and you are right but I tried that also. Not 4 hours a day but 5-6 for a period of time. I was the best deal I could get with the company I am working for. I think I can get also a deal for 4 hours a day but still, I feel it won't be enough time (as I said I don't plan do to technique 8 hours a day in a row, but half of the time to do focus on song writing, tone and recording stuff, practicing with the band etc). And I am also tired of doing things half way. So at least for the first 6 month I want to concentrate full time on this if you know what I mean.

Thanks again and thank you all for you opinions, advices and concern. It really means a lot. The risk of not getting a job back in case things go wrong it is not that big as probably the topic title makes it look because it is programming, and things are very flexible here. Anyway, it is risk I am willing to take. I have lots of quotes about this aspect but I guess you all know what I mean smile.gif


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post Nov 17 2010, 01:26 AM
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If you can afford it financially and would say go for it!
Its your dream and why not invest 1 year trying to achieve it. In things like this you only need determination and strong will in order to achieve your goals. Why not take a change now? Maybe you won't have it in the future.

But I'm saying this ONLY if you can afford not having a job for a period of time.


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post Nov 17 2010, 03:03 AM
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post Nov 17 2010, 08:27 AM
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post Nov 21 2010, 04:06 PM
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I would say that you should check with a cold approach what are the possible revenues you may have as a guitarist, some may be: teaching, playing live, selling music

Now inside those 3 there's room for so many things to do. But the idea is to have that clear RIGHT NOW before jumping into quitting everything,



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post Nov 23 2010, 05:10 AM
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On the contrary, Daniel, that is a classic way of thinking which isn't bad at all and may be valid for 99% of the people. I would think if you are so good at anything, you can create opportunities for yourself, the paths opens up itself. I saw somewhere when Satriani was out there roaming with his instrumental rock album, nobody was really into it. But then he changed the way people took music. Its just not words. This is what is important. But if you don't have the confidence then you can go with the crowd, see the scope and then follow the path which is probably the safest path. I am not advocating this is true or this works for all. For example, I never went into guitars at first place (well I thought I could never progress or play like I can now back then). But from my life, I have a really good example which I can share although there are a lot of success stories out there on how people sacrificed and starved for years before they reached the success level!

There was a computer boom back in late 90s when I was about to join college. I wanted to study architecture (as I liked art/design) but then I failed the exam because of other subjects like chemistry/physics which I still don't understand why they are needed. Then next year, I joined computer science instead thinking working on computers and programming was growing. Thankfully after much study, I passed that year.. LoL.

As soon as I joined college, I hated it and didn't know why I joined at first place. We still had to study chemistry, physics and all those irrelevant subjects instead of just computers. We only had 1 computer subject in 2 years.. F*%#!

So, after like 2-3 months in college, I virtually gave up studies and went to library to study some web designing. We hardly had internet back then but still whenever possible I went and downloaded photoshop tutorials and saved in a floppy disk to take home and study. This was totally out of what coursework was. As a result I failed 4 times in 8 of the final exams. My focus was elsewhere and I didn't know what I will be doing since I won't have a degree and I won't be able to work on a prestigious institution for sure. But designing was what I liked. I still remember a teacher asking me why I was there when I wasn't being able to answer the 'course questions'. I remember saying - ' because my dad sent me.' It was an awkward situation. Everyone laughed of course.

Anyway, luckily I graduated. But before I graduated, I did start working on few projects here and there. A senior friend of mine was looking to work on design projects and as soon as he knew about my skills, he started a design company and I started working with him. I didn't care about what I would do or where I would be in next 5 years. I just kept working and working 24/7/365 days because that was what I enjoyed. It was fun. Of course, I starved. In fact, I moved from a 2 month high paying intern job to a low paying more enjoyable job. haha! I was crazy. But even at this level, I did save little by little for 6 months to buy my first guitar (Music was always what I did when I had some free time). Anyway, then started blooming the 'outsourcing' thing. It was a blessing but hard as well since trust was really hard to build. We won many projects only because of our work rather than 'low price' that usually dominates the outsourcing world. I worked full time / overtime (usually stayed in office 90% of 24/7/365) for 6 years. Of course we had plans and we imagined to really become a huge company. We started 2 and we reached upto 40 people at one time.

Finally, since I loved to work rather than become the boss to manage senseless people (again the thing I don't like) I had to depart from the company to seek peace rather than trying to fix everyones problems. But the best thing was I gathered so much experience all these years that I can now work less and earn more. I have known what works on the market and what doesn't. I can really create my own opportunities! I have learnt what college courses or any degree could never offer.

