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Cosmin Lupu
post Sep 22 2011, 10:08 AM
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Ok guys! Since today, we're going to talk about bending, I thought it would be a good thing to know what kind of stuff do you practice to improve your bending and what methods are useful for you?

I'm asking this, because these articulation techniques (bending and vibrato) are not the ones to be practiced like exercises that much wink.gif

Can't wait to talk on all of this tonight! biggrin.gif


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post Sep 22 2011, 11:01 AM
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An interesting topic indeed smile.gif

I agree, there aren't that many bending exercises out there. As for me, I usually just take a solo with lots of good bends and learn it. smile.gif For example I take a Pink Floyd solo and listen and watch Gilmour's playing. It can be another band, as long as the song is slow enough - Satriani's The Forgotten part 1 comes to mind, that one has some good vibrato, and of course, most of Vai's stuff... That's why I struggled so much to achieve good sustain, because I couldn't develop skills much without it smile.gif

The other way I practice it is to download a slow blues backing track and try to work on different bending techniques (1/2 step, whole step, pre-bends) and so on...


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post Sep 22 2011, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE (Dinaga @ Sep 22 2011, 10:01 AM) *
An interesting topic indeed smile.gif

I agree, there aren't that many bending exercises out there. As for me, I usually just take a solo with lots of good bends and learn it. smile.gif For example I take a Pink Floyd solo and listen and watch Gilmour's playing. It can be another band, as long as the song is slow enough - Satriani's The Forgotten part 1 comes to mind, that one has some good vibrato, and of course, most of Vai's stuff... That's why I struggled so much to achieve good sustain, because I couldn't develop skills much without it smile.gif

The other way I practice it is to download a slow blues backing track and try to work on different bending techniques (1/2 step, whole step, pre-bends) and so on...


Alrighty! This sounds very good! I used to do a lot of this stuff through time, but I found out that a lot of challenging bends come from the sounds of other instruments biggrin.gif try this one for instance! It's a killer, but if you master it, it's gonna offer you a control beyond imagination:



Try and emulate the lead lines of the clarinet wink.gif


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post Sep 22 2011, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 22 2011, 10:06 AM) *
Alrighty! This sounds very good! I used to do a lot of this stuff through time, but I found out that a lot of challenging bends come from the sounds of other instruments biggrin.gif try this one for instance! It's a killer, but if you master it, it's gonna offer you a control beyond imagination:



Try and emulate the lead lines of the clarinet wink.gif


Wow, what's this, a Turkish jazz? biggrin.gif It sounds awesome, and these leads are challenging indeed! ohmy.gif
Now you reminded me of one piece, but this one may be classified as shred on nay biggrin.gif However the intro lead would be really interesting to emulate on a guitar...



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post Sep 22 2011, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE (Dinaga @ Sep 22 2011, 10:22 AM) *
Wow, what's this, a Turkish jazz? biggrin.gif It sounds awesome, and these leads are challenging indeed! ohmy.gif
Now you reminded me of one piece, but this one may be classified as shred on nay biggrin.gif However the intro lead would be really interesting to emulate on a guitar...



THANK YOUU biggrin.gif wow this sounds so so so awesome biggrin.gif I love this piece!


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post Sep 22 2011, 12:13 PM
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Great topic Cosmin, and something i feel passionate about. I love a great bending a vibrato technique, its something that i will be studying for a long time..... A great example of where i want to be with this techniques is Gary Moore, Marcus Lavendall, and this is a perfect exam ple for me.....



Thanks to Gabe for sending this to me a wjile ago....


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post Sep 22 2011, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE (JaxN4 @ Sep 22 2011, 11:13 AM) *
Great topic Cosmin, and something i feel passionate about. I love a great bending a vibrato technique, its something that i will be studying for a long time..... A great example of where i want to be with this techniques is Gary Moore, Marcus Lavendall, and this is a perfect exam ple for me.....



Thanks to Gabe for sending this to me a wjile ago....


OH YEAH! biggrin.gif Zakk has always been among my favorites! He has got a super fiery hand!!


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post Sep 22 2011, 03:33 PM
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Uhm...I have never really practiced bends on their own...until I got the feedback of you instructors that my bends are weak...so I am really looking forward to the chat tonight!