So, in summary, despite knowing what will work or what the market was into, I just wanted to work on what I liked the most and what made learning mysterious and fun. Staying in lectures were really boring and many time sleepy! I don't claim to have been successful yet but I am pretty happy with where I am right now rather than where I could have been if I followed the path others took, take degrees, go abroad and work like a horse and trying to save my job because of some depression. I now stay at home not worrying about office time and still manage to earn so I can focus on my next most liked hobby, i.e music! smile.gif I am actually encouraged with my own experience to now focus on learning guitar and was the primary reason I wanted to improve my playing since last 1.5 years. biggrin.gif

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post Nov 23 2010, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Nov 21 2010, 03:06 PM) *
I would say that you should check with a cold approach what are the possible revenues you may have as a guitarist, some may be: teaching, playing live, selling music

Now inside those 3 there's room for so many things to do. But the idea is to have that clear RIGHT NOW before jumping into quitting everything,


Well I know I is not going to be selling music smile.gif

I plan on a combination of the other 2. I have lots of examples that do the same.
Also like transcribing music but I guess I will keep that just as a personal hobby. I think this is from the programmer side of me that really likes how music looks on paper. Was really enthusiastic when I saw in that interview that Steve Vai said the same words tongue.gif. But lets get back to reality.

For now, I just know that this is the right way and it has to lead somewhere decent. Or at least it is going to answer me a lots of questions. There were a few times when I thought of quitting the whole guitar stuff and just go the safe road but, to be honest, the most important thing that is holding be back is the fact that I haven't even come to a point where I can see at least half o the big picture in the music business. Not because I cannot read about it on the internet or ask lots of people but because of my current skill level. First you have to be able to really play the guitar before you can worry about the other aspects. If I don't do it then I will not even have time to see why the whole guitar/music stuff could not work. What I am most afraid of is the fact that I started playing guitar a quite late. At least I will know that and I can make peace with myself.

My story is somehow similar to what maharzan said in the last post (I hear you man smile.gif ) just that I am in the programming business not design. I like that also but it is nothing compared to music and I cannot imagine myself working in front of a computer from 8hrs a day for the rest of my life. As I wrote on a previous post, in this business things are quite flexible. What I mean is that in the worst case scenario if I cannot get my old job back I can start doing projects taken from the internet. The whole outsourcing stuff. Of course I will starve for a while because the prices are pretty low but I will get back on track at some point.

I can't believe I am saying this, but fortunately I don't live in the vest and here you are not so screwed if you are jobless for a while (from rent, health insurance, social security point of view and all that but I don't want to get in detail here).

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post Nov 24 2010, 09:04 PM
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you dont have to be that good, if you can play perfectly your favorite songs than you can perform with them that means your good enough, in adition there are ways like gabriel where you can work in guitar and guitar related areas. many people get caught up in mastering crazy solos, which is fun and self improving but its a very niche crowd whos even that interested. try to look back when you didnt play guitar if the solos were even interesting, better yet, let a non guitarist friend hear a 2 minute solo, he will die of boredem usually.
oh and try to ask a random friend from facebook who are the following- steve vai, paul gilbert, yngwi, michael angelo or satriani. best case scenario they know satch from guitar hero.


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post Nov 28 2010, 06:32 PM
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I was in the similar place as you some years ago. I was deciding wetter I would work for IT company (and one of the best here in the country), as a coder, or to play guitar. Everybody thought I was crazy for choosing guitar, but I'm so glad I'm doing something I love smile.gif


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post Nov 28 2010, 07:13 PM
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Good choice biggrin.gif


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post Nov 29 2010, 05:17 AM
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Thumbs up Ivan. Is it just coincidence that most guitar players are computer savvy? smile.gif


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I wish I could afford quitting my job, and fully concentrate on music smile.gif

If you have the drive, and you can afford to do it you should at least seriously consider it.
BUT do think it through before you make the step, it's a big sacrifice smile.gif
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post Dec 5 2010, 04:09 AM
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If you can afford it and you feel confident that you will be able to dedicate that much time to your playing each day, then i say go for it.
Life is too short to not take chances, especially when it comes to your dreams.
Best of luck mate! smile.gif

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QUOTE (Kael @ Dec 5 2010, 03:09 AM) *
If you can afford it and you feel confident that you will be able to dedicate that much time to your playing each day, then i say go for it.
Life is too short to not take chances, especially when it comes to your dreams.
Best of luck mate! smile.gif



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Happy New Year everybody !

Just want to bring an update to the whole story if you're interested. So, as it was probably obvious that the decision was pretty much taken before I even started the thread, I just want to tell you all that I started implementing it.

So, I talked to the management and told them what are my plans. I will stop working from April and start my journey from then. You may find this funny, (considering also the GMC Funny that I got) but I work for them for 6 years now and we know each other well enough to talk freely about this stuff. They know about this "hobby" of mine because it is not the first time we discussed about future plans, commitment to the IT business etc etc. Anyway, this time they actually encouraged me saying that it is the right decision and they are happy that I finally made up my mind and stopped lying to myself. Didn't see this coming to be honest, but it all good.

So.. Alea iacta est I guess. If nothing (too) unexpected happens, the financial aspects will be covered until April (as presented in the whole thread) and I can start.

Wish me good luck and thanks again for all your advices and encouragements.

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All the best, man! And please keep us updated once you start your journey, I'm sure it will be inspiring to read about it.


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post Jan 3 2011, 08:55 AM
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Yep.. hard work will pay off.. but you will have to go through a LOT of obstacles and hardship. Don't give up. yeah, would love to know how its going...


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good luck! Enjoy the last few months of working at the job smile.gif
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