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post Sep 22 2011, 03:40 PM
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One of the best advices someone gave me is that THE BEND COMES FROM THE RIST NOT THE FINGERS! that's the key right there


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post Sep 22 2011, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Sep 22 2011, 02:40 PM) *
One of the best advices someone gave me is that THE BEND COMES FROM THE RIST NOT THE FINGERS! that's the key right there


Very good advice...and btw, you Wild Bends lesson is epic! I will be studying that very soon....


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post Sep 22 2011, 04:18 PM
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i use the boring way for practice bends tongue.gif

i trow random notes on Roland Cube Looper, and then try to bend and hit the right pitch from one half/step, Whole step etc.
also been bending like hell on 0'11/0'12 strings, and change back to 0'9 last night and i was like wow : o! i am a beast biggrin.gif

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post Sep 22 2011, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (MonkeyDAthos @ Sep 22 2011, 03:18 PM) *
i use the boring way for practice bends tongue.gif

i trow random notes on Roland Cube Looper, and then try to bend and hit the right pitch from one half/step, Whole step etc.
also been bending like hell on 0'11/0'12 strings, and change back to 0'9 last night and i was like wow : o! i am a beast biggrin.gif


I can say that 0.11's are hurting like hell biggrin.gif I just came back from the rehearsals right now and had a little lick to throw in which involved some bending, on the drop C PRS, brrrr... that kinda hurts sad.gif

QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Sep 22 2011, 02:40 PM) *
One of the best advices someone gave me is that THE BEND COMES FROM THE RIST NOT THE FINGERS! that's the key right there


Yes Daniel! I agree, although, I've seen some folks doing it from the fingers and it didn't sound bad smile.gif it feels queer for me, so I'll stick to the wrist wink.gif

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Sep 22 2011, 02:33 PM) *
Uhm...I have never really practiced bends on their own...until I got the feedback of you instructors that my bends are weak...so I am really looking forward to the chat tonight!


Dude! Articulation is the most important tool a guitarist has smile.gif your level of expression is gauged by the articulation you use in your playing. So get to bending mate!

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post Sep 22 2011, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 22 2011, 05:45 PM) *
I can say that 0.11's are hurting like hell biggrin.gif I just came back from the rehearsals right now and had a little lick to throw in which involved some bending, on the drop C PRS, brrrr... that kinda hurts sad.gif



Well my friend, Son Goku also trained with weights, even on king kai planet!! where the gravity was away tougher than earth wink.gif


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post Sep 22 2011, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE (MonkeyDAthos @ Sep 22 2011, 04:49 PM) *
Well my friend, Son Goku also trained with weights, even on king kai planet!! where the gravity was away tougher than earth wink.gif


Ok, yesterday I pushed 100 kilos (3 reps) at the chest workout on the horizontal press biggrin.gif does that count?


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post Sep 22 2011, 06:01 PM
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you are a bragger, Cosmin! I am still working hard to finally get abs like you...just have to lose like 15 kilos of fat before laugh.gif


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post Sep 22 2011, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Sep 22 2011, 05:01 PM) *
you are a bragger, Cosmin! I am still working hard to finally get abs like you...just have to lose like 15 kilos of fat before laugh.gif


OK! biggrin.gif next Wednesday! I'll film it! and post it biggrin.gif tongue.gif


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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 22 2011, 06:21 PM) *
OK! biggrin.gif next Wednesday! I'll film it! and post it biggrin.gif tongue.gif


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post Sep 23 2011, 12:24 AM
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Don't talk to me about bending..a very long time ago i was playing that legendary ' still got the blues lick'.... smile.gif
I was pretty glad to nail it then..untill my wife told me my bends ware horribly wrong ( she has perfect pitch ears !!)

She probably heared me play it 15 times in a day and couldn't stand it anymore...now she has a lil whip she uses
whenever i bend wrong....that whip laugh.gif did it for me !!



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QUOTE (JaxN4 @ Sep 22 2011, 08:13 AM) *
Great topic Cosmin, and something i feel passionate about. I love a great bending a vibrato technique, its something that i will be studying for a long time..... A great example of where i want to be with this techniques is Gary Moore, Marcus Lavendall, and this is a perfect exam ple for me.....



Thanks to Gabe for sending this to me a wjile ago....



hahah I love this solo!! Zakk wylde's vibrato and bends on this one are so inspiring. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 23 2011, 04:15 AM) *
hahah I love this solo!! Zakk wylde's vibrato and bends on this one are so inspiring. smile.gif



Yea mate I have watched this alot since u sent it to me.....i am working on this technique and will attempt to incorporate it into my playing...thanks again!


